RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-16 Thread Sam P. Roberts (ZADCO ITIS)

What's wrong ? All Neena did was give another answer to the original
question - she even said don't do it except in test. 
 
 
 
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Boy, am I tired of people suggesting this kind of thing.  What's the point,
when there are SUPPORTED and SAFE ways of doing what you want?  

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Hi, 
  The suggestion till yet provided are the correct ones and safest. But
try this in your test database, get you table id from sys.obj$ table. Then
get the columns details from sys.col$ table by giving the table id in where
clause. Update the row which corresponds to the column which you want  to
modify. 
  

-- neena 


??? wrote: 


from Oracle 8i 
you can drop columns with -- alter table table_name drop column column_name;

and then your can add columns with the name to which you want to rename 
alter table table_name add(column_name type); 

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In Oracle 
It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead 
use alias for that column name in your queries. 
Or you have to create a new table from existing one 
Drop existing table.And recreate a table by 
selecting from new table. 


Regards 
Bipin 
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread ???

from Oracle 8i
you can drop columns with -- alter table table_name drop column column_name;
and then your can add columns with the name to which you want to rename 
alter table table_name add(column_name type);

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In Oracle
It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
use alias for that column name in your queries.
Or you have to create a new table from existing one
Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
selecting from new table.

Regards
Bipin
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Trassens, Christian

Well, it isn't recommend it but you can update the field name of sys.col$
table.

Regards.

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 In Oracle
 It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
 use alias for that column name in your queries.
 Or you have to create a new table from existing one
 Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
 selecting from new table.
 
 Regards
 Bipin
 --- Heikki Jantunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi all,
  
  I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea
  how to do that...
  
  Thanks in advance,
  
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Services

Sorry sorry

ID-10-T error

Cheers
JL

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Wait wait wait...

Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
compatibility parameter is set

Regards
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In Oracle
It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
use alias for that column name in your queries.
Or you have to create a new table from existing one
Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
selecting from new table.

Regards
Bipin
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 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Ok i'll bite, i try to keep up with the new features and i'm looking at
8i(8.1.7) docs right now and i dont see it, would you like to elaborate?

you can rename a table, rename a partition but NOT rename a column, this
has been on the wish-list for many years just like drop column was.

Feel free to flame me if i'm wrong(it does happen but rarely) :)


joe

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 Wait wait wait...
 
 Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
 compatibility parameter is set
 
 Regards
 JL
 
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 In Oracle
 It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
 use alias for that column name in your queries.
 Or you have to create a new table from existing one
 Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
 selecting from new table.
 
 Regards
 Bipin
 --- Heikki Jantunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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  I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea
  how to do that...
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Services

Hi All

I think I did send one out earlier. Don't bite. 

You can't rename a column. The combatibility parameter issue I was thinking
of has to do with when you want to drop a column in 8i. That I know, has to
be greater or equal to 8.1.0 when you want to drop a column

Sorry again

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Ok i'll bite, i try to keep up with the new features and i'm looking at
8i(8.1.7) docs right now and i dont see it, would you like to elaborate?

you can rename a table, rename a partition but NOT rename a column, this
has been on the wish-list for many years just like drop column was.

Feel free to flame me if i'm wrong(it does happen but rarely) :)


joe

"Johan Locke@i-Commerce Services" wrote:
 
 Wait wait wait...
 
 Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
 compatibility parameter is set
 
 Regards
 JL
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:05 AM
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 In Oracle
 It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
 use alias for that column name in your queries.
 Or you have to create a new table from existing one
 Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
 selecting from new table.
 
 Regards
 Bipin
 --- Heikki Jantunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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  I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea
  how to do that...
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

8i allows dropping a column or marking them as unused. I do not think you
can yet rename a
column. Please provide an example.

Thanks
Rick

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 i think u can't rename a column. it's still under consideration.
 if u can, pls mention with some more specific syntax.
 
 it'll b helpful for all.
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  Wait wait wait...
  
  Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
  compatibility parameter is set
  
  Regards
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  In Oracle
  It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
  use alias for that column name in your queries.
  Or you have to create a new table from existing one
  Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
  selecting from new table.
  
  Regards
  Bipin
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

I didn't find it any of my docs for 8.1.7 either. Is renaming a column
getting confused with dropping a column?

For renaming columns, one has to wait till 9i is a reality, I was told

- Kirti

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 Ok i'll bite, i try to keep up with the new features and i'm looking at
 8i(8.1.7) docs right now and i dont see it, would you like to elaborate?
 
 you can rename a table, rename a partition but NOT rename a column, this
 has been on the wish-list for many years just like drop column was.
 
