RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Naveen Nahata



Are 
you using the Oracle Agent to backup the DB files or you are just using the open 
file option?
 
Regards
Naveen
-Original Message-From: Arun Chakrapanirao 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:44 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Need 
help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 

  
  Hi,
  We are facing problems during 
  veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing saying the log file 
  is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody 
  faced this probs and if so can you please let me 
  know how to solve this issue.
  I cannot bring this down during 
  backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
  So please let me know if any one 
  of you have found a solution to this 
  issue.
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  arun


RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Arun Chakrapanirao









No they are just using the open file
option is there any other oracle agent apart from the oracle intelligent agent
which you are talking about, Please let me know

Thanks

 

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anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 

 



Are you using the Oracle
Agent to backup the DB files or you are just using the open file option?





 





Regards





Naveen





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From: Arun Chakrapanirao
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Subject: Need help from anybody
using veritas netbackup on Nt 





Hi,

We are facing problems during
veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing
saying the log file is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody faced
this probs and if so can you please let me know how to solve this issue.

I cannot bring this down during
backup cause this is a 24x7 database.

So please let me know if any one of
you have found a solution to this issue.

Thanks in advance.

arun










RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Rachel Carmichael

netbackup has an Oracle agent that should be installed as part of the
netbackup installation.

I know they had installed it for the Unix servers when I was there.

Rachel

--- Arun Chakrapanirao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No they are just using the open file option is there any other oracle
> agent
> apart from the oracle intelligent agent which you are talking about,
> Please
> let me know
> Thanks
>  
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>  
> Are you using the Oracle Agent to backup the DB files or you are just
> using
> the open file option?
>  
> Regards
> Naveen
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Hi,
> We are facing problems during veritas net backup of oracle database
> on Nt,
> The database comes down crashing saying the log file is locked, How
> can we
> solve this probs, has anybody faced this probs and if so can you
> please let
> me know how to solve this issue.
> I cannot bring this down during backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
> So please let me know if any one of you have found a solution to this
> issue.
> Thanks in advance.
> arun
> 


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RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom



We use backupexec and it has an oracle agent.  Maybe need something 
similar for netbackup.
 
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Transit Authority1240 W. 6th StreetCleveland, Ohio 44113(216) 
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>>>





No they are just using 
the open file option is there any other oracle agent apart from the oracle 
intelligent agent which you are talking about, Please let me 
know
Thanks
 
-Original 
Message-From: Naveen 
Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 
2002 8:59 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Need help 
from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
 

Are you 
using the Oracle Agent to backup the DB files or you are just using the open 
file option?

 

Regards

Naveen

-Original 
Message-From: Arun 
Chakrapanirao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 
2002 5:44 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Need help 
from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 

  Hi,
  We are facing problems during 
  veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing 
  saying the log file is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody faced 
  this probs and if so can you please let me know how to solve this 
  issue.
  I cannot bring this down during 
  backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
  So please let me know if any one 
  of you have found a solution to this issue.
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  arun


RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Naveen Nahata



Veritas comes with Oracle Agent, which you can use to take the backup of 
ur DB while it is running. Oracle agent puts each tablespace in hot backup mode 
and then copies the DataFiles.
 
Configure the backup using Oracle Agent rather than open-file option 
which uses the O/S level backup.
 
Regards
Naveen

  -Original Message-From: Arun Chakrapanirao 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 
  7:39 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
  
  No they are just 
  using the open file option is there any other oracle agent apart from the 
  oracle intelligent agent which you are talking about, Please let me 
  know
  Thanks
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Naveen 
  Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 
  2002 8:59 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Need 
  help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
   
  
  Are you 
  using the Oracle Agent to backup the DB files or you are just using the open 
  file option?
  
   
  
  Regards
  
  Naveen
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Arun 
  Chakrapanirao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 
  2002 5:44 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Need help 
  from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
  
Hi,
We are facing problems during 
veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down 
crashing saying the log file is locked, How can we solve this probs, has 
anybody faced this probs and if so can you please let me know how to solve 
this issue.
I cannot bring this down during 
backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
So please let me know if any one 
of you have found a solution to this issue.
Thanks in 
advance.
arun


RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Brian McGraw








Arun –

 

I’m using RMAN with NetBackup on
Solaris without any issues.  What is the exact error message that you’re
getting?  I’m assuming that it’s showing up in the Alert Log,
and not the NetBackup logs.

