RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-10-01 Thread Gene Sais


I second that 
https://grc.com website. It is a great 
resource for testing your vulnerabilities! 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/03 06:54PM Whatever you use go to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 
and http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm 
for testing your firewall product and make sure that the basic stuff is 
configured correctly.Also want to check out the URL http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm 
about various PC firewall products "leaking" and possible issues which certain 
versions.-f-Original Message-Sent: Tuesday, 
September 30, 2003 3:10 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L-- snip If you're feeling frisky, 
consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC(with 2 nics) running BSD or 
Linux. You can also find distros tweaked toact as a firewall/router - 
that's what I've done.-- snip The Linux distro I 
used was www.smoothwall.com (which is 
the similar towww.ipcop.com ) and I 
found that it worked very well. even on a sub 100MHzPC with 16MB RAM. Of 
course I had to load a customized module for IPSecbypass to allow me to 
connect to work using a Cisco VPN client.-Original 
Message-Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:05 PMTo: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-LKENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 
29, 2003 9:05AM said; I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. 
SP1. I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this 
machine. XPhas a firewall but it is not the greatest.ZoneAlarm 
on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the 
proversion.Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a 
DSL/Cable router -which has it's own firewall built in.If you're 
feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC(with 2 
nics) running BSD or Linux. You can also find distros tweaked toact as 
a firewall/router - that's what I've done.FWIW, a friend of mine had his 
XP system plugged directly into his RRconnection. Friend said he 
didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not intothat security crap, I just 
want to play games). Friend has now had toreformat his box (and lost 
work) because his box was rooted, blasted andfubared within days of hooking 
it to the cable connection w/out a firewall.YMMV.~brian-- 
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-10-01 Thread Mladen Gogala
I don't need to test my vulnerabilities. I know my vulnerabilities are
working well.

On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 11:09, Gene Sais wrote:
 I second that https://grc.com website.  It is a great resource for
 testing your vulnerabilities!
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/03 06:54PM 
 Whatever you use go to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and
 http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm for testing your firewall product and
 make sure that the basic stuff is configured correctly.
 
 Also want to check out the URL http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm about
 various PC firewall products leaking and possible issues which
 certain versions.
 
 -f
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:10 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 -- snip 
 
 If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with
 a PC
 (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked
 to
 act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.
 
 -- snip 
 
 The Linux distro I used was www.smoothwall.com (which is the similar
 to
 www.ipcop.com ) and I found that it worked very well. even on a sub
 100MHz
 PC with 16MB RAM. Of course I had to load a customized module for
 IPSec
 bypass to allow me to connect to work using a Cisco VPN client.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:05 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003
 9:05
 AM said;
 
 
  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.
 
  I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this
 machine.  XP
 has a firewall but it is not the greatest.
 
 ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
 version.
 Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable
 router -
 which has it's own firewall built in.
 
 If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with
 a PC
 (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked
 to
 act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.
 
 FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
 connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not
 into
 that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
 reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted
 and
 fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a
 firewall.
 YMMV.
 
 ~brian
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Re: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-10-01 Thread Nuno Souto
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 I don't need to test my vulnerabilities. I know my vulnerabilities are
 working well.

Hehehe!  As we'd say in my local newsgroup:
Check yuor settings!

  I second that https://grc.com website.  It is a great resource for
  testing your vulnerabilities!

Too true.
But the best solution by far if you have a high speed cable or ADSL 
connection is to get hold of one of those Netgear or Dlink firewall/router 
boxes.  Not only do you get peace of mind that works with ANY box connected
to it (be it Windoze or Lunix), but you also get a hub and shared connect 
thrown into the bargain.

And it survives the grc.com test.  Add an anonymous proxie for your browsing 
and you're as safe as you can get.  Except for e-maul.

Cheers
Nuno Souto
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-30 Thread Mark Leith
I've used Black Ice in the past as well Peter, and I know what you mean on
that count. I now user Sygate Personal Edition, which is a LOT better at
this. It won't let anything in, nor *out* without asking me if it's OK. It
also holds a log of incoming and outgoing traffic, showing accepted and
blocked.

Very good little firewall in my opinion, and I've used Black Ice, Zonealarm,
and Symantec products in the past. It's ideal for a single PC (home)
installation.

http://smb.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm (The Free version is at the
bottom).

Mark


-Original Message-
Robson, Peter
Sent: 29 September 2003 18:50
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


On the same area - I'm using Black Ice, but its never been clear to me
whether these products trap outgoing stuff.

The BIG problem as I see it as when one inadvertently loads a 1 pixel gif,
populated from a rogue site, which then gives implicit confirmation that
there is a PC at the end of the line...

Anyone been down this particular topic?

peter
edinburgh


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 Subject: RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation


 KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September
 29, 2003 9:05
 AM said;


  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.

  I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this
 machine.  XP
 has a firewall but it is not the greatest.

 ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
 version.
 Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a
 DSL/Cable router -
 which has it's own firewall built in.

 If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the
 router/firewall with a PC
 (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find
 distros tweaked to
 act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

 FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
 connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router
 (I'm not into
 that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
 reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted,
 blasted and
 fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection
 w/out a firewall.
 YMMV.

 ~brian
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-30 Thread Suri, Deepak
-- snip 

If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
(with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

-- snip 

The Linux distro I used was www.smoothwall.com (which is the similar to
www.ipcop.com ) and I found that it worked very well. even on a sub 100MHz
PC with 16MB RAM. Of course I had to load a customized module for IPSec
bypass to allow me to connect to work using a Cisco VPN client.



-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05
AM said;


 I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.

