RE: RE: How to drop a datafile ?
Prem I will provide my guesses and maybe someone that knows the real story will reply. First, in order for Oracle to drop a datafile, you would somehow have to ensure that it is empty. I would guess if Oracle added this feature, then Oracle Support would receive a lot of questions about why it erred out for them. Second, for any software system, what is the portion most likely to cause an error? The part that changed last. If they created this feature at this late date, it would probably produce weird behavior sometime. Finally, developers develop what they are requested to develop. Those requests generally come from marketing. For odd features like this marketing probably gets a list from support. So, if many customers aren't requesting a feature, it will probably never get on the development feature list. But that is all just a guess based on my personal experience working for a software vendor long ago on a faraway planet, and that vendor certainly wasn't Oracle. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanx everybody. i thought there would be a way to do it. just curious . why is it not so ? any good reason for it ?!!! Regards, Jp. 30-10-2003 02:34:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That won't actually do what you're implying. Checking the docs would prove helpful. From the SQL ref: If the database is in NOARCHIVELOG mode, you must specify the DROP clause to take a datafile offline. However, the DROP clause does not remove the datafile from the database. To do that, you must drop the tablespace in which the datafile resides. Until you do so, the datafile remains in the data dictionary with the status RECOVER or OFFLINE. If the database is in ARCHIVELOG mode, Oracle ignores the DROP keyword. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: How to drop a datafile ?
Thanx everybody. i thought there would be a way to do it. just curious . why is it not so ? any good reason for it ?!!! Regards, Jp. 30-10-2003 02:34:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That won't actually do what you're implying. Checking the docs would prove helpful. From the SQL ref: If the database is in NOARCHIVELOG mode, you must specify the DROP clause to take a datafile offline. However, the DROP clause does not remove the datafile from the database. To do that, you must drop the tablespace in which the datafile resides. Until you do so, the datafile remains in the data dictionary with the status RECOVER or OFFLINE. If the database is in ARCHIVELOG mode, Oracle ignores the DROP keyword. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: How to drop a datafile ?
Thanx craig. but is there no way of dropping a datafile then ? Regards, Jp. 29-10-2003 18:24:25, Craig Richards wrote: I don't beelive you can drop a datafile from a tablespace, you have to drop the tablespace, just reaize the datafile to 1M if space is the problem Regards -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: How to drop a datafile ?
if you have a tablespace with 10 datafiles. can you drop just one datafile? From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 08:04:25 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to drop a datafile ? export the data (make sure you get all the data) drop the tablespace and recreate it import the data --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx Sinardy Rachel. so,the only way is as what Sinardy said. is that so ? Regards, Jp. 29-10-2003 19:44:25, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The doc is right. You cannot drop a single datafile from a tablespace. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: How to drop a datafile ?
disregard my question. i saw it in an earlier post. sorry i have several hundred emails this morning. i missed it. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 08:04:25 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to drop a datafile ? export the data (make sure you get all the data) drop the tablespace and recreate it import the data --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx Sinardy Rachel. so,the only way is as what Sinardy said. is that so ? Regards, Jp. 29-10-2003 19:44:25, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The doc is right. You cannot drop a single datafile from a tablespace. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: How to drop a datafile ?
Just to reiterate what Rachel has already said (further down the page in your own email) . The doc is right. You cannot drop a single datafile from a tablespace -Original Message- Sent: 29 October 2003 13:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L if you have a tablespace with 10 datafiles. can you drop just one datafile? From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 08:04:25 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to drop a datafile ? export the data (make sure you get all the data) drop the tablespace and recreate it import the data --- Prem Khanna J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx Sinardy Rachel. so,the only way is as what Sinardy said. is that so ? Regards, Jp. 29-10-2003 19:44:25, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The doc is right. You cannot drop a single datafile from a tablespace. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
