RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
nah, your wife would get upset. now, if you tempted me with more Friday recipes, that would be a different story :) >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 06:40:26 -0800 > >You trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson? ;0) > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:01 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >baby! :) > > > >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >staff > >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:12:42 -0800 > > > >And I was... > > > >6 > > > >:0) > > > >g > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:39 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Guy Hammond > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Guy Hammond > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
You trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson? ;0) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L baby! :) >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:12:42 -0800 > >And I was... > >6 > >:0) > >g > > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:39 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Guy Hammond > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guy Hammond INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I had filed down their horns at the time... --Scott - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:44 PM > I've met those hellspawn... NOT! > > > >From: Scott Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:11:46 -0800 > > > >Sam age here. Same boat too, but only 2 hellspawn. I > >warned my wife not to breed with me as all the wrong > >(evil) traits would be passed on... > > > >Scott Shafer > >San Antonio, TX > > > > > >--- "HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just turned 30! But my three kids make me feel a > > > LOT older... > > > > > > 61 minutes until Miller Time... > > > > > > __ > > > Jim Hawkins > > > Oracle Database Administrator > > > Data Management Center of Expertise > > > > > > Pharmacia Corporation > > > 800 North Lindbergh Blvd. > > > St. Louis, Missouri 63167 > > > (314) 694-4417 > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:01 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > baby! :) > > > > > > > > > >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness > > > in potential IT staff > > > >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:12:42 -0800 > > > > > > > >And I was... > > > > > > > >6 > > > > > > > >:0) > > > > > > > >g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:39 PM > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > > > >-- > > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > > http://www.orafaq.com > > > >-- > > > >Author: Guy Hammond > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 > > > FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet > > > access / Mailing Lists > > > > > > > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > > > E-Mail message > > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > > 'ListGuru') and in > > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > > ORACLE-L > > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > > from). You may > > > >also send the HELP command for other information > > > (like subscribing). > > > > > > > > > > >_ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > > http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: Rachel Carmichael > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: > > > (858) 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California-- Public Internet > > > access / Mailing Lists > > > > > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > > > E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > > 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > > ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > > from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information > > > (like subscribing). > > > -- > > > Please see the offi
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I had a VIC-20 with a TTY terminal emulator and a 300 buad modem that I used to access IBM mainframes from home (so I wouldn't have to drive 20 miles on a Saturday). The company found out that I was using my own equiptment to access their computers and "loaned" me a TI Silent 700 to use instead. Years later, when I left that company, I tried to give them back the Silent 700. They just laughed and told me to throw it away. "Thater, William" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L rgy.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 05:14 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had ->to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) -> ->and I thought it was the speediest thing ever TI Silent 700s. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Go for it. 30 years from now your graduates will be on this list bragging about how they started and bragging about how thier first server only had 1G of RAM. [EMAIL PROTECTED] tate.fl.us To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff 08/02/2001 06:51 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Sorry for the last email, I didn't mean to send it to the list. If anyone by chance read the whole thing and has any questions, feedback or advice I welcome it all. Again sorry for the long message. Ivan -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
oh yeah. you guys know that they published a book of the Fractured Fairy Tales? Yes, I have it. You had to ask? >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:39:07 -0800 > >And the "Wayback Machine" > > > > "Rachel > Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of >list ORACLE-L > > mail.com>cc: > Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- >suggestions to ensure > root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff > com > > > 08/02/2001 > 02:11 PM > Please > respond to > ORACLE-L > > > > > > >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Intern
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
High School ('70), I took a computer class -- we used a Hewlett Packard 9100B -- it was the size of a typewriter, had a memory that could hold 14x14 instructions. Just enough space to write a tic-tac-toe program. The smallest HP calculator today has infinitely more power that than thing did. But it interested me enough to go into college looking for a degree in Comp Sci. I was in the second class to graduate from City University of NY (Queens College) with a real degree in computer science, class of '75 >From: Scott Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:39:09 -0800 > >Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zero >experience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenance >programming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I worked >blue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined the >USAF and they told me I was a computer programmer... > >Scott Shafer >San Antonio, TX > > >"Page, Bruce" wrote: > > > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to >use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > > frickin clue > > > what any of you are talking about:) > >_ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Scott Shafer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I didn't see my first color tv until 1978, when I bought one as an engagement present for my fiance. I always did wonder what all the fuss was about The Wizard of Oz before that :) >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:39:08 -0800 > > >-Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his > >-boy Sherman? > >On black and white TV!! :( > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:12 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The sad thing is, it really didn't matter back then! Character mode coming back to a orange or green monitor (at least on the Compaq), it didn't do too bad keeping up with typing. Or so it seemed, until the next boost came out then woohoo! look how fast I can go! Now if I'm not on cable or a T1 I want to go spin the hamster's cage Funny thing - I've just started using IM. I don't like it! When we did similar stuff on a VAX in the late 80's it was screaming, even over a 1200 baud modem, compared to the Yahoo IM. I want my VAX back, whine ;-) Linda -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) and I thought it was the speediest thing ever >From: "Seley, Linda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:28:15 -0800 > >One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years >ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we >were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a >1200k modem?) > >Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming >language and APL in the actuarial department. > >Linda > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Seley, Linda > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you w
