Re: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-30 Thread bill thater

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>Well, since sed was in use while BG was still in high school...
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and edlin looked an lot like UNIX ed.


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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-30 Thread אדר יחיאל

The 640K memory limit.

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> Okay ...
> 
> does anyone know what are Microsoft's own inventions?
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> FYI,
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23852.html
> 
> They seem to have decided that iFS is not a bad idea, and they will
> integrate it into their future OS.
> 
> Same strategy as for Novell's NDS and the Windows Active Directory in
> Windows2000.
> 
> A Netscape equivalent into Windows95.
> 
> OS/2 HPFS which was ported as NT's NTFS.
> 
> On and on I suppose, if the strategy works, why not continue.
> 
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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste <-- Attachment

2002-01-30 Thread nlzanen1


Hi

Sorry Kevin missed your post


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Hi,

I'm surprised nobody came up with this.

Microsoft is famous the world over for their Blue Screens of Death and even
have their own acronym BSD. I have not yet encountered these in any other
O/S.


Jack




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Okay ...

does anyone know what are Microsoft's own inventions?

Raj
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FYI,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23852.html

They seem to have decided that iFS is not a bad idea, and they will
integrate it into their future OS.

Same strategy as for Novell's NDS and the Windows Active Directory in
Windows2000.

A Netscape equivalent into Windows95.

OS/2 HPFS which was ported as NT's NTFS.

On and on I suppose, if the strategy works, why not continue.

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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste <-- Attachment

2002-01-30 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,

I'm surprised nobody came up with this.

Microsoft is famous the world over for their Blue Screens of Death and even
have their own acronym BSD. I have not yet encountered these in any other
O/S.


Jack




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Okay ...

does anyone know what are Microsoft's own inventions?

Raj
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FYI,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23852.html

They seem to have decided that iFS is not a bad idea, and they will
integrate it into their future OS.

Same strategy as for Novell's NDS and the Windows Active Directory in
Windows2000.

A Netscape equivalent into Windows95.

OS/2 HPFS which was ported as NT's NTFS.

On and on I suppose, if the strategy works, why not continue.

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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Paul Baumgartel

I nominate Bambi as the best and wittiest writer on this list.

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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread John Kanagaraj

ROTFL!!

> Of course, back in my day, we had 1s and 0s, and we ate mice 
> if we could
> catch them.  That's why mice have strings attached to them.  
> They look like
> cables, but actually they're just wires holding the mice in 
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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Bellows, Bambi

WARNING!  POSSIBLE REPOST!  WARNING!  POSSIBLE REPOST!  WARNING!

Folks --

This bounced back to me... so you may have gotten it twice.  If you did,
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YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!  


Maks --

They are different.  Edlin was a line editor that showed the screen.  In
that, it was in the same family as many of the older editors from the era of
the switchover from linewriters (e.g., DECWriters) to terminals (e.g.,
tvi912c, vt52, beehive, etc).  Various operating systems had written
bastardized editors which attempted to make use of the advantages screens
provide (paging up and down) while simultaneously giving the advantages of
the old line editors.  Many [dead] operating systems used modes (e.g.,
Vulcan), others transitioned slowly to screen-based editors (e.g., vi, TPU).

Now, DOS, being originally QDOS (Quick-and-dirty Operating System) was a
huge rip-off of early VMS (v4) and BSD Unix.  Edlin was a screen based line
editor where you could *see* things in lines other than the one you were
working on, but couldn't really do anything with them.  In this, it most
closely resembles ed of the currently extant Unix editors.  sed, is and
always has been, a stream editor.  It takes as input a number of characters,
processes them, and then produces a number of characters as output.  Yes,
sed commands can be used within vi, as ed commands can, but sed as a stand
alone tool has nothing whatsoever to do with edlin.  As for timeframes, I
believe sed predates edlin by a hair, although it is newer technology.

Of course, back in my day, we had 1s and 0s, and we ate mice if we could
catch them.  That's why mice have strings attached to them.  They look like
cables, but actually they're just wires holding the mice in place in case
there's ever a techfamine like in the old days.  A lot of mice came over
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story for another day.

Oh, yes, back in the old days, shift-6 was a cents key.  It was easier
putting in your $0.02.  

HTH,
Bambi.

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Well, since sed was in use while BG was still in high school...

Jared

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Re: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Peter . McLarty

which makes ed the original so I suppose MS certainly didn't invent or 
innovate this


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Well, since sed was in use while BG was still in high school...

Jared

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> >
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Re: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

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Well, since sed was in use while BG was still in high school...

Jared

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>
> Maks.
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> >
> > I think they wrote edlin, but that was years ago.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Patrice Boivin
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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Kline

I thought edlin was sort of a copy of "sed"... Which came first?

Maks.

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> I think they wrote edlin, but that was years ago.
> 
> 
> Regards,
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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I think they wrote edlin, but that was years ago.


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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Kevin Lange

1. The bug .
2. The Blue Screen 
3. The Regular Maintenance Release 

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>does anyone know what are Microsoft's own inventions?
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they have inventions?  


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Re: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

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RE: Microsoft plans to bundle iFS copycat into it operating syste

2002-01-29 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Okay ...

does anyone know what are Microsoft's own inventions?

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FYI,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23852.html

They seem to have decided that iFS is not a bad idea, and they will
integrate it into their future OS.

Same strategy as for Novell's NDS and the Windows Active Directory in
Windows2000.

A Netscape equivalent into Windows95.

OS/2 HPFS which was ported as NT's NTFS.

On and on I suppose, if the strategy works, why not continue.

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Patrice Boivin
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