 

It might be best if you provide the
scripts you’re using to facilitate the backup.  It honestly sounds
like you’re trying to do a cold backup while the database is still up,
but that’s just a guess.

 

Brian

 



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Subject: Need help from anybody
using veritas netbackup on Nt

 

Hi,

We are facing problems during
veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing
saying the log file is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody faced
this probs and if so can you please let me know how to solve this issue.

I cannot bring this down during
backup cause this is a 24x7 database.

So please let me know if any one of
you have found a solution to this issue.

Thanks in advance.

arun








RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Boivin, Patrice J



Do you 
have the Veritas Agent for Oracle installed?  That lets you do Oracle 
backups while the database is up.
 
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  -Original Message-From: Arun Chakrapanirao 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 
  9:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
  
  Hi,
  We are facing problems during 
  veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing saying the log file 
  is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody 
  faced this probs and if so can you please let me 
  know how to solve this issue.
  I cannot bring this down during 
  backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
  So please let me know if any one 
  of you have found a solution to this 
  issue.
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  arun


RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Ron Rogers

Arun,
 We use Veritas Netbackup to backup the database. IT LIES when is says
that it is backing it up without a lock. Work with your vendor to get it
straightened out if you can.
The Oracle agent will effectivly perform the "hot" backups and work
with netbackup to copy the datafiles that are in the hot backup mode.
 We perform cold backups each night but if the backup has not completed
on the database server when it is restarted AND netbackup performs a
backup of a datafile that the database wants to use the netbackup has it
locked and the database will take it offline. Datafile recovery is then
needed to get the database working again.
There should have been an Oralce Agent purchased for the server to
allow the hot backup the function. Read the manual and setup procedures
completely. We could'nt get it to work on a hybrid NT, Novell network.
Ron
ROR mª¿ªm

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netbackup has an Oracle agent that should be installed as part of the
netbackup installation.

I know they had installed it for the Unix servers when I was there.

Rachel

--- Arun Chakrapanirao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No they are just using the open file option is there any other
oracle
> agent
> apart from the oracle intelligent agent which you are talking about,
> Please
> let me know
> Thanks
>  
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>  
> Are you using the Oracle Agent to backup the DB files or you are
just
> using
> the open file option?
>  
> Regards
> Naveen
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Hi,
> We are facing problems during veritas net backup of oracle database
> on Nt,
> The database comes down crashing saying the log file is locked, How
> can we
> solve this probs, has anybody faced this probs and if so can you
> please let
> me know how to solve this issue.
> I cannot bring this down during backup cause this is a 24x7
database.
> So please let me know if any one of you have found a solution to
this
> issue.
> Thanks in advance.
> arun
> 


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RE: Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt

2002-10-16 Thread Stephen Lee



If the NT admins 
are backing up up your data files, there is a high probability that your files 
are getting locked by that.  You must tell the admins not to backup any 
file system ... er "folder" ... that contains files used by the Oracle 
instance.  In other words, your problem might have nothing to do with your 
backup stuff, but somebody else's backup stuff.
 
You must 
understand that NT is still a single-user operating system.  It doesn't 
understand the concept of having multiple users doing their own thing, in their 
own slice of turf, on the box.  If it wants to lock a file, it will do 
so assuming that, since it wants to use the file, nobody else needs to use 
it.
 
Which is why we 
moved all of our Oracle databases off NT.
 
NT = Neanderthal 
Technology
 

  -Original Message-From: Arun Chakrapanirao 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 
  7:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Need help from anybody using veritas netbackup on Nt 
  
  Hi,
  We are facing problems during 
  veritas net backup of oracle database on Nt, The database comes down crashing saying the log file 
  is locked, How can we solve this probs, has anybody 
  faced this probs and if so can you please let me 
  know how to solve this issue.
  I cannot bring this down during 
  backup cause this is a 24x7 database.
  So please let me know if any one 
  of you have found a solution to this 
  issue.
  Thanks in 
  advance.
  arun