Re: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Ed Lewis

Dick and Dennis,
The application here is the same, where all
users are logged in as the same user via
the application server.
But in my case, I want to throttle all the
users who use this id. Wouldn't ORM be beneficial in that
situation ? thanks.

ed

 Dennis,

 You've got that right.  Damned PeopleSoft!  We were hoping we might be
able
 to leverage ORM to control PeopleSorft query users.  No such luck since
everyone
 is PeopleSoft.  Now on the other hand, if you've got the LUXURY of having
people
 logged in with their own usernames you certainly can throttle down those
you
 want, almost to a crawl.

dick goulet

 Dick - My understanding is that Oracle Resource Manager controls resources
 based on userid. In other words, if a third-party application or an
 application server uses the same Oracle userid for access, then Oracle
 Resource Manager wouldn't help much. Is that what you've seen?
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.

 Ed,

 The only way your going to do this is through Oracle Resource Manager.
 You'll need an 8.1.x Enterprise database.  Then you can setup your
resource
 plans and groups to manage who gets how much CPU at a time.  Any of the
 operating level tools out there cannot get down to the level of
granularity
 your
 asking for since all of the activity happens within Oracle.  All those
tools
 can
 do is control the amount of CPU that Oracle gets which has a global effect
 that
 hampers all users of the database.

 Dick Goulet

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RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle






Just some thoughts. Does your OS have any domain partitioning features that you can use to create separate servers? You could carve out a portion of the CPU resources into a small domain and dedicate it to your problem child. The net effect would be to throttle the problem database by denying it the resources used by the others.

How about using processor sets do achieve the same thing. I'm thinking along the lines of two sets, one with a very low number of CPU's. You would then bind your problem child to the small set and the rest to the other.


HTH

Tony Aponte





Re: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-29 Thread Ed Lewis
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle



Tony,
 No, as of now it does not have 
that functionality.
 Thanks for your 
input.
  
ed

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Aponte, Tony 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:33 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling 
  CPU usage through Oracle
  
  Just some thoughts. Does your OS have any domain 
  partitioning features that you can use to create separate "servers"? You 
  could carve out a portion of the CPU resources into a small domain and 
  dedicate it to your problem child. The net effect would be to throttle 
  the problem database by denying it the resources used by the 
others.
  How about using processor sets do achieve the same 
  thing. I'm thinking along the lines of two sets, one with a very low 
  number of CPU's. You would then bind your problem child to the small set 
  and the rest to the other.
  HTH Tony Aponte