 Feel free to flame me if i'm wrong(it does happen but rarely) :)
 
 
 joe
 
 "Johan Locke@i-Commerce Services" wrote:
  
  Wait wait wait...
  
  Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
  compatibility parameter is set
  
  Regards
  JL
  
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  In Oracle
  It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
  use alias for that column name in your queries.
  Or you have to create a new table from existing one
  Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
  selecting from new table.
  
  Regards
  Bipin
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Re: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread exu



Below are the steps and examples to rename a table:


1. create a view of the table which  you want to rename its column

vantive desc salgrade;
 NameNull?
Type
 --- 



 GRADE

NUMBER
 LOSAL

NUMBER
 HISAL

NUMBER


vantive create view salgrade_vw as select * from salgrade;

View created.


2. create a new table with new column names, and select  * from the view you
just created.

vantive create table salgrade_new (grade_new, losal_new, hisal_new)
  2  as select * from salgrade_vw;

Table created.

Elapsed: 00:00:00.26
vantive desc salgrade_new;
 NameNull?
Type
 --- 



 GRADE_NEW
NUMBER
 LOSAL_NEW
NUMBER
 HISAL_NEW
NUMBER

3. drop the table which you want to change its column name.

vantive drop table salgrade;

Table dropped.

4. Rename the table which you created on step 3 to the table name which you
dropped on step 3.
vantive alter table salgrade_new rename to salgrade;

Table altered.

Elapsed: 00:00:00.02
vantive desc salgrade;
 NameNull?
Type
 --- 



 GRADE_NEW
NUMBER
 LOSAL_NEW
NUMBER
 HISAL_NEW
NUMBER



By the way, you can also drop the view you created on step 2 now.


Good luck,

Eveleen


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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread Mark Leith

From the 9i New Features Doc -

Online Data Evolution

In this new architecture the contents of the table are copied into a new
table.
While the contents are copied, the updates to the original table are tracked
by the
database. After the copy completes, the updates are applied to the new
table.
Once the updates are applied, indexes can be created on the new table. After
the
indexes are created, any additional updates are applied and the result table
replaces the original table. The table is only locked in exclusive mode at
the
beginning and end of the operation, when the dictionary data is updated.

Using this new architecture, any physical attribute of the table can be
changed
online. The table can be moved to a new location. The table can be
partitioned.
The table can be converted from one organization (e.g. heap) to another
(e.g.
index organized).

Additionally, many logical attributes can be changed. Column names, types,
and
sizes can be changed. Columns can be added, deleted, or merged. The primary
restriction is that the primary key of the table cannot be modified.


-Original Message-
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I didn't find it any of my docs for 8.1.7 either. Is renaming a column
getting confused with dropping a column?

For renaming columns, one has to wait till 9i is a reality, I was told

- Kirti

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph S. Testa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:10 AM
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 Subject:  Re: Renaming a Column

 Ok i'll bite, i try to keep up with the new features and i'm looking at
 8i(8.1.7) docs right now and i dont see it, would you like to elaborate?

 you can rename a table, rename a partition but NOT rename a column, this
 has been on the wish-list for many years just like drop column was.

 Feel free to flame me if i'm wrong(it does happen but rarely) :)


 joe

 "Johan Locke@i-Commerce Services" wrote:
 
  Wait wait wait...
 
  Yes you can rename a column in 8i, it just depends to what value your
  compatibility parameter is set
 
  Regards
  JL
 
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  In Oracle
  It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
  use alias for that column name in your queries.
  Or you have to create a new table from existing one
  Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
  selecting from new table.
 
  Regards
  Bipin
  --- Heikki Jantunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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   I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea
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Re: Renaming a Column

2001-02-14 Thread neena


Hi,
 The suggestion till yet provided are
the correct ones and safest. But try this in your test database,
get you table id from sys.obj$ table. Then get the columns details from
sys.col$ table by giving the table id in where clause. Update the row which
corresponds to the column which you want to modify.

-- neena
??? wrote:
from Oracle 8i
you can drop columns with -- alter table table_name drop column column_name;
and then your can add columns with the name to which you want to rename
alter table table_name add(column_name type);
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In Oracle
It's not possible to rename a column.You can instead
use alias for that column name in your queries.
Or you have to create a new table from existing one
Drop existing table.And recreate a table by
selecting from new table.
Regards
Bipin
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RE: Renaming a column

2001-02-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Have you personally done this in your test database (and may be in your
production database)? 
Are there any 'side effect' as to Oracle may not support any problems it may
create down the road? 
Or this is a perfectly safe operation to 'just do it' ? If so, what type of
'risks' it might have? 
I would like to more about it. 

