RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools

2001-07-10 Thread Kimberly Smith

I would say now that CA owns ERwin it pretty much is terminal, regardless of

whether or not its the last release they send out.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For those of you who maybe interested:

 Kumar: CA to organize products into four brands

 At CA World, Computer Associates President and CEO Sanjay Kumar outlined
the
 software vendor's plan to refocus on six core segments divided into four
branded
 product lines.

 http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62061_NLTam%2C00.html
 --

so - does this mean 4.0 is a terminal release for ERWin?

I couldn't read that far between the lines.

Paul


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RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools

2001-07-10 Thread Mark Leith

Other than those from the companies you have mentioned (and personally - as
already mentioned - I would stay away from CA) here are a few others to bear
in mind:

SHAMELESS PLUG
NORAD Surveillance Module - www.bradmark.com (also www.cool-tools.co.uk)
(Sits in between Spotlight  Foglight from Quest, except cheaper, well
established, and highly configurable)
/SHAMELESS PLUG

Performance Centre - www.embarcadero.com
(Only version 1.something at the moment, but a solid start for a monitoring
tool)

Mamba - www.luminate.com
(it's free but a cool tool all the same)

Precise SQL - www.precise.com ?
(Very low impact on the actual server, meaning you can have very low
monitoring periods (2 seconds even) as they have mapped the system memory,
and do not need to connect to the database to monitor it)

Experience from market:

CA
(Don't even go there, support is bad, the products may be good, but not
really going anywhere in a hurry)

Quest
(Good solid tools, constantly moving forward in development, support a
little flaky at times and pretty expensive, but widely used)

BMC
(Plenty of $$, hard to configure for monitoring (have even heard you need
consultants to do this) but again good tools if you can afford them)

This is really a quick overview..

HTH

Mark

Disclaimer: These are my own personal views, from my experience in the DBA
tool market place, and in no way reflects the views of my employer
Cool-Tools


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DBA's:

We're looking at tools for monitoring and tuning our databases.  Our
primary applications are data warehouse, data marts, document control,
help desk, and laboratory management.  (We also have SAP but they have
their own tool set).

Anybody have any experience/recommendations/stay-away-froms for stuff from
vendors like BMC, Quest, CA, etc.?

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools

2001-07-09 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I have no real product experiences to share with you.  Just offering to add
another name to your list.  

www.dbdoctor.net  They contaced me after they had read my white paper about
database monitoring.  They sell a service, not a product.  Basically they
have software that collects data/stats about your databases.  From this data
they generate reports.  One of the reports is a DBA to-do list of things
that need to be fixed/tweaked.  Check'em out.  

If, by chance, you do sign up with them then please let me know what you
think of there service.

Thanks.

Chris
May Oracle be with you...always

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DBA's:

We're looking at tools for monitoring and tuning our databases.  Our
primary applications are data warehouse, data marts, document control,
help desk, and laboratory management.  (We also have SAP but they have
their own tool set).

Anybody have any experience/recommendations/stay-away-froms for stuff from
vendors like BMC, Quest, CA, etc.?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools

2001-07-09 Thread Paul Drake

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For those of you who maybe interested:

 Kumar: CA to organize products into four brands

 At CA World, Computer Associates President and CEO Sanjay Kumar outlined the
 software vendor's plan to refocus on six core segments divided into four branded
 product lines.

 http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62061_NLTam%2C00.html
 --

so - does this mean 4.0 is a terminal release for ERWin?

I couldn't read that far between the lines.

Paul


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