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
very well carry on:( -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :) >From: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:39 -0800 > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Famous...I hope at least recognized by my deeds. It's funny this is coming up, I am currently in the middle of starting a dream of mine. Basically I am starting a non profit organization designed to teach these hot in demand IT skills to a resource this country has overlooked-young inner city minorities. I know there are people already trying to do similar stuff and oracle has there program they're working on with high schools, but I feel that my business plan and ideas will be superior to what's currently out there, not to mention that I will have an execution plan these kids will latch onto, different from the traditional high school setting they're tired of. I feel that I am an example of what I can do with them, as I said I didn't go to college for CIS, am not a super brain, but I had an interest in computers and also a hunger to make a good living (legally). In the span of three years I have fully changed around my life. I now make good money (I am currently putting my sister through college) and am living a great clean life. Oracle literally kept me out of jail (no need to go into specifics)! I feel this IT route is a new alternative for inner city youth to make it out of the 'hood. This is a more realistic manner to a good life than the traditional routes of making it big in: sports,music,entertainment or going the wrong route and getting into dealing drugs. I am living just as good as most of the drug dealers I know or have come in contact with and being realistic here, these guys are looked up to by the younger kids in the neighborhood. As a kid I always looked up to them and still see the same thing going on today. If I can get these kids to see a different way to attain the same possessions the dealers have (for the most part, that's what it boils down to-money and material objects) and get some in the IT field, I've done my job. I have been teaching the DBA track here at FSU for the last in preparation for the stated above goal and have started to recruit people for the board and also to teach. Today, in fact I received the conformation that I have been given education consent from the New York State Department of Education (yes!), next comes the 501(c) and I'll be quitting my job hoping to get this thing off the ground. In fact Rachel I have had you in mind to ask to join my board but haven't approach or asked the board for input until I was 'official'. Sorry for ranting, any advice (good or bad) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Fractured Fairy Tales and "Mr. Peabody and Sherman" on Bullwinkle. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Lange INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I can't really tell if no more answers are coming in or things are just very slow but I'll try to fill in the answers to my questions that have not been answered. Looks like the questions about the floppy drive (or should I say drives as I had the luxury of dual drives) are the ones that need some answers. The manufacture (now gone) was Micropolis and they later made hard drives that we used on our UNIX boxes when we moved off the main frame about ten years ago. The hard sectored disks had holes to separate the sectors (the holes were much to large to separate tracks). Micropolis used a 16 hard sector floppy and then soft sectored each hard sector into two. They had an ad about never so many tracks that showed railroad tracks. Yes, Logo was based on LISP. It was very bad practice to use loops in APL. They were avoided by using vectors. I calculated some very actuate statistical tables for my husband on a DEC-10 using APL and picking the exact (rather than approximated values) out of the vector in about the time frame that this discussion started with - some time in the early 80s. We also had APL on the CP/M machine (a Vector Graphics if anyone is curious) but it didn't have precision of the DEC-10 and later got a DOS version. I know it was the thing to try to do everything in one line but it was also possible to write readable code (as long as you knew the symbols) and of course there was always the lamp for comments. Speaking of on the CP/M machine and later a DOS version, I would think that the word processor that was being asked about was probably WordStar. We had that one on the CP/M machine (it was considered THE word processor at that time) and then DOS before WordPerfect. Actually had a strange experience installing the DOS version. I can't remember how much memory we had on that machine but it was a lot for it's day and WordStar gave me an error that I had insufficient memory. After checking everything I could think of, I installed a RAM disk to cut the memory down to a size mentioned in the documentation and low and behold the WordStar worked. IBM standard label tapes could actually be cartridges (3480/3490 or are those obsolute now?). The thing about them (besides EBCDIC which no one not on an IBM used) is that they had three files for one logical file. The header and footer(?) contained documention. In addition to the format stuff they could contain: a file name, the operating system under which the file was written, the date, and I think even some sort of machine ID. If the first file, the header also had a volumn ID. I did help to set up a system in perl under AIX that would compare the information in a header with information that we had other places including an Oracle database, did some other things, and put information into the database. It would have been a lot harder without those standard label tapes. Yes, I have used punch cards. The first computer I used was an IBM/1620. My first work with stat packages, SAS, SPSS, BMDP, was on a remote machine where the job was submitted on punch cards and if I remember correctly the jobs were not run when submitted but at a later time so that an out of order card or incorrectly punched one could make things a very slow process. Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->oh yeah. you guys know that they published a book of the Fractured Fairy ->Tales? Yes, I have it. You had to ask? yes and no, i expected it.;-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Intercourse Beats Masturbation -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And this 300/1200 Boud rate modems were without error correction mode resulting lot of garbage in between specially working from subcontinent to dialin in UK or USA machines...Same modems were working well if worked within USA or UKThat was 1990-91 era MOHAMMAD RAFIQ Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:14:57 -0800 Yeah - but then the 1200 baud modems came out - now THOSE were speedy. And after I saw my friend's 1200, my 300 was like molasses. Rachel Carmichael wrote: > heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had > to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) > > and I thought it was the speediest thing ever > > >From: "Seley, Linda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:28:15 -0800 > > > >One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years > >ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we > >were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a > >1200k modem?) > > > >Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming > >language and APL in the actuarial department. > > > >Linda > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and > >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is > >a > >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a > >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the > >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a > >kid > >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, > >but that's about it:) > >kk > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use > >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the > >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My > >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > > frickin clue > > > what any of you are talking about:) > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Seley, Linda > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I know a person in the Cleveland area that has one in his basement that he uses for a print server (and it basically replaced his furnace, too). April Wells wrote: > my last company still used pdp-11s > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than > my ugly metallic Kaypro. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and > such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a > compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a > little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the > bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid > and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, > but that's about it:) > kk > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use > scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the > older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My > computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Norwood Bradly A > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the >intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price >sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the >information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be >illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender >immediately by return e-mail. > > Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any >attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any >damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own >virus checks before opening any attachment. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: April Wells > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be r
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I think that's awesome Ivan!!! KK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Famous...I hope at least recognized by my deeds. It's funny this is coming up, I am currently in the middle of starting a dream of mine. Basically I am starting a non profit organization designed to teach these hot in demand IT skills to a resource this country has overlooked-young inner city minorities. I know there are people already trying to do similar stuff and oracle has there program they're working on with high schools, but I feel that my business plan and ideas will be superior to what's currently out there, not to mention that I will have an execution plan these kids will latch onto, different from the traditional high school setting they're tired of. I feel that I am an example of what I can do with them, as I said I didn't go to college for CIS, am not a super brain, but I had an interest in computers and also a hunger to make a good living (legally). In the span of three years I have fully changed around my life. I now make good money (I am currently putting my sister through college) and am living a great clean life. Oracle literally kept me out of jail (no need to go into specifics)! I feel this IT route is a new alternative for inner city youth to make it out of the 'hood. This is a more realistic manner to a good life than the traditional routes of making it big in: sports,music,entertainment or going the wrong route and getting into dealing drugs. I am living just as good as most of the drug dealers I know or have come in contact with and being realistic here, these guys are looked up to by the younger kids in the neighborhood. As a kid I always looked up to them and still see the same thing going on today. If I can get these kids to see a different way to attain the same possessions the dealers have (for the most part, that's what it boils down to-money and material objects) and get some in the IT field, I've done my job. I have been teaching the DBA track here at FSU for the last in preparation for the stated above goal and have started to recruit people for the board and also to teach. Today, in fact I received the conformation that I have been given education consent from the New York State Department of Education (yes!), next comes the 501(c) and I'll be quitting my job hoping to get this thing off the ground. In fact Rachel I have had you in mind to ask to join my board but haven't approach or asked the board for input until I was 'official'. Sorry for ranting, any advice (good or bad) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Sorry for the last email, I didn't mean to send it to the list. If anyone by chance read the whole thing and has any questions, feedback or advice I welcome it all. Again sorry for the long message. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
-Original Message- > What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Charlie Chaplin, easy one. correct. > Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me. Yes - one with the monochrome screen, one through the CGA Adapter. Ah, high-tech. > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? 0 correct - the OS was on a ROM chip. There may have been some computers which required an OS boot disk, but I didn't know about them. When I realized that the IBM PC was going to require one, I thought: "What a hassle." I liked the Apple IIE way of doing things much better. Except for the tiny screen. Come to think of it, for Apple to now be popular with graphics designers, etc., is quite a reversal. > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. I loved it when they came out with those precise clippers. Correct. We actually used a small nail clipper! Hmmm any chance you can write on the top side of a CD? > How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? Never had one, sorry. The OS was in ROM. They started instantly at the flip of a switch. > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for 10 floppies. I thought it was a great deal!! They were bright pink. I noticed six months ago that the company still exists, I hadn't seen any of their products anywhere in over a decade. > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. Model 60. The PS/2 line died because IBM tried to market the proprietary MicroChannel Architecture. Competitors went around them with EISA. What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? Windows95. Because Microsoft would not release them the source code, so they could build a shell. IBM probably got the right to see the Win3.1 source code because back then OS/2 was a joint project. > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? What is an MWave Windsurfer card? A modem card with integrated answering machine and phone message logging. I don't know if they still make this. Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? I would say Novell, for 3.12. Then they tried to force people to upgrade their certification to 4.01, and suddenly the MCSE became extremely popular. > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? Wooden string puppets. > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? Asteroids, I think. I vaguely remember that it was Biplane and Casino. Asteroids was sold separately. There may have been a third "free" cartridge though. