RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I used to have a Spectrum +2? One of the little keyboards with rubber keys and a tape drive! Still have it in the loft at my parents with all the original games too! Damn how I used to love sitting in front of a screen blinking red/blue/green colours at me, screaming like a drowning cat while it was loading. I must dig that out for a nostalgia trip! LOL.. Although I am more of a die hard fan of high tech games though!! Quake, Half Life (Counterstrike).. Mark -Original Message- Brian Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:24 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've got my Commodore 64. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I have a copy of PC Magazine volume 1, number 1 in my bookcase at home. The only thing is we cut out a coupon that was on the inside of the back cover, so there is a corner missing. The one will all those wooden puppets standing on the computer, and Charlie Chaplin. I remember standing at CompuCentre and the sales person telling me assembly language for the IBM PC was going to be really tough because of "shadowed" memory -- I think she meant segmented memory... Pat. -Original Message- From: Eric D. Pierce [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again One of the RD guys says he has a prett good collection of this kind of early stuff from the PC industry, he says that there aren't much of any good museums of PC technology (yet). At least for historical interest reasons, it might be worth holding onto, especially if you have something that is rare, or otherwise a bit out of the mainstream. regards, ep -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
There is still have at least one Sinclair gas station left. It's near the intersection of Interstate 90 and U.S. Highway 151 in Madison Wisconsin. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought it was a green dinosaur on their signs, maybe they were just faded. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I thought it was an old oil company. Their gas station symbol was a dinosaur (not to be confused with "put a tiger in your tank"). I vaguely recall the Sinclair exhibit at the 1967 World's Fair, and I still have a blue plastic model of one of their dinosaurs. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Schilling, Ben INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Ben, I can vouch for that one - I gassed up there last Saturday while driving from New Jersey to Minneapolis ( a loong drive) stayed overnight in Madison , a very nice town. Went into a little brewpub near the capitol, E Wilson street ?? - i forget Brian "Schilling, Ben" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/05/2001 09:35:27 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: There is still have at least one Sinclair gas station left. It's near the intersection of Interstate 90 and U.S. Highway 151 in Madison Wisconsin. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought it was a green dinosaur on their signs, maybe they were just faded. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I thought it was an old oil company. Their gas station symbol was a dinosaur (not to be confused with "put a tiger in your tank"). I vaguely recall the Sinclair exhibit at the 1967 World's Fair, and I still have a blue plastic model of one of their dinosaurs. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Schilling, Ben INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Sweet Minneapolis! i did that drive once when I moved back to Jersey. Whoa what a drive!! -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ben, I can vouch for that one - I gassed up there last Saturday while driving from New Jersey to Minneapolis ( a loong drive) stayed overnight in Madison , a very nice town. Went into a little brewpub near the capitol, E Wilson street ?? - i forget Brian "Schilling, Ben" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/05/2001 09:35:27 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: There is still have at least one Sinclair gas station left. It's near the intersection of Interstate 90 and U.S. Highway 151 in Madison Wisconsin. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought it was a green dinosaur on their signs, maybe they were just faded. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I thought it was an old oil company. Their gas station symbol was a dinosaur (not to be confused with "put a tiger in your tank"). I vaguely recall the Sinclair exhibit at the 1967 World's Fair, and I still have a blue plastic model of one of their dinosaurs. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Schilling, Ben INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Actually, there is more than one. There are at least three in Omaha, NE along. (Maybe more, but I don't drive by any others on a regular basis. Terry "Schilling, Ben" wrote: There is still have at least one Sinclair gas station left. It's near the intersection of Interstate 90 and U.S. Highway 151 in Madison Wisconsin. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought it was a green dinosaur on their signs, maybe they were just faded. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I thought it was an old oil company. Their gas station symbol was a dinosaur (not to be confused with "put a tiger in your tank"). I vaguely recall the Sinclair exhibit at the 1967 World's Fair, and I still have a blue plastic model of one of their dinosaurs. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Schilling, Ben INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Sounds like denial after the fact to me. If you believe these quotes: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/8009/bill.gates.quotes.html it's easy to think he changes his tune allot. -Original Message- Pierce Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L according to the following, the "640k" quote is an urban legend: http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/bill.gates/gates_memory.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: David Messer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