Thanks,
- Kirti 

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 Subject:  Re:Renaming a column 
 
 
 Hessu,
  In Oracle 8i renamimg of a column is possible. Otherwise there is
 a roundabout method .  As sys  user you have to first find out your
 object's id from obj$ table . And then change the column name from col$
 table by giving the object id . It is risky be careful . First you can
 try on test database . 
 
  Reply.
 
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RE: Renaming a column

2001-02-14 Thread jkstill


Been there, done it.  It's dangerous.  Don't ever do it.

I was lucky and was able to reverse the changes.  I know
and Oracle instructor who was not so lucky and lost a database.

I've heard of other people doing this and it worked properly.

It's usually a bad idea to mess with the data dictionary unless
instructed to do so by OWS.

Jared

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Deshpande, Kirti wrote:

 Have you personally done this in your test database (and may be in your
 production database)?
 Are there any 'side effect' as to Oracle may not support any problems it may
 create down the road?
 Or this is a perfectly safe operation to 'just do it' ? If so, what type of
 'risks' it might have?
 I would like to more about it.

 Thanks,
 - Kirti

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  Hessu,
   In Oracle 8i renamimg of a column is possible. Otherwise there is
  a roundabout method .  As sys  user you have to first find out your
  object's id from obj$ table . And then change the column name from col$
  table by giving the object id . It is risky be careful . First you can
  try on test database .
 
   Reply.
 
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RE: Renaming a column

2001-02-14 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Kirti,

Assuming that your post was not "tongue in cheek", while I don't endorse the
procedure, the Ixora web site has a note about a potential problem with doing
this and how to work around it at http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/dd.htm#31_08_1999.
Please note the disclaimer there too.

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Have you personally done this in your test database (and may be in your
production database)?
Are there any 'side effect' as to Oracle may not support any problems it may
create down the road?
Or this is a perfectly safe operation to 'just do it' ? If so, what type of
'risks' it might have?
I would like to more about it.

Thanks,
- Kirti

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:51 AM
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 Subject:  Re:Renaming a column


 Hessu,
  In Oracle 8i renamimg of a column is possible. Otherwise there is
 a roundabout method .  As sys  user you have to first find out your
 object's id from obj$ table . And then change the column name from col$
 table by giving the object id . It is risky be careful . First you can
 try on test database .

  Reply.

 -- neena

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RE: Renaming a column

2001-02-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Steve,
 Well, it was. I just wanted to see, if the person(s) suggesting such
"ideas" have gone through any consequences of such "techniques". Since I
noticed that there were a few postings suggesting it.
I have read what's on your site and personally played with such "black
magic" myself in my test database. I do not endorse it either. 
Thanks.
- Kirti 


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 Hi Kirti,
 
 Assuming that your post was not "tongue in cheek", while I don't endorse
 the
 procedure, the Ixora web site has a note about a potential problem with
 doing
 this and how to work around it at
 http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/dd.htm#31_08_1999.
 Please note the disclaimer there too.
 
 @   Regards,
 @   Steve Adams
 @   http://www.ixora.com.au/
 @   http://www.christianity.net.au/
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 4:27
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Have you personally done this in your test database (and may be in your
 production database)?
 Are there any 'side effect' as to Oracle may not support any problems it
 may
 create down the road?
 Or this is a perfectly safe operation to 'just do it' ? If so, what type
 of
 'risks' it might have?
 I would like to more about it.
 
 Thanks,
 - Kirti
 
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  Subject:Re:Renaming a column
 
 
  Hessu,
   In Oracle 8i renamimg of a column is possible. Otherwise there
 is
  a roundabout method .  As sys  user you have to first find out your
  object's id from obj$ table . And then change the column name from col$
  table by giving the object id . It is risky be careful . First you can
  try on test database .
 
   Reply.
 
  -- neena
 
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RE: Renaming a Column

2001-02-13 Thread Suhen Pather

Hessu,

One of the ways:

create table newtable (newcolumn1,newcolumn2,newcolumn3,...) 
as select * from oldtable
;

rename newtable to oldtable;


HTH
Suhen



Hi all,

I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea how to do that...

Thanks in advance,

Hessu
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Re: Renaming a Column

2001-02-13 Thread Saurabh Sharma

CREATE THE TABLE AGAIN WITH AS SELECT CLAUSE..
SELECTING ONLY COLUMN DEFINITION WHILE SUPPLYING THE NEW COLUMN NAME URSELF.
apply constraints if any.
reinsert the data from old table. drop old table . rename new table as old
one.
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 Hi all,

 I need to rename some columns on my table. Any idea how to do that...

 Thanks in advance,

 Hessu
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