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but not all. I either: 1)never had a memory for anything 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life 3)am not and was not a nerd 4)all of the above I think I'll lurk for awhile >From: Pat Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:10:25 -0800 > >I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic >location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in >high school - my older son was. > >I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make >"telegraphs" out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a >battery, a few nails, a little wire, and a strip of metal cut from a >tin can to practice Morse code (I don't remember any of it now). > >I had to pass a slide rule test in college but in those days so did >everyone else at Harvey Mudd. > >When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer >would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were >computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer >that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. > >In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that >time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the >operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made >a 5 1/4 floppy drive that used a format with 100 tracks per inch (they >actually had more data on a single sided disk than IBM had on their >double sided disk)? What is the difference between hard sectored and >soft sectored floppies? What did the above mentioned drive use? > >Some other questions that come to mind that are not so tied into a >specific machine are: > >What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other >languages use? What was used instead? > >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about >computers? What language was it based on? > >Or how about something from the days of main frame tapes that has come >back to haunt me lately. What is an IBM standard label tape? What >about it might help in identifying what is on the tape and where it >came from? > > > Pat >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Pat Hildebrand > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a frickin clue what any of you are talking about:) KK -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with IBM? Can't remember. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -Original Message- CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Pat Hildebrand scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer ->would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were ->computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer ->that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. i started programming on IBM 1440s and 360/20s. on the 20 you had to dial in the IPL code to get it to read the first card. -> ->In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that ->time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the ->operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] ->What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about ->computers? What language was it based on? LOGO but i don't remember what it's biased on. bit rot.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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> > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > > ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with > ->IBM? Can't remember. > -> > ->Regards, > ->Patrice Boivin > ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > -> > ->-Original Message- > ->CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] > -> > -> > AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and > Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. > > CP/M was the other OS in contention. > And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M. Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil was after us. I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to make putting it back together simpler. When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old days! >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 02:26:10 -0800 > >1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of >weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I >had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch >card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and >rearrange the cards. > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >staff > > >I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer >most of those questions. > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > > >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > > > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in > >the field. > > > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > > > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? > >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? > >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? > >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > > > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > > > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > > > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > > > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > > > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's > >cover? > >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, > >vol > >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > > > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came > >with > >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I > >was > >in grade 11 in 1981. > > > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL >Learning > >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but > >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training > >companies will survive. > > > >Regards, > >Patrice Boivin > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To R
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I thik LOGO was based on LISP. Steve Parker Technical Consultant LIS -- Logistics & Internet Systems Ltd. -- "Thater, William" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT Sent by: staff root@fatcity. com 02/08/2001 13:50 Please respond to ORACLE-L On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Pat Hildebrand scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer ->would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were ->computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer ->that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. i started programming on IBM 1440s and 360/20s. on the 20 you had to dial in the IPL code to get it to read the first card. -> ->In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that ->time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the ->operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] ->What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about ->computers? What language was it based on? LOGO but i don't remember what it's biased on. bit rot.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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"What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead?" A Programming Language. Not sure of the other questions, but I remember learning the greek alphabet when I was using APL. Very powerful vector-oriented language. You could write one-line programs to accept a list of numbers, and spit out the average, mean, stand. dev., max, min and about anything else. Pretty cool, except that picking up someone elses program to debug was a bitch! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in high school - my older son was. I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make "telegraphs" out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a battery, a few nails, a little wire, and a strip of metal cut from a tin can to practice Morse code (I don't remember any of it now). I had to pass a slide rule test in college but in those days so did everyone else at Harvey Mudd. When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made a 5 1/4 floppy drive that used a format with 100 tracks per inch (they actually had more data on a single sided disk than IBM had on their double sided disk)? What is the difference between hard sectored and soft sectored floppies? What did the above mentioned drive use? Some other questions that come to mind that are not so tied into a specific machine are: What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead? What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? Or how about something from the days of main frame tapes that has come back to haunt me lately. What is an IBM standard label tape? What about it might help in identifying what is on the tape and where it came from? Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Has anyone worked on IBM's punch card sorter? And IBM-1401 Mainframe? Talk about un-breakable stuff. The 1401 cabinet had tumbled down 10 steps during its move to the new computer room (we did not have lifts/elevators in the building then). But came to life without any problems when it was hooked up to 1402 and 1403 and those tape units (that you see in the Movies). Was working fine till I left the company in 1983. The sorter was also working great !! - Kirti > -Original Message- > From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > staff > > 1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of > weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I > had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch > card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and > rearrange the cards. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > staff > > > I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer > most of those questions. > > and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > > >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > > > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in > >the field. > > > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > > > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? > >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? > >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? > >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > > > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > > > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > > > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > > > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > > > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's > >cover? > >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, > >vol > >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > > > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came > >with > >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I > >was > >in grade 11 in 1981. > > > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL > Learning > >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but > >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training > >companies will survive. > > > >Regards, > >Patrice Boivin > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > >-- > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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In 1981 my oldest child was 2 and I was working on a very primitive RDBMS at Boeing. As a pre-teen I was making a crystal radio and wondering why anyone would pay for batteries or electricity to power the radio when you could get all the energy that you needed from the broadcast itself. As a summer job in college I coded Computer Aided Instruction programs written in Coursewriter II that ran on an IBM 70x (don't remember the last digit) which had a magnetic core memory. Output came back on IBM electric typewriters that had been Rube Goldberged up as personal printers. My 2nd IT job was as a computer operator on an IBM 360. The boot sequence was toggled in using switches on the front of the computer. The IBM 370 had a 5 1/4" disk hard-wired that contained the boot sequence (circa 1977). The business OS for micro computers before DOS was CPM. Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels. When I was at Boeing around 1981 they did a survey to find the most used micro computer in the business environment. Then they went out and built a whole suite of integrated business products for that computer. There was a spreadsheet (BoeingCalc), a word processor, a mail program,a TTY terminal emulator, etc. Cost millions to develop. Unfortunately, it was developed for the Terak, not the IBM PC. The Terak was a rack-mounted 8-bit microprocessor whose main role was to control 6-axis milling machines. Not much demand for an integrated business suite there. Hard sectored floppies had their tracks physically defined. If I remember right there were a series of small holes punched between each track so that the head could align itself with the track. Soft sectored floppies are what we use today, where the media is continuous over the whole surface and the track (and the inter track gap) are defined magnetically. I do remember the 8" floppies. They made great frisbies. APL is "A Programming Language." If I remember right it didn't allow GOTOs. It also had its own keyboard with its own character set. Completely unintelligible to the uninitiated. Was the turtle language based on LISP? 800 BPI or 1600 BPI tapes? What's the blocking factor? I forget what the IEUtility was that I used for reading those standard (and non-standard) labels, but once you figured out the block size and the blocking factor you could dump the tape to an EPSDIC flat file and figure out the record layout. I saved many a boss's butt doing that in my early years. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Thanks, Ivan. Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. as a first generation Mexican-American. The great equalizers are self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs on your books. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
With RSX and KED? May be some good, old VT100 and VT220? Oh, that makes me nostalgic! > -Original Message- > From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:35 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in > potential IT staff > > > my last company still used pdp-11s > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked > much better than > my ugly metallic Kaypro. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of > punch cards and > such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and > still have is a > compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" > drives and a > little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about > 40 pounds, the > bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games > on it as a kid > and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a > good foot rest, > but that's about it:) > kk > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and > having to use > scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. > Or even the > older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as > them. My > computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Norwood Bradly A > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is strictly > confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; > it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. > Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of > the information by anyone other than the intended recipient > is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this > message in error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail. > > Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution > to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept > for viru
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nah, those were girl things. punch ball outside, roller skates with two sets of wheels and a key to tighten the front clasp, climbing monkey bars indoors it was books. Always books. I can't remember not reading >From: "Sherman, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:56:47 -0800 > >Mr. Peabody and Sherman? >Of course. > >I was into "Creepy Crawlers" and "Vac-U-Form" back then but I'll bet you >were more into "Incredible Edibles" or "Fun Flowers". > >Cheers > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >* * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * >The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated >by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Sherman, Edward > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858)
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
What was it Dreezel...drazzle...drozzle...drone Time for this one to come home! --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the "Wayback Machine" "Rachel Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L mail.com>cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be rem
