RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools
I would say now that CA owns ERwin it pretty much is terminal, regardless of whether or not its the last release they send out. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you who maybe interested: Kumar: CA to organize products into four brands At CA World, Computer Associates President and CEO Sanjay Kumar outlined the software vendor's plan to refocus on six core segments divided into four branded product lines. http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62061_NLTam%2C00.html -- so - does this mean 4.0 is a terminal release for ERWin? I couldn't read that far between the lines. Paul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Paul Drake INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools
Other than those from the companies you have mentioned (and personally - as already mentioned - I would stay away from CA) here are a few others to bear in mind: SHAMELESS PLUG NORAD Surveillance Module - www.bradmark.com (also www.cool-tools.co.uk) (Sits in between Spotlight Foglight from Quest, except cheaper, well established, and highly configurable) /SHAMELESS PLUG Performance Centre - www.embarcadero.com (Only version 1.something at the moment, but a solid start for a monitoring tool) Mamba - www.luminate.com (it's free but a cool tool all the same) Precise SQL - www.precise.com ? (Very low impact on the actual server, meaning you can have very low monitoring periods (2 seconds even) as they have mapped the system memory, and do not need to connect to the database to monitor it) Experience from market: CA (Don't even go there, support is bad, the products may be good, but not really going anywhere in a hurry) Quest (Good solid tools, constantly moving forward in development, support a little flaky at times and pretty expensive, but widely used) BMC (Plenty of $$, hard to configure for monitoring (have even heard you need consultants to do this) but again good tools if you can afford them) This is really a quick overview.. HTH Mark Disclaimer: These are my own personal views, from my experience in the DBA tool market place, and in no way reflects the views of my employer Cool-Tools -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 06:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DBA's: We're looking at tools for monitoring and tuning our databases. Our primary applications are data warehouse, data marts, document control, help desk, and laboratory management. (We also have SAP but they have their own tool set). Anybody have any experience/recommendations/stay-away-froms for stuff from vendors like BMC, Quest, CA, etc.? Thanks, Mike --- === Michael P. Vergara | I've got a PBS mind in an MTV world Oracle DBA | Guidant Corporation | -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools
I have no real product experiences to share with you. Just offering to add another name to your list. www.dbdoctor.net They contaced me after they had read my white paper about database monitoring. They sell a service, not a product. Basically they have software that collects data/stats about your databases. From this data they generate reports. One of the reports is a DBA to-do list of things that need to be fixed/tweaked. Check'em out. If, by chance, you do sign up with them then please let me know what you think of there service. Thanks. Chris May Oracle be with you...always -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DBA's: We're looking at tools for monitoring and tuning our databases. Our primary applications are data warehouse, data marts, document control, help desk, and laboratory management. (We also have SAP but they have their own tool set). Anybody have any experience/recommendations/stay-away-froms for stuff from vendors like BMC, Quest, CA, etc.? Thanks, Mike --- === Michael P. Vergara | I've got a PBS mind in an MTV world Oracle DBA | Guidant Corporation | -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Performance/Optimization/Monitoring Tools
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you who maybe interested: Kumar: CA to organize products into four brands At CA World, Computer Associates President and CEO Sanjay Kumar outlined the software vendor's plan to refocus on six core segments divided into four branded product lines. http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62061_NLTam%2C00.html -- so - does this mean 4.0 is a terminal release for ERWin? I couldn't read that far between the lines. Paul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Paul Drake INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).