Re: RE: "Memory issues" on HPUX --- docs on MetaLink
Hmm.. I was able to download the file at both my employer's Intranet and my Singnet broadband account till last night. Apparently, Tripod discourages file downloads from user's home pages. Those who would like the file, please send me a seperate email and I will send the file across. Hemant - Forwarded message from Cyril Thankappan Date: 12 Dec 2002 01:35:16 - Reply-To: Cyril Thankappan Subject: Re: RE: "Memory issues" on HPUX --- docs on MetaLink To: Hemant K Chitale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi I get the error "This file is hosted by Tripod, a Lycos®Network Site, and is not available for download. Please check out Tripod's Help system for more information about Remote Loading and our Remote Loading policy. " When I try to download the zip file... Kindly advise Cyril On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 Hemant K Chitale wrote : > >In my emails of the last two days I had mentioned that I had >compiled a >list of docs on Metalink. > >If you'd like to see the docs, I've placed them at >http://hkchital.tripod.com/HPUX_Notes_from_Oracle.zip > >Hemant K Chitale >My web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com > > >-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- Author: Hemant K Chitale > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 >http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting >services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail >message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and >in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You >may >also send the HELP command for other information (like >subscribing). > - End forwarded message - Hemant K Chitale http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: hkchital INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: "Memory issues" on HPUX --- docs on MetaLink
In my emails of the last two days I had mentioned that I had compiled a list of docs on Metalink. If you'd like to see the docs, I've placed them at http://hkchital.tripod.com/HPUX_Notes_from_Oracle.zip Hemant K Chitale My web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hemant K Chitale INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: "Memory issues" on HPUX
Solaris' kernel parameters are a lot simpler that HP's. Practically all of Solaris' parameters are dynamic, whereas on HP, you need to do a fair bit of tweaking. A good example is the need to allocate memory available to Oracle, so you can size the SGA accordingly. Chances are, you will need several goes at it before arriving at an optimal configuration. With demand paging on Solaris, the kernel shuffles resources (especially memory) around as required. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/02 04:19a.m. >>> It is true that you need to check your kernel parameters before installing and creating databases. Read the readme's and install docs completely first. Also as you have done search metalink for installation on HUPX 64 bit. Once the parameters are set, installation and db creation goes along quite smoothly. However, this advise goes for any platform (HP, IBM, Sun, NT, Linux). Rodd On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 08:41, Hemant K Chitale wrote: > Rodd, > > Yes, we do suspect that the vendors are trying to "convince" us to go > for Solaris. > I have compiled a list of docs I could find on MetaLink. Some of them do > seem to indicate that we need to be careful setting the kernel parameters > (e.g. total max SGA size limited to 1.7G on 32-bit, unless using something > called "memory windows", nfile parameter must be set properly etc). > I also did a search for "%memory%" in the Patch Download patch and found a > few hits and will > follow up on those as well. > > Hemant > > At 06:25 AM 10-12-02 -0800, you wrote: > >We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here. Quite frankly the HP systems > >give us less problems that the Sun systems. What you are getting > >from the vendors is exactly what you called it "FUD". > > > >Rodd Holman > > > >On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote: > > > We are considering implementing a number of new products > > > on HPUX. [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes > > > but are now looking at HPUX for new applications]. > > > The choice is between HPUX and Solaris. > > > > > > The products will include > > > Oracle8i 8.1.7 > > > Oracle9i 9.2.0 > > > Oracle9iRAC > > > Documentum > > > Plumtree > > > > > > Some of our vendors have put in a "FUD" factor -- > > > "there are memory issues running on HPUX", without > > > giving us any specifics. > > > > > > Are there any well-known "Memory issues" / "Memory leaks" > > > running Oracle on HPUX ? > > > > > > Hemant K Chitale > > > http://hkchital.tripod.com > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Rodd Holman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > >- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > Hemant K Chitale > My web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Binley Lim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: "Memory issues" on HPUX
