RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
LOL I thought that.. And a town it most definitely is *not*.. :) -Original Message- Lee - lerobe Sent: 16 August 2002 18:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, thats a new one on me London - beautiful ??? -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 16:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can walk in the first accounting firm and ask them to set up a limited company for you. costs around $350. As far as I can remember (1996.) the best jobs available were in the telco country, around Bishopsgate/ London Bridge/ Broadgate Center area and they used to work with a few body shops. One that I have decent experience with was called Oric. Things have probably changed since then. Other then that, London is beautiful town, even if they are driving on the wrong side of the road. One last thing: do you know what is the difference between an Aussie and a 747? It is that 747 stops whining at Heathrow. -Original Message- From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like? Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
It works both ways. My english agent phoned me and told me she was heading out to Oz for a couple of years. She was taking her motor scooter because she intended going around the continent scooting from village to village... I have visions of skeletal remains next to a scooter just outside Eucla underneath the Next Petrol: 500km sign. :-) Cnonor --- Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL I thought that.. And a town it most definitely is *not*.. :) -Original Message- Lee - lerobe Sent: 16 August 2002 18:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, thats a new one on me London - beautiful ??? -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 16:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can walk in the first accounting firm and ask them to set up a limited company for you. costs around $350. As far as I can remember (1996.) the best jobs available were in the telco country, around Bishopsgate/ London Bridge/ Broadgate Center area and they used to work with a few body shops. One that I have decent experience with was called Oric. Things have probably changed since then. Other then that, London is beautiful town, even if they are driving on the wrong side of the road. One last thing: do you know what is the difference between an Aussie and a 747? It is that 747 stops whining at Heathrow. -Original Message- From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like? Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John Thanks to everyone for the feedback - very useful. John, Sydney's pretty quiet right now - I've got friends on both sides; contractors and recruiters - and they are all feeling the pinch. As it stands, it looks like I'll be getting a permanent position wearing my jack-of-all-dbs, master-of-none hat in the M4 corridor - but all of the contracting info that's been provided will certainly help when I take the plunge. Hope to see some of you over there - you can spot me by the IV drip filled with coffee :-) Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Not much going on over here mate. From what I know its a combination of that which you mentioned. Rates are v.low at the moment and we have laid off quite a few recently. John Hallas on the list is your man. I believe he is in the contractor arena. Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). * The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England Number : 3295699. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bishop Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Apologies, didn't actually answer your original questions :- what structure most contractors are employed under. Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, Most run their own limited companies as directors and use a mixture of wages, dividends and expenses. Some contractors use umbrella companies which usually charge anywhere between 4-10% of invoices as charges and offer varying levels of expense allowment etc... Over here you HAVE to work through a limited company of some sort which eliminates the sole-trader aspect - it can be yours or someone else's limited company. There seems to be more permanent DBA work here at the moment - have you considered that? Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England Number : 3295699. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
yup .. and me too. It's very slow here. Certainly for DBAs. The PCG site (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) has good information on the implications of IR35. regards, Mike Hately Oracle DBA -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:53 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Not much going on over here mate. From what I know its a combination of that which you mentioned. Rates are v.low at the moment and we have laid off quite a few recently. John Hallas on the list is your man. I believe he is in the contractor arena. Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) This email and any attached to it are confidential and intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please let us know by telephoning or emailing the sender. You should also delete the email and any attachment from your systems and should not copy the email or any attachment or disclose their content to any other person or entity. The views expressed here are not necessarily those of Churchill Insurance Group plc or its affiliates or subsidiaries. Thank you. Churchill Insurance Group plc. Company Registration Number - 2280426. England. Registered Office: Churchill Court, Westmoreland Road, Bromley, Kent BR1 1DP. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately Mike INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England Number : 3295699. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bishop Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing:
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
That's funny - I'm moving to New Zealand in the next couple of years! The way things are going here it'll be sooner rather than later! ;-( Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 12:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for
