RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Richard Foote scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > So in short Cary, you have a fair to average chance of passing the > exams :) that's Ok for Cary, what about us mere mortals?;-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin has to be shed before the new one can come Joseph Campbell -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Hi Prem Comments in line. > Hi Richard , > > Many a thanx for both of your replies . > All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? Although there are certainly some dodgy questions and correspondingly suz answers, I think you'll find the majority of the OCP exam will have 'relatively' clear answers. Certainly enough to make a failure be a deservable event :) My biggest wish would be for there to be 3 additional selections to most questions: F) what does it matter so who cares G) you would check the syntax, correct parameter name, etc. in the manuals H) it depends because the above 3 answers are generally (often collectively) the *correct* answer to the questions. > > And your reply has increased my self-confidence. > particularly the line : > Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > > You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > yes Richard : ( > hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. > i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . Experience only comes with time. And in time, your confidence will grow. Trust me, you'll get there. > > okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . > if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , > what will be your two best answers ? > Honestly, with this question, I would keep a mental picture of the thing, pick any 2 answers (users and sort_area_size would be my pick but as I said, they're simply not correct), move on to the next question and report back to Oracle what the hell they meant by the bloody thing. Cheers (and good luck) Richard -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Foote INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
- Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:59 AM > My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying > what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some > "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > Hi Cary Yes you can. That's why you're allowed to get 1/3 of the questions wrong and still pass the exam !! In defence of the questions, it's actually not that easy to write a multiple choice question that is both challenging AND non-ambiguous. The more complex an issue, the less likely you're going to successfully bind up a comprehensive and accurate answer in a single statement. That's why so many of the questions are so trivial, that's why the exams are so trivial and that's why the multiple choice method is so awful in determining an OCP. Attempts of questions to go beyond syntax, parameter settings, etc. often cause confusion and debate because the answer to the more complex issue isn't as simplistic as the question writers hoped it to be. Interestingly, during beta testing, questions get selected based on how many people actually get the same (hopefully) correct answer. If most people agree with an answer, then the question is less likely to be ambiguous. So by intentional design, the OCP exams are actually aimed and geared towards the lowest common denominator. So in short Cary, you have a fair to average chance of passing the exams :) Cheers Richard -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Foote INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
> My guess would be that one could pass the exam just by working with Oracle > for a couple of years and comparing that to some practice questions, one True. I took the beta OCP tests in 1997, with about 150 questions per test. They were free at OOW, so it seemed like a good price. Three years experience, no problem. Of course, some of my answers were probably incorrect, in accordance with my misconceptions at the time, but they were good enough to pass the test. ;) Jared On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 14:34, Niall Litchfield wrote: > Hi all > > I have a problem with a lot of the commentary on the OCP that I have read > here and elsewhere, especially that which focusses on specific questions and > the, ahem, 'product features' associated with them. My problem is this. To > me the OCP, or rather the OU courses and the associated revision (= what the > hell did I do 2 months ago I've got a test now) work necessary to pass the > OCP were particularly helpful in illuminating areas in which I was, now what > is the expression - ah yes, brain-dead. > > MTS and connection pooling for example, wonderful stuff, what a good idea. > Don't use it myself, don't know how it works and keep getting the acronym > confused with Microsoft Transaction Server. Oh what you mean maybe I should > at least recognize the term and the idea behind it. Oh very well then. > > My guess would be that one could pass the exam just by working with Oracle > for a couple of years and comparing that to some practice questions, one > wouldn't do especially well but 60% or so will pass you. Doing the courses, > especially if you get one of those educators who insist on knowing how the > thing actually works as well as what the course notes say will be an even > better investment. > > Of course criticism of the OCP based on the fact that it values version > specific syntax over DBA/Developer principles is right on the money IMO. > > Niall > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Hi all I have a problem with a lot of the commentary on the OCP that I have read here and elsewhere, especially that which focusses on specific questions and the, ahem, 'product features' associated with them. My problem is this. To me the OCP, or rather the OU courses and the associated revision (= what the hell did I do 2 months ago I've got a test now) work necessary to pass the OCP were particularly helpful in illuminating areas in which I was, now what is the expression - ah yes, brain-dead. MTS and connection pooling for example, wonderful stuff, what a good idea. Don't use it myself, don't know how it works and keep getting the acronym confused with Microsoft Transaction Server. Oh what you mean maybe I should at least recognize the term and the idea behind it. Oh very well then. My guess would be that one could pass the exam just by working with Oracle for a couple of years and comparing that to some practice questions, one wouldn't do especially well but 60% or so will pass you. Doing the courses, especially if you get one of those educators who insist on knowing how the thing actually works as well as what the course notes say will be an even better investment. Of course criticism of the OCP based on the fact that it values version specific syntax over DBA/Developer principles is right on the money IMO. Niall -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Niall Litchfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
