RE: Third Party Application Madness
Title: RE: Third Party Application Madness That's the situation I'm in now, but the language is Hungarian. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have enough youth. How about a fountain of intelligence? -Original Message- From: Odland, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Third Party Application Madness And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know... I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a problem if you know German... Brad -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride. At least you *have* PKs and FKs... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my pain with the folks that will understand it best. :) The past two weeks have really been 'fun'. [snip] Now, on to the next crisis. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Odland, Brad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Third Party Application Madness
Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride. At least you *have* PKs and FKs... Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my pain with the folks that will understand it best. :) The past two weeks have really been 'fun'. [snip] Now, on to the next crisis. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Third Party Application Madness
And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know... I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a problem if you know German... Brad -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride. At least you *have* PKs and FKs... Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my pain with the folks that will understand it best. :) The past two weeks have really been 'fun'. [snip] Now, on to the next crisis. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Odland, Brad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Third Party Application Madness
Title: RE: Third Party Application Madness Love those COTS - emphasis on customized and not on off the shelf unless you mean with a bulldozer. -Original Message- From: Odland, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Third Party Application Madness And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know... I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a problem if you know German... Brad -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride. At least you *have* PKs and FKs... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my pain with the folks that will understand it best. :) The past two weeks have really been 'fun'. [snip] Now, on to the next crisis. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Odland, Brad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness
Title: RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness Dick, Is that aspirin first then the Jim Beam or Jim Beam first and aspirin the next morning? Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jared, Been there, done that, I'll put a large bottle of aspirin Jim Beam in the mail for you. They help me!! Dick Goulet
Re: Third Party Application Madness
Re PK's and FK's: Yes, I was glad to see that at first, but not so sure now, as it seems that this database has been 'normalized' to a point that even I, a dyed in the wool normalization bigot, find extreme. The 'normalization' is in quotes because I haven't had time see if the schema is actually normalized, or just broken up into a lot more tables. The abundance of outer joins used tends to point to the latter. Jared On Monday 24 February 2003 12:08, Jesse, Rich wrote: Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride. At least you *have* PKs and FKs... Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Jared Still [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Third Party Application Madness In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my pain with the folks that will understand it best. :) The past two weeks have really been 'fun'. [snip] Now, on to the next crisis. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness
Jerry, Depends on the third party application/vendor. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: Whittle Jerome Contr NCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/24/2003 2:02 PM Dick, Is that aspirin first then the Jim Beam or Jim Beam first and aspirin the next morning? Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jared, Been there, done that, I'll put a large bottle of aspirin Jim Beam in the mail for you. They help me!! Dick Goulet !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD TITLERE: RE: Third Party Application Madness/TITLE /HEAD BODY !-- Converted from text/rtf format -- PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT COLOR=#FF SIZE=2 FACE=ArialDick,/FONT/SPAN /P PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT COLOR=#FF SIZE=2 FACE=ArialIs that aspirin first then the Jim Beam or Jim Beam first and aspirin the next morning?/FONT/SPAN /P PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT FACE=ArialJerry Whittle/FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usFONT FACE=ArialASIFICS DBA/FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usFONT FACE=ArialNCI Information Systems Inc./FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usFONT FACE=Arial[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usFONT FACE=Arial618-622-4145/FONT/SPAN /P UL PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT SIZE=1 FACE=Arial-Original Message-/FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usBFONT SIZE=1 FACE=ArialFrom:nbsp;nbsp;/FONT/B FONT SIZE=1 FACE=Arial[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT/SPAN /P PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT SIZE=2 FACE=ArialJared,/FONT/SPAN /P PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT SIZE=2 FACE=Arialnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Been there, done that, I'll put a large bottle of aspirin amp; Jim Beam in the/FONT/SPAN BRSPAN LANG=en-usFONT SIZE=2 FACE=Arialmail for you.nbsp; They help me!!/FONT/SPAN /P PSPAN LANG=en-usFONT SIZE=2 FACE=ArialDick Goulet/FONT/SPAN /P /UL /BODY /HTML -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).