Re: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Talking about NZ, how are things there? Does anyone know the current state of the economy and the prospects there? With Warm Regards, Manav. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:48 AM That's funny - I'm moving to New Zealand in the next couple of years! The way things are going here it'll be sooner rather than later! ;-( Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 12:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Having looked into it and spoken to some agencies it appears the same as pretty much everywhere else - quiet. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 14:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Talking about NZ, how are things there? Does anyone know the current state of the economy and the prospects there? With Warm Regards, Manav. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:48 AM That's funny - I'm moving to New Zealand in the next couple of years! The way things are going here it'll be sooner rather than later! ;-( Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 12:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Hmm.. Im going to Australia too and am both British/Australian so no worries there, I will be taking a retirement job when I hit mid 30's.. Right now im working Europe for the cash ;-) Interesting enough, I hear the money is in china at the moment, 18month - 5year contracts on 12k US$ per week. -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 13:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That's funny - I'm moving to New Zealand in the next couple of years! The way things are going here it'll be sooner rather than later! ;-( Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 12:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
You can walk in the first accounting firm and ask them to set up a limited company for you. costs around $350. As far as I can remember (1996.) the best jobs available were in the telco country, around Bishopsgate/ London Bridge/ Broadgate Center area and they used to work with a few body shops. One that I have decent experience with was called Oric. Things have probably changed since then. Other then that, London is beautiful town, even if they are driving on the wrong side of the road. One last thing: do you know what is the difference between an Aussie and a 747? It is that 747 stops whining at Heathrow. -Original Message- From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like? Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Yes, There aren't many positions cropping up! Check www.jobserve.co.uk I now have a permanent job after my contract was not renewed last month. I didn't consider it a preference but under the circumstances it's a whole lot better than nothing. Best wishes to those contracting and good luck to anyone in-between jobs. Good Luck Fuzzy! Mike Jenner Database Administrator -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 15:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Having looked into it and spoken to some agencies it appears the same as pretty much everywhere else - quiet. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 14:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Talking about NZ, how are things there? Does anyone know the current state of the economy and the prospects there? With Warm Regards, Manav. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:48 AM That's funny - I'm moving to New Zealand in the next couple of years! The way things are going here it'll be sooner rather than later! ;-( Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 12:13 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
Well, thats a new one on me London - beautiful ??? -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 16:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can walk in the first accounting firm and ask them to set up a limited company for you. costs around $350. As far as I can remember (1996.) the best jobs available were in the telco country, around Bishopsgate/ London Bridge/ Broadgate Center area and they used to work with a few body shops. One that I have decent experience with was called Oric. Things have probably changed since then. Other then that, London is beautiful town, even if they are driving on the wrong side of the road. One last thing: do you know what is the difference between an Aussie and a 747? It is that 747 stops whining at Heathrow. -Original Message- From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like? Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?
John, The contracting market here in Sydney is really slow as well. The rates have dropped substantially. There are just a few permanent Oracle DBA jobs but they don't pay that well. Lots of them ask for very specific skills. I guess it is the employers market right now to get the best for less. I noticed a few more SQL Server jobs recently. Check out www.seek.com.au www.mycareer.com.au www.jobnet.com.au www.monster.com.au www.careerone.com.au Regards Suhen Grant, I agree with Lewis, things are tight here. Very hard to find work and you have to compete hard on rate to have a chance. You have to work as a ltd company - does not cost much to set up , or use an umbrella company. I would recommend joing the Professional Contractors Group (http://www.pcgroup.org.uk/) if you are considering contracting. The insurance is worthwhile but the discussion forums (general, ir35 matters, technical, commercial, accounting) etc can be very useful. Conversely I am thinking about Australia (Sydney) long-term - why are you leaving there and coming to sunny England? John -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 09:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Grant, Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are from IT. Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well as quite a bit on mainland Europe. If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself. Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS - Oracle OCP Database Consultant Phone - 020 8298 3418 Mobile - 07950 380857 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 16 August 2002 08:48 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Very sorry about OT post - please feel free to flame/respond to me personally. I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are employed under. I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the alienation of income rule here is Aus). Do people work as sole traders, set up their own plc, work for a body shop, or some combination of the above? Apologies again for the bandwidth consumption. Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Woo Hoo! - H. Simpson -- The contents of this post are my opinions only If swallowed seek medical advice (Apologies for the excess signature) This email message (and attachments) may contain information confidential to TOWER Software. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or message attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email immediately and delete all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of TOWER Software, are not given or endorsed by it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England