the pl/sql exam is really bad too. It got worse from 8i to 9i. 10% of the exam was on DBMS_LOB and no other packages were touched? I had about 6-7 questions on parameter ordering. Its accurate, just useless. I thought the architecture test wasn't bad at all. The 8i backup and recovery one was 'ok' also. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:19 PM > Yes, I was the one. I was just wondering whether the OCP performance > exam was really as bad as it used to be. I haven't seen it since > whatever the things were called back in the early 90s. From some of what > I've seen here, the answer is that yes it is the same. Not just > philosophically the same, but probably some of the same release 7 > questions are still on the test. > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta > - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas > - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas > - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > > -Original Message- > Carel-Jan Engel > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:05 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Wasn't it you, Cary, who got tought by his parents that every question > has > two answers: The right one and the one the teacher wants to hear? And > you > had to learn them both? > > That's merely what OCP is about, I think. Get a certificate to get > hired, > and get the proper knowledge to remain hired ;-) > > > Regards, Carel-Jan > > === > If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) > === > > At 07:59 7-1-04 -0800, you wrote: > >My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying > >what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some > >"veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > > > > > >Cary Millsap > >Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > >http://www.hotsos.com > > > >Upcoming events: > >- Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta > >- SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas > >- Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas > >- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > > > > >-Original Message- > >Prem Khanna J > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Hi Richard , > > > >Many a thanx for both of your replies . > >All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? > > > >And your reply has increased my self-confidence. > >particularly the line : > >Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > > > >You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > > > >yes Richard : ( > >hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. > >i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . > > > >okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . > >if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , > >what will be your two best answers ? > > > >Thanks and Regards, > >Prem. > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > >-- > >Author: Prem Khanna J > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > >- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > >-- > >Author: Cary Millsap > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > >- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > Regards, Carel-Jan > > === > If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) > === > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Carel-Jan Engel > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
or from the other side: the right one, and the one pig-headed students are convinced is right (even if you can incontrovertably demonstrate they are wrong). Does that make three answers? or two answers with three labels? Henry -Original Message- Carel-Jan Engel Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wasn't it you, Cary, who got tought by his parents that every question has two answers: The right one and the one the teacher wants to hear? And you had to learn them both? That's merely what OCP is about, I think. Get a certificate to get hired, and get the proper knowledge to remain hired ;-) Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === At 07:59 7-1-04 -0800, you wrote: >My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying >what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some >"veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > > >Cary Millsap >Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. >http://www.hotsos.com > >Upcoming events: >- Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta >- SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas >- Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas >- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > >-Original Message- >Prem Khanna J >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Hi Richard , > >Many a thanx for both of your replies . >All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? > >And your reply has increased my self-confidence. >particularly the line : >Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > >You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > >yes Richard : ( >hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. >i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . > >okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . >if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , >what will be your two best answers ? > >Thanks and Regards, >Prem. >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >-- >Author: Prem Khanna J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >-- >Author: Cary Millsap > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Carel-Jan Engel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Poras, Henry R. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Yes, I was the one. I was just wondering whether the OCP performance exam was really as bad as it used to be. I haven't seen it since whatever the things were called back in the early 90s. From some of what I've seen here, the answer is that yes it is the same. Not just philosophically the same, but probably some of the same release 7 questions are still on the test. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -Original Message- Carel-Jan Engel Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wasn't it you, Cary, who got tought by his parents that every question has two answers: The right one and the one the teacher wants to hear? And you had to learn them both? That's merely what OCP is about, I think. Get a certificate to get hired, and get the proper knowledge to remain hired ;-) Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === At 07:59 7-1-04 -0800, you wrote: >My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying >what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some >"veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > > >Cary Millsap >Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. >http://www.hotsos.com > >Upcoming events: >- Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta >- SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas >- Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas >- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > >-Original Message- >Prem Khanna J >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Hi Richard , > >Many a thanx for both of your replies . >All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? > >And your reply has increased my self-confidence. >particularly the line : >Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > >You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > >yes Richard : ( >hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. >i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . > >okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . >if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , >what will be your two best answers ? > >Thanks and Regards, >Prem. >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >-- >Author: Prem Khanna J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >-- >Author: Cary Millsap > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Carel-Jan Engel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, incl
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Wasn't it you, Cary, who got tought by his parents that every question has two answers: The right one and the one the teacher wants to hear? And you had to learn them both? That's merely what OCP is about, I think. Get a certificate to get hired, and get the proper knowledge to remain hired ;-) Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === At 07:59 7-1-04 -0800, you wrote: My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -Original Message- Prem Khanna J Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Richard , Many a thanx for both of your replies . All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? And your reply has increased my self-confidence. particularly the line : Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? yes Richard : ( hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , what will be your two best answers ? Thanks and Regards, Prem. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Carel-Jan Engel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
>From past history: I passed the 8 and 8i exams without having done any work in either version, nor did I study for them. I used Jonathan's method of using later questions to infer the answer to earlier ones, in part. Marlene Theriault, an excellent DBA, took several tries to pass because she knew the correct answers and therefore was usually wrong in the expected answer. :) --- Cary Millsap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying > what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some > "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta > - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas > - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas > - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > > -Original Message- > Prem Khanna J > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Hi Richard , > > Many a thanx for both of your replies . > All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? > > And your reply has increased my self-confidence. > particularly the line : > Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > > You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > > yes Richard : ( > hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. > i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . > > okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . > if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) > , > what will be your two best answers ? > > Thanks and Regards, > Prem. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Prem Khanna J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Cary Millsap > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
Misconceptions, superstitions and myths are always useful to know and believe in. They make people better socialized and the risk of being burnt at stake as a heretic(metaphorically, of course) is much lower. On 01/07/2004 10:59:26 AM, Cary Millsap wrote: > Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some > "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
for performance tuning exam you have to know some garbage. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:59 AM > My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying > what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some > "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta > - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas > - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas > - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... > > > -Original Message- > Prem Khanna J > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Hi Richard , > > Many a thanx for both of your replies . > All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? > > And your reply has increased my self-confidence. > particularly the line : > Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. > > You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? > > yes Richard : ( > hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. > i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . > > okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . > if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , > what will be your two best answers ? > > Thanks and Regards, > Prem. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Prem Khanna J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Cary Millsap > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests
My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some "veneer of false knowledge" specifically in order to pass the exam? Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -Original Message- Prem Khanna J Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Richard , Many a thanx for both of your replies . All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? And your reply has increased my self-confidence. particularly the line : Trust what you *see*, not what you *read*. You actually proven this yourself and yet you still have doubts? yes Richard : ( hope i will not repeat this as time goes and my experience grows. i.e., i will be more confident with my answers . okay , coming back to the sizing of temp tablespace question . if suppose , such a question appears in the exam too ( my bad luck ) , what will be your two best answers ? Thanks and Regards, Prem. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Prem Khanna J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