 I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine.  XP
has a firewall but it is not the greatest.

ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
version.
Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable router -
which has it's own firewall built in.

If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
(with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not into
that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted and
fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a firewall.
YMMV.

~brian
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-30 Thread Faan DeSwardt
Whatever you use go to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and 
http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm for testing your firewall product and make sure that 
the basic stuff is configured correctly.

Also want to check out the URL http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm about various PC 
firewall products leaking and possible issues which certain versions.

-f

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


-- snip 

If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
(with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

-- snip 

The Linux distro I used was www.smoothwall.com (which is the similar to
www.ipcop.com ) and I found that it worked very well. even on a sub 100MHz
PC with 16MB RAM. Of course I had to load a customized module for IPSec
bypass to allow me to connect to work using a Cisco VPN client.



-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05
AM said;


 I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.

 I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine.  XP
has a firewall but it is not the greatest.

ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
version.
Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable router -
which has it's own firewall built in.

If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
(with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not into
that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted and
fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a firewall.
YMMV.

~brian
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



I use Mcafee online Virus scanner and firewall. Been happy for 3+ 
years.

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
com All Views expressed in this email 
are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 

  -Original Message-From: KENNETH JANUSZ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:05 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Off 
  Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation
  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. 
  SP1.
  
  I would like recommendations as to a 
  good firewall for this machine. XP has a firewall but it is not the 
  greatest.
  
  Thanks much,
  Ken Janusz, 
CPIM
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Leith



I use 
Sygate Personal Firewall (free), and I've never had any problems. Very good 
little firewall. 

Mark


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  RajendraSent: 29 September 2003 15:20To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall 
  Recommendation
  I use Mcafee online Virus scanner and firewall. Been happy for 3+ 
  years.
  
  Raj
   
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  com All Views expressed in this 
  email are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:05 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Off 
Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation
I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. 
SP1.

I would like recommendations as to a 
good firewall for this machine. XP has a firewall but it is not the 
greatest.

Thanks much,
Ken Janusz, 
  CPIM


RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Moynahan



If you have access to a spare pc you're better off 
running OpenBSD as your firewall/router and leaving your Windoze pc behind the 
firewall.

HTH,

Mark Moynahan 


  -Original Message-
  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. 
  SP1.
  
  I would like recommendations as to a 
  good firewall for this machine. XP has a firewall but it is not the 
  greatest.
  
  Thanks much,
  Ken Janusz, 
CPIM


RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Grabowy, Chris



Try 
Zonealarm. It's free.

I have 
a wireless router, which has a built in firewall.

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of KENNETH 
  JANUSZSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:05 AMTo: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Off Topic: PC Firewall 
  Recommendation
  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. 
  SP1.
  
  I would like recommendations as to a 
  good firewall for this machine. XP has a firewall but it is not the 
  greatest.
  
  Thanks much,
  Ken Janusz, 
CPIM


RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Brian Dunbar
KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05
AM said;


 I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.

 I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine.  XP
has a firewall but it is not the greatest.

ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
version.
Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable router -
which has it's own firewall built in.

If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
(with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not into
that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted and
fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a firewall.
YMMV.

~brian
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Re: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
My PC is stand alone with dial-up phone line.

Ken


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 KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05
 AM said;


  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.

  I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine.  XP
 has a firewall but it is not the greatest.

 ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
 version.
 Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable
router -
 which has it's own firewall built in.

 If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC
 (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find distros tweaked to
 act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.

 FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
 connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not into
 that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
 reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted and
 fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a
firewall.
 YMMV.

 ~brian
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Robson, Peter
On the same area - I'm using Black Ice, but its never been clear to me
whether these products trap outgoing stuff.

The BIG problem as I see it as when one inadvertently loads a 1 pixel gif,
populated from a rogue site, which then gives implicit confirmation that
there is a PC at the end of the line...

Anyone been down this particular topic?

peter
edinburgh


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 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:05 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation
 
 
 KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 
 29, 2003 9:05
 AM said;
 
 
  I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.
 
  I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this 
 machine.  XP
 has a firewall but it is not the greatest.
 
 ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro
 version.
 Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a 
 DSL/Cable router -
 which has it's own firewall built in.
 
 If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the 
 router/firewall with a PC
 (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux.  You can also find 
 distros tweaked to
 act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done.
 
 FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR
 connection.  Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router 
 (I'm not into
 that security crap, I just want to play games).  Friend has now had to
 reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, 
 blasted and
 fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection 
 w/out a firewall.
 YMMV.
 
 ~brian
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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Paul Baumgartel
I second this recommendation. CNET testing showed that ZoneAlarm (even
the free version; there's also ZoneAlarm Pro) did a better job of
blocking break-in and hack attempts than most of the commercial
products.   
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try Zonealarm.   It's free.
  
 I have a wireless router, which has a built in firewall.
 
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 I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.
  
 I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine. 
 XP has a firewall but it is not the greatest.
  
 Thanks much,
 Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
 


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RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation

2003-09-29 Thread Bob Metelsky
I agree

I have a SMC 8 port broadband router that has a web based firewall admin
module. It's worked excellent for over 2 years and is fully
configurable. I would look for any over the counter router that included
a web based firewall. Probably around $75

SMC lynksys...



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I second this recommendation. CNET testing showed that ZoneAlarm (even
the free version; there's also ZoneAlarm Pro) did a better job of
blocking break-in and hack attempts than most of the commercial
products.   
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try Zonealarm.   It's free.
  
 I have a wireless router, which has a built in firewall.
 
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 I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1.
  
 I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine. 
 XP has a firewall but it is not the greatest.
  
 Thanks much,
 Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
 


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