On 5 Apr 2001, at 9:47, David Messer wrote: Sounds like denial after the fact to me. If you believe these quotes: That is certainly a possibility, but not "proven". The site you cite obviously is not a bona fide journalistic/historical/research site, and the content would easily fail any fair standard for objectivity, much less an academic one, for legitimate research presentation/methods. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/8009/bill.gates.quotes.html it's easy to think he changes his tune allot. That is the impression I also get. but that doesn't strictly "disprove" the veracity of the claim on the other site that the "640 k" quote is an urban legend. In addition, it is quite possible that the "640 k" quote, if seen in the larger context of what Gates was talking about at the time, isn't quite as silly as it looks on a surface level, and is probably not much more silly than what most other computer industry "leaders" were saying. when I put "640k gates" ito www.google.com, there were several sites that came up that gave a lot of historical detail, including references to what other people in the early PC industry said, many in the main "hobby" magazines such as Byte/etc about the potential longevity of various architectures and so forth, and there were obviously just as many amateurs trying to pass themselves off as experts in order to make money duping the public as is the case now days. They just had't refined the technique as much. I personally wouldn't want to write off the level of Gates' evil to anything as trivial as the "640 k"quote, it deserves much deeper and more prudent consideration. :) regards, ep -Original Message- Pierce Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L according to the following, the "640k" quote is an urban legend: http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/bill.gates/gates_memory.html ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Title: RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again -Original Message- From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it's easy to think he changes his tune allot. That is the impression I also get. but that doesn't strictly disprove the veracity of the claim on the other site that the 640 k quote is an urban legend. You can say that again about Bill Gates changing his tune a lot! I never got the $1000 he was supposed to send me after I forwarded his e-mail to 1000 people. :(
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
But, Eric, I'm not out to prove anything. I'm only trying to show Gates in the worst light possible. My desire to do so derives from working day in and day out with Microsoft products. Regards, DM -Original Message- Pierce Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On 5 Apr 2001, at 9:47, David Messer wrote: Sounds like denial after the fact to me. If you believe these quotes: That is certainly a possibility, but not "proven". The site you cite obviously is not a bona fide journalistic/historical/research site, and the content would easily fail any fair standard for objectivity, much less an academic one, for legitimate research presentation/methods. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/8009/bill.gates.quotes.html it's easy to think he changes his tune allot. That is the impression I also get. but that doesn't strictly "disprove" the veracity of the claim on the other site that the "640 k" quote is an urban legend. In addition, it is quite possible that the "640 k" quote, if seen in the larger context of what Gates was talking about at the time, isn't quite as silly as it looks on a surface level, and is probably not much more silly than what most other computer industry "leaders" were saying. when I put "640k gates" ito www.google.com, there were several sites that came up that gave a lot of historical detail, including references to what other people in the early PC industry said, many in the main "hobby" magazines such as Byte/etc about the potential longevity of various architectures and so forth, and there were obviously just as many amateurs trying to pass themselves off as experts in order to make money duping the public as is the case now days. They just had't refined the technique as much. I personally wouldn't want to write off the level of Gates' evil to anything as trivial as the "640 k"quote, it deserves much deeper and more prudent consideration. :) regards, ep -Original Message- Pierce Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L according to the following, the "640k" quote is an urban legend: http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/bill.gates/gates_memory.html ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: David Messer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Wow, it was like the Tandy for the UK. I didn't get my first computer until I was like 20 or 21. I am jealous of all of the people who got started early. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I had a Spectrum 48K and the rest of the story is about the same for me. Same downward spiral and all... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
In 1982ish, Dad brought home a used TRS-80 mod III with 16k ram and a tape drive. Started a downward spiral. I tried to get out, no I really did. Got a degree in mathematics instead of CompSci. Joined the Air Force as an aircraft maintenance officer. But alas, it didn't last. I spent my time developing Excel stuff with VBA and a database with Access. I got out and took a job as a Y2K project lead(hated it hated it hated it). Then jumped into Oracle on Unix from DB2 on VMS and am as happy as a clam. Dan - Not quite a DBA. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I had a Spectrum 48K and the rest of the story is about the same for me. Same downward spiral and all... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I've got my Commodore 64. Brian L. Anderson Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT Darton College [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001,Dasko, Dan scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -In 1982ish, Dad brought home a used TRS-80 mod III with 16k ram and a tape all you youngsters! i started programming in 1968 [yes i *am* that old, yes we *did* to have computers back then.;-)] first project was a payroll system on an IBM 360/20 with 4K [yes that's K not M.] of core memory all on cards written in assembler. then i took a step backwards and did some autocoder on an IBM 1440. now if i can just remember why i'm still here and didn't take that job as a javalin catcher.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifieable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Computer programmers do it byte by byte. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Yea I started with the ZX 80, got a kit and built it. My background is on the hardware end of MainFrames, so I borrowed a Logic Analyzer from Work, hooked it up, and scoped all the revelent CPU timings, using memory loops and BIOS calls, what fun that was. Then we got the TIMEX version of the Spectrum with a monitor, but it was such a pain with the Audio tape Input/output. Gave up on it when TIMEX stopped support on it. To this day my roommate will not buy or use another TIMEX product. Got my first IBM PC Compatible in 1984 and haven't looked back. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 16:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author:
