RE: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now book idea - hig

2001-06-11 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now book idea - high 





I haven't written it yet :), but Don G. and I have talked
about writing it together a couple of times. 
The only thing stopping me from the attempt is
the how much time it'll take me away from 
my kids.



R. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Meddle not in the affairs of troff, 
 for it is subtle and quick to anger.




 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: WAS: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now 
 book idea -
 high 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi Jim,
  
  I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been 
 written before , but
  I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people.
  
  Oracle High Availability:
  - Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to 
 backup archive logs ,
  tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process 
 instance recovery ,
  case studies , etc...);
  - Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls 
 , etc...);
  - OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
  - Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync 
 with production
  databases);
  - Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , 
 clusters , SANs ,
  etc...);
  - Tips  Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment 
 (administration , online
  backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...);
  - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction 
 about Oracle 9i
  Real Application Clusters.
  
  If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time 
 , and , please ,
  could you give me the name of this book ??
  
  Regards,
  Antonio Belloni
  
 
 Antonio,
 
 A book covering some of this material already exists: Oracle 
 24x7 Tips 
 Techniques
 
 http://www.osborne.com/oracle/index.html
 http://www.bookpool.com/.x/sshhpzr290/sm/0072119993
 
 I'm not making a recommendation either way - I read the book some time
 ago, and thought it was good, but that was many books ago. My 
 standards
 are likely to have risen - then again - I might get alot more 
 out of it
 the second time thru. 
 
 Chapter 19 is available online at the osborne site - Builing a
 Real-World Arsenal.
 
 
 A book covering some of the Backup and Recovery material would be
 Oracle 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook - Velpuri - which has no less
 than 22 case studies listed.
 (Just don't expect to get any good NT backup scripts there).
 
 
 In general, your best bet is to stick to the papers published in this
 area - as you are much more likely to find individual topics discussed
 in a white paper format that are recent enough to be useful. So much
 high-avail material is platform-dependent - it would be difficult to
 assemble something across all platforms - and fit it into a 
 single book.
 
 Tim Gorman's paper on High-Avail -
 http://www.evergreen-database.com/TD_HA.pdf
 
 You ask about:
  - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction 
 about Oracle 9i
  Real Application Clusters.
 
 I would suggest visiting the IOUG.org site.
 Here is one paper as an example - #114
 An Introductiono to High Availability Solutions by Brian McGraw
 Okay - its only introductory - but you have to start somewhere.
 
 
 (no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Metalink
 http://metalink.oracle.com/
 here are some examples from the Technical Library for high avail
 
 Failover Issues and Limitations [Connect-time failover and 
 TAF] 97926.1 
 8.0.x-8.1.x: Sample config for Transparent Application 69745.1 
 Dead Connection Detection Explained 2061476.6 
 
 
 Do you want someone to simply re-use the Oracle Documentation on the
 subject, or get advice from someone that has actually used 
 the product?
 It seems to me that you won't see a book on such things until 
 12 months
 after it has been released - while you might see individual papers out
 much sooner. You'll just have to do a bit of searching on your own to
 find the info.
 
 
 (no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Technet
 there is a section called Oracle Real Application Clusters at
 http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/content.html
 
 including:
 Managing Oracle9i Real Application Clusters 
 Building Highly Available Database Servers Using Oracle Real 
 Application
 Clusters 
 Oracle9i Real Application Clusters, Cache Fusion Delivers Scalability
 
 that would certainly be a start.
 
 hth,
 
 Paul
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RE: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now book idea - hig

2001-06-11 Thread antonio . belloni


Yeah , I think that family is the most sacrificed part.

If I would write a book , I would have to do it in my free times ( evenings
, nights , weekends ) , and usually this is the time that I have to spend
with my wife and kid.

Regards,
Antonio Belloni




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I haven't written it yet :), but Don G. and I have talked
about writing it together a couple of times.
The only thing stopping me from the attempt is
the how much time it'll take me away from
my kids.


R. Matt Adams  - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Meddle not in the affairs of troff,
  for it is subtle and quick to anger.


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: WAS: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now
 book idea -
 high


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Jim,
 
  I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been
 written before , but
  I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people.
 
  Oracle High Availability:
  - Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to
 backup archive logs ,
  tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process
 instance recovery ,
  case studies , etc...);
  - Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls
 , etc...);
  - OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
  - Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync
 with production
  databases);
  - Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers ,
 clusters , SANs ,
  etc...);
  - Tips  Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment
 (administration , online
  backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...);
  - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction
 about Oracle 9i
  Real Application Clusters.
 
  If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time
 , and , please ,
  could you give me the name of this book ??
 
  Regards,
  Antonio Belloni
 

 Antonio,

 A book covering some of this material already exists: Oracle
 24x7 Tips 
 Techniques

 http://www.osborne.com/oracle/index.html
 http://www.bookpool.com/.x/sshhpzr290/sm/0072119993

 I'm not making a recommendation either way - I read the book some time
 ago, and thought it was good, but that was many books ago. My
 standards
 are likely to have risen - then again - I might get alot more
 out of it
 the second time thru.

 Chapter 19 is available online at the osborne site - Builing a
 Real-World Arsenal.


 A book covering some of the Backup and Recovery material would be
 Oracle 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook - Velpuri - which has no less
 than 22 case studies listed.
 (Just don't expect to get any good NT backup scripts there).


 In general, your best bet is to stick to the papers published in this
 area - as you are much more likely to find individual topics discussed
 in a white paper format that are recent enough to be useful. So much
 high-avail material is platform-dependent - it would be difficult to
 assemble something across all platforms - and fit it into a
 single book.

 Tim Gorman's paper on High-Avail -
 http://www.evergreen-database.com/TD_HA.pdf

 You ask about:
  - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction
 about Oracle 9i
  Real Application Clusters.

 I would suggest visiting the IOUG.org site.
 Here is one paper as an example - #114
 An Introductiono to High Availability Solutions by Brian McGraw
 Okay - its only introductory - but you have to start somewhere.


 (no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Metalink
 http://metalink.oracle.com/
 here are some examples from the Technical Library for high avail

 Failover Issues and Limitations [Connect-time failover and
 TAF] 97926.1
 8.0.x-8.1.x: Sample config for Transparent Application 69745.1
 Dead Connection Detection Explained 2061476.6


 Do you want someone to simply re-use the Oracle Documentation on the
 subject, or get advice from someone that has actually used
 the product?
 It seems to me that you won't see a book on such things until
 12 months
 after it has been released - while you might see individual papers out
 much sooner. You'll just have to do a bit of searching on your own to
 find the info.


 (no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Technet
 there is a section called Oracle Real Application Clusters at
 http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/content.html

 including:
 Managing Oracle9i Real Application Clusters
 Building Highly Available Database Servers Using Oracle Real
 Application
 Clusters
 Oracle9i Real Application Clusters, Cache Fusion Delivers Scalability

 that would certainly be a start.

 hth,

 Paul
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