We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here. Quite frankly the HP systems give us less problems that the Sun systems. What you are getting from the vendors is exactly what you called it "FUD". Rodd Holman On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote: > We are considering implementing a number of new products > on HPUX. [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes > but are now looking at HPUX for new applications]. > The choice is between HPUX and Solaris. > > The products will include > Oracle8i 8.1.7 > Oracle9i 9.2.0 > Oracle9iRAC > Documentum > Plumtree > > Some of our vendors have put in a "FUD" factor -- > "there are memory issues running on HPUX", without > giving us any specifics. > > Are there any well-known "Memory issues" / "Memory leaks" > running Oracle on HPUX ? > > Hemant K Chitale > http://hkchital.tripod.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: "Memory issues" on HPUX
It is true that you need to check your kernel parameters before installing and creating databases. Read the readme's and install docs completely first. Also as you have done search metalink for installation on HUPX 64 bit. Once the parameters are set, installation and db creation goes along quite smoothly. However, this advise goes for any platform (HP, IBM, Sun, NT, Linux). Rodd On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 08:41, Hemant K Chitale wrote: > Rodd, > > Yes, we do suspect that the vendors are trying to "convince" us to go > for Solaris. > I have compiled a list of docs I could find on MetaLink. Some of them do > seem to indicate that we need to be careful setting the kernel parameters > (e.g. total max SGA size limited to 1.7G on 32-bit, unless using something > called "memory windows", nfile parameter must be set properly etc). > I also did a search for "%memory%" in the Patch Download patch and found a > few hits and will > follow up on those as well. > > Hemant > > At 06:25 AM 10-12-02 -0800, you wrote: > >We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here. Quite frankly the HP systems > >give us less problems that the Sun systems. What you are getting > >from the vendors is exactly what you called it "FUD". > > > >Rodd Holman > > > >On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote: > > > We are considering implementing a number of new products > > > on HPUX. [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes > > > but are now looking at HPUX for new applications]. > > > The choice is between HPUX and Solaris. > > > > > > The products will include > > > Oracle8i 8.1.7 > > > Oracle9i 9.2.0 > > > Oracle9iRAC > > > Documentum > > > Plumtree > > > > > > Some of our vendors have put in a "FUD" factor -- > > > "there are memory issues running on HPUX", without > > > giving us any specifics. > > > > > > Are there any well-known "Memory issues" / "Memory leaks" > > > running Oracle on HPUX ? > > > > > > Hemant K Chitale > > > http://hkchital.tripod.com > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Rodd Holman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > >- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > Hemant K Chitale > My web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:"Memory issues" on HPUX
We've used HP-UX for the last 10 years from 8.0 to 11i and Oracle 6.0 to 8.1.7.4 and soon 9.2. Our servers run 24x7x52 except when Mass electric has a OH HECK. No problems encountered with the basic UNIX kernel, although setting the initial memory parameters in the kernel does take an experienced person to do. The boilerplates that HP provides are pretty good, but do need some tweaking, like maxproc, and max memory per process (can't remember the parameter). Once set up they're kind of like large boulders in the computer room. They just sit there and do their jobs, reliably. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: hkchital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 12/9/2002 10:08 PM We are considering implementing a number of new products on HPUX. [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes but are now looking at HPUX for new applications]. The choice is between HPUX and Solaris. The products will include Oracle8i 8.1.7 Oracle9i 9.2.0 Oracle9iRAC Documentum Plumtree Some of our vendors have put in a "FUD" factor -- "there are memory issues running on HPUX", without giving us any specifics. Are there any well-known "Memory issues" / "Memory leaks" running Oracle on HPUX ? Hemant K Chitale http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: hkchital INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: "Memory issues" on HPUX
They may be talking about large SGA support & 32-bit applications on HP-UX and 'memory windows'. Check Note # 77310.1 on Metalink. Also check HP docs (http://docs.hp.com). There is a White Paper on this topic. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are considering implementing a number of new products on HPUX. [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes but are now looking at HPUX for new applications]. The choice is between HPUX and Solaris. The products will include Oracle8i 8.1.7 Oracle9i 9.2.0 Oracle9iRAC Documentum Plumtree Some of our vendors have put in a "FUD" factor -- "there are memory issues running on HPUX", without giving us any specifics. Are there any well-known "Memory issues" / "Memory leaks" running Oracle on HPUX ? Hemant K Chitale http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: hkchital INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