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I did get my revenge on TIMEX though, put that Spectrum on eBay last year, and got $150 US for it. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 16:34 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Yea I started with the ZX 80, got a kit and built it. My background is on the hardware end of MainFrames, so I borrowed a Logic Analyzer from Work, hooked it up, and scoped all the revelent CPU timings, using memory loops and BIOS calls, what fun that was. Then we got the TIMEX version of the Spectrum with a monitor, but it was such a pain with the Audio tape Input/output. Gave up on it when TIMEX stopped support on it. To this day my roommate will not buy or use another TIMEX product. Got my first IBM PC Compatible in 1984 and haven't looked back. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 16:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Me too! But I kept comparing the different brands: ZX spectrum, Tandy, Texas Instruments (99/4A), BBC, etc. and ended up buying TX 99/4A b/c it had 32bit Architecture and Graphics CPU (dedicated Graphics Processor). But I could not expand it since it was very expensive for me to buy any of its peripherals. Regards Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
And I thought it was an old oil company. Their gas station symbol was a dinosaur (not to be confused with "put a tiger in your tank"). I vaguely recall the Sinclair exhibit at the 1967 World's Fair, and I still have a blue plastic model of one of their dinosaurs. Henry -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Wasn't there a famous or infamous quote stating 640K should be enough for anyone? -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Well, at the risk of sounding like a weirdo, I consider this a job, not a lifestyle. I didn't get a home computer until I had to have one to log in to work from home. I remember looking at those Sinclairs, couldn't figure out how one of'em could possibly be useful. Bought a new pair of skis instead. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
One of the RD guys says he has a prett good collection of this kind of early stuff from the PC industry, he says that there aren't much of any good museums of PC technology (yet). At least for historical interest reasons, it might be worth holding onto, especially if you have something that is rare, or otherwise a bit out of the mainstream. regards, ep -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
I got a Commodore VIC20. Icky. You could only program in BASIC but you could store stuff on a regular audio cassette tape. You didn't need a monitor because you hooked it up to your TV... however you could probably learn more about computer science by just watching TV. ;-) A year later I went to work for Fujitsu Microelectronics. They somehow thought they could set the standard in this fledgling PC industry. They first started with a Z80 chip and they had a pretty good machine running CPM with a C compiler. (Now CPM was an O/S!) I used that PC to do my homework for my Intro to C Programming night class at the community college. Soon after that came the IBM PC and Fujitsu actually had an early PC clone that ran MS-DOS. Trouble was it wasn't a "compatible" MS-DOS so you couldn't run Lotus 123. But SuperCalc worked OK. Go figure. At the same time one of their largest customers was a small startup company to which they sold gobs of memory chips. It was a huge financial risk but this small startup kept paying on time so they kept shipping them more memory. What was the name of that risky small startup? Oh yeah, it was a weird name... "Compaq." The rest is history. And now you know "the rest of the story." Steve Orr -Original Message- Kenneth R Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I had a Spectrum 48K and the rest of the story is about the same for me. Same downward spiral and all... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sinclair was a brand of personal computers that came out in the UK about 20 years ago, If memory serves , they started of with the ZX 81 which had a whole 1K of memory. Their next offering was the Spectrum 16K followed by the 48K. with rubber keys and programmable in basic. I remember back in the early 80's I got one for my 14th birthday and that set me on the downward spiral to where I am now :-) as a dba they subsequently went bust, and I still have that Spectrum 48K after nearly 20 years. You can get emulaters for it on the PC. Any more spectrum owners out there that want to admit to it ? Brian "Kevin Kostyszyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/04/2001 02:36:02 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: MMmmm TRS-80. what's a Sinclair? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A TRS-80? Why not a Sinclair? : ) -Original Message- From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Metalink Again Suprisingly, I just logged on and it took only a second. Amazing!! They must have gotten that other Tandy computer running again. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is anyone else having problems with Metalink today? Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge Corporation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Orr INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
Yes, it was Bill Gates who said it, long ago. I saw it on one of those "quote of the day" calendars once but can't seem to find it just now. -Original Message- Chris Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wasn't there a famous or infamous quote stating 640K should be enough for anyone? -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: David Messer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
There it is: http://hjones.freeyellow.com/qcompute.htm -Original Message- Chris Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wasn't there a famous or infamous quote stating 640K should be enough for anyone? -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: David Messer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT : Sinclair was RE: Metalink Again
according to the following, the "640k" quote is an urban legend: http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/bill.gates/gates_memory.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