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Now your getting to the good stuff! Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:39 PM > And the "Wayback Machine" > > > > "Rachel > Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > mail.com>cc: > Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure > root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff > com > > > 08/02/2001 > 02:11 PM > Please > respond to > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy > Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messa
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the "Wayback Machine" "Rachel Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L mail.com>cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels. What are you talking about? There's 2 of them right there in the name. Jared ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: om Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff 08/02/01 08:27 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L In 1981 my oldest child was 2 and I was working on a very primitive RDBMS at Boeing. As a pre-teen I was making a crystal radio and wondering why anyone would pay for batteries or electricity to power the radio when you could get all the energy that you needed from the broadcast itself. As a summer job in college I coded Computer Aided Instruction programs written in Coursewriter II that ran on an IBM 70x (don't remember the last digit) which had a magnetic core memory. Output came back on IBM electric typewriters that had been Rube Goldberged up as personal printers. My 2nd IT job was as a computer operator on an IBM 360. The boot sequence was toggled in using switches on the front of the computer. The IBM 370 had a 5 1/4" disk hard-wired that contained the boot sequence (circa 1977). did a survey to find the most used micro computer in the business environment. Then they went out and built a whole suite of integrated business products for that computer. There was a spreadsheet (BoeingCalc), a word processor, a mail program,a TTY terminal emulator, etc. Cost millions to develop. Unfortunately, it was developed for the Terak, not the IBM PC. The Terak was a rack-mounted 8-bit microprocessor whose main role was to control 6-axis milling machines. Not much demand for an integrated business suite there. Hard sectored floppies had their tracks physically defined. If I remember right there were a series of small holes punched between each track so that the head could align itself with the track. Soft sectored floppies are what we use today, where the media is continuous over the whole surface and the track (and the inter track gap) are defined magnetically. I do remember the 8" floppies. They made great frisbies. APL is "A Programming Language." If I remember right it didn't allow GOTOs. It also had its own keyboard with its own character set. Completely unintelligible to the uninitiated. Was the turtle language based on LISP? 800 BPI or 1600 BPI tapes? What's the blocking factor? I forget what the IEUtility was that I used for reading those standard (and non-standard) labels, but once you figured out the block size and the blocking factor you could dump the tape to an EPSDIC flat file and figure out the record layout. I saved many a boss's butt doing that in my early years. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists --
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) and I thought it was the speediest thing ever >From: "Seley, Linda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:28:15 -0800 > >One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years >ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we >were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a >1200k modem?) > >Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming >language and APL in the actuarial department. > >Linda > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Seley, Linda > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
my last company still used pdp-11s -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: April Wells INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Oh, I remember reminiscing ! I was all set to become a vetinary surgeon when I met a Commodore Pet, running rat trap and was hooked. That was 25 years ago. (sounds of sobbing and tears hitting the keyboard) Steve Parker Technical Consultant LIS -- Logistics & Internet Systems Ltd. -- "Thater, William" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT Sent by: staff root@fatcity. com 02/08/2001 16:01 Please respond to ORACLE-L On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil ->was after us. -> ->I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to ->make putting it back together simpler. -> ->When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay ->in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old ->days! i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.; -) i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for bookmarks. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Yes! Mr. Peabody, Boris and Natasha... who could forget them... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Mr. Peabody and Sherman? Of course. I was into "Creepy Crawlers" and "Vac-U-Form" back then but I'll bet you were more into "Incredible Edibles" or "Fun Flowers". Cheers -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). * * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Edward INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
>-Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his >-boy Sherman? On black and white TV!! :( -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Famous? OY! Ivan -- we usually manage one list get-together at the conferences. I'll gladly swap stories over beer with you. I work at a multi-media music company with an online presence (that's a quote from marketing). The average age here is about 23. I *think* the CEO is older than me, but if he is, it's close. My "'hood" is NYC, born and raised in Queens, second-generation Russian-American Jew (although according to an Anthropology teacher I had in college, "Jewish" is an ethnic background in and of itself) >From: Norwood Bradly A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:16:32 -0800 > >Thanks, Ivan. >Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. >as a first generation Mexican-American. >The great equalizers are self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. >When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs >on >your books. > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel >like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong >place :( . > >In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until >about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those >questions. > >You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the >technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is >invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk >that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately >never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. > >I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how >diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many >parts >of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever >thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have >anything >in common with you all? > >I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, >timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone >enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all >together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two >words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd >feel >just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or >chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. > >All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR >YALL! >(translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect >you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hahahah, that's a good idea, that would very funny!! -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a 1200k modem?) Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming language and APL in the actuarial department. Linda -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seley, Linda INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :) >From: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:39 -0800 > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Ah, but lack of knowledge seems to indicate that you have been worshipping a false god(dess). so I will leave before being found out and suitably punished :) >From: Scott Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:01:05 -0800 > >The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... > >--Scott Shafer, High Priest > San Antonio, TX > > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > > that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I > > don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff >but > > not all. > > > > I either: > > > > 1)never had a memory for anything > > 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life > > 3)am not and was not a nerd > > 4)all of the above > > > > I think I'll lurk for awhile > >_ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Scott Shafer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I remember doing APL on an IBM5100, an "AT" with a 4 inch B&W screen built on the side, and a switch to boot into APL or BASIC. The first thing they had to do was blow it to the top of the link with 64k of memory and TWO tape drives. I could do in two hours what it took an engineer 2 days to do. In fact I visited the company 10 years later and they wanted to know if I was willing to do some more work on the box. This was engineering, those monster storage takes for oil, gas, etc. It was great for APL... I can still remember API-650K was an algebraic formula that took 7 pages to document, and then the answer went back into the first step until it was less than 1/10th of an inch difference. But being matrix and vector oriented, you could to the whole thing all at the same time. For what we were doing it was pretty neat. I also remember IBM-360 model 25 and 40... 2311, 2314 disk drives... Maks. (Dating himself...) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mercadante, > Thomas F > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:41 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > > > "What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other > languages use? What was used instead?" > > A Programming Language. Not sure of the other questions, but I remember > learning the greek alphabet when I was using APL. Very powerful > vector-oriented language. You could write one-line programs to accept a > list of numbers, and spit out the average, mean, stand. dev., max, min and > about anything else. Pretty cool, except that picking up someone elses > program to debug was a bitch! > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Michael Kline INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The correct answer is 1 if it is a Cherry Toosie Pop. Kathy -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
2314 Disk drives are responsible for me being in the IT racket. The problem with the 2314 was that it was removable, but it could not be removed until it came to a complete stop. Otherwise you might damage the heads or the disk itself. The disk drive had a glass window so that you could see if something was mounted but the disk had no markings, so it was impossible to tell just by looking whether the disk was spinning or not. The only safe policy was to turn the drive off and wait five minutes to be certain that the disk had spun down. You then manually opened the drawer, attached a carrying handle to the drive, and very gingerly removed it. My immediate predecessor as a computer operator did not follow this policy. He yanked the drive out while it was still spinning, gyroscoped around the computer room and banged it into a printer. He then decided to remount it in order to make sure that he hadn't damaged the drive. The damaged drive trashed the heads. This genius then decided that he couldn't tell whether the drive or the heads were bad so he remounted the drive on another spindle, just in case it was the first spindle's heads that were bad. So he trashed the second spindle's heads. The machine had 4 spindles but it need two of them just to hold the operating system. So, they could boot the machine, but they couldn't mount any data or do any work. They fired him, had an opening, and hired me. You can bet that I was glad when the 3330 disk drive came in. It would not open the door to let you dismount the pack until the drive had spotted spinning. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>-Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his >>-boy Sherman? > >On black and white TV!! :( and was the screen round and did the tv have legs built in?
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy ->Sherman? Ok true story time. i went to work as a forms developer for Xerox Business Systems back in 93 and the first day i got into work i was setting up my star workstation and my PC when the project manager went into the cube next to mine and started giving the programmer there a REAL hard time. after he left i heard "moose and squrril, moose and squrill, is always moose and squrril!" in a perfect russian accent! i feel off my chair, and the guy came to see if i was alright. turns out he was from bellaruss(sp?) and learned english from watching cartoons. from then on, if meetings got stupid, we'd look at each other and go "moose and squrril". people left us alone.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
one (ker-runch!) >From: "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:27:16 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
We have a bowl full of them here. I will get back to you. I could maybe get the whole staff into it and average it out so that we have a more accurate answer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zero experience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenance programming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I worked blue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined the USAF and they told me I was a computer programmer... Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX "Page, Bruce" wrote: > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch >tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk >about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the >mid 70's. > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Scott Shafer scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... -> ->--Scott Shafer, High Priest -> San Antonio, TX hey, i thought that was my job!;-) and i think i've been in this damn business t long. should have took that job as a javalin catcher.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... --Scott Shafer, High Priest San Antonio, TX Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I > don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but > not all. > > I either: > > 1)never had a memory for anything > 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life > 3)am not and was not a nerd > 4)all of the above > > I think I'll lurk for awhile _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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According to Mr Owl, the answer is 3. Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > one (ker-runch!) > > >From: "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:27:16 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M. Nasty little thing. I built a billing system for a telephone company on them using Dbase II. We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 because we would sometimes go through a lot of them before we could get a good restore. We swore they had a built in "fry disk at random" command. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Peabody. Professor Peabody. A long-eared, white dog. Who taught "History" to Sherman. Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy > Sherman? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Ain't that the truth. I was in charge of maintaining them (I use the term very loosely) when I was in college and those drives were the flakiest things. Used to drive me nuts. The joys of running word star on CP/M... and thinking I was in heaven when I moved to wordperfect. Still think wordperfect was the best DOS wordprocessor on the market. --- "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and > CP/M. > > Nasty little thing. > I built a billing system for a telephone company on > them using Dbase II. > We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own > and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 > because we would sometimes go through a lot of them > before we could get a good restore. We swore they > had a built in "fry disk at random" command. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: > (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet > access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: A. Bardeen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! -Original Message- Brian Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. > > > >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about > >computers? What language was it based on? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil ->was after us. -> ->I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to ->make putting it back together simpler. -> ->When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay ->in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old ->days! i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.;-) i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for bookmarks. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and rearrange the cards. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L staff I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in >the field. > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's >cover? >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, >vol >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came >with >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I >was >in grade 11 in 1981. > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training >companies will survive. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. > > > >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about > >computers? What language was it based on? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in high school - my older son was. I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make "telegraphs" out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a battery, a few nails, a little wire, and a strip of metal cut from a tin can to practice Morse code (I don't remember any of it now). I had to pass a slide rule test in college but in those days so did everyone else at Harvey Mudd. When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made a 5 1/4 floppy drive that used a format with 100 tracks per inch (they actually had more data on a single sided disk than IBM had on their double sided disk)? What is the difference between hard sectored and soft sectored floppies? What did the above mentioned drive use? Some other questions that come to mind that are not so tied into a specific machine are: What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead? What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? Or how about something from the days of main frame tapes that has come back to haunt me lately. What is an IBM standard label tape? What about it might help in identifying what is on the tape and where it came from? Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Jenny Jacobson scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -> I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham -> radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit DX40 xmitter -> and an AR88 receiver. Math major in college. Earned an A in slide rule. ah yes, the humble slip stick. i had a collection, until my first wife burned them. well the ones that would burn of melt that is. she just warped the hell out of the brass ones.;-) but i still use one, i'm faster on that then a calculator. however the one i have is falling apart and finding a replacement is difficult.;-) so if any of you have one that you no longer want, contact me off list and i can give it a good home for a reasonable price.;-) and yes i am a geek.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. - Brook -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Boivin, Patrice J wrote: > e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit DX40 xmitter and an AR88 receiver. Math major in college. Earned an A in slide rule. Jenny Jacobson www.oracle-dba-consulting.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jenny Jacobson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: Heathkit! The S-100 bus! 8.5" floppies. I remember drooling over those catalogs. But I always thought that the Timex Sinclair was a toy. Timex? Makes a computer? > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? Paper tape! > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). I don't know this, but I do have a BYTE magazine from 1984. Don't remember exactly why I kept it, but now it's a classic! 10MB Winchester hard drives are $5,000. Ohio Scientific is the next big thing! Now...what did I have for breakfast? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
We need to admit the rest of the world considers us geeks. Even in IT world dba's are probably one of the geekeest (is it a new word I invented?), not too many people like us. Well, may be C++ programmers would come close in geekeness (new word again?) to us. My friend tried to hook me up with a guy whose profession had nothing to do with IT. He was concerned about my occupation... I need to let him read some of the e-mails on this list so he may know we're normal people and we know how to laugh. Should we also let duhvelopers in to prove to them we're OK? No, we won't bother... Lyuda -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:52 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Charlie Chaplin, easy one. > Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me. > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? 0 > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. I loved it when they came out with those precise clippers. > How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? Never had one, sorry. > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for 10 floppies. I thought it was a great deal!! > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. > What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? Asteroids, I think. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in >the field. > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's >cover? >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, >vol >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came >with >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I >was >in grade 11 in 1981. > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training >companies will survive. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > > Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. > I loved it when > they came out with those precise clippers. ***I just used a plain hole punch > > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for > 10 floppies. I > thought it was a great deal!! > *** It was pink > > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > > Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. *** I don't remember what IBM had them, but my old generic 486 has one. > > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? *** No, I don't believe it did. > > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What > cartridges came > with > > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > Asteroids, I think. I never got an Atari, but I would guess pong. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Charlie Chaplin, easy one. > Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me. > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? 0 > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. I loved it when they came out with those precise clippers. > How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? Never had one, sorry. > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for 10 floppies. I thought it was a great deal!! > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. > What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? Asteroids, I think. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).