RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-25 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Third Party Application Madness





That's the situation I'm in now, but the
language is Hungarian.



Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have enough youth.
How about a fountain of intelligence?


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Subject: RE: Third Party Application Madness



And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know...


I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a
problem if you know German...


Brad



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Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with
the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride.


At least you *have* PKs and FKs...



Rich


Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA


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In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my
pain with the folks that will understand it best. :)


The past two weeks have really been 'fun'.


[snip]


Now, on to the next crisis.


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RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread Jesse, Rich
Congratulations!  We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with
the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award.  Wear it with pride.

At least you *have* PKs and FKs...


Rich

Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

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In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my
pain with the folks that will understand it best.   :)

The past two weeks have really been 'fun'.

[snip]

Now, on to the next crisis.

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RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread Odland, Brad
And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know...

I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a
problem if you know German...

Brad


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Congratulations!  We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with
the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award.  Wear it with pride.

At least you *have* PKs and FKs...


Rich

Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my
pain with the folks that will understand it best.   :)

The past two weeks have really been 'fun'.

[snip]

Now, on to the next crisis.

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RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Third Party Application Madness





Love those COTS - emphasis on customized and not on off the shelf unless you mean with a bulldozer.


-Original Message-
From: Odland, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Third Party Application Madness



And the table and column names hopefully are in a language you know...


I ran into a app that the table names and columns were in German. Not a
problem if you know German...


Brad



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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:13 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Congratulations! We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with
the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award. Wear it with pride.


At least you *have* PKs and FKs...



Rich


Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA


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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM
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In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my
pain with the folks that will understand it best. :)


The past two weeks have really been 'fun'.


[snip]


Now, on to the next crisis.


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RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness






Dick,


Is that aspirin first then the Jim Beam or Jim Beam first and aspirin the next morning?


Jerry Whittle

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Jared,


 Been there, done that, I'll put a large bottle of aspirin  Jim Beam in the

mail for you. They help me!!


Dick Goulet





Re: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread Jared Still

Re PK's and FK's:

Yes, I was glad to see that at first, but not so sure
now, as it seems that this database has been 'normalized'
to a point that even I, a dyed in the wool normalization bigot,
find extreme.

The 'normalization' is in quotes because I haven't had time 
see if the schema is actually normalized, or just broken up
into a lot more tables.  

The abundance of outer joins used tends to point to the latter.

Jared

On Monday 24 February 2003 12:08, Jesse, Rich wrote:
 Congratulations!  We, the Annointed Members present you, Jared Still, with
 the Sadistic Vendor Setup Purple Heart award.  Wear it with pride.

 At least you *have* PKs and FKs...


 Rich

 Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

 -Original Message-
 From: Jared Still [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Third Party Application Madness



 In need of cathartic release, I find myself sharing my
 pain with the folks that will understand it best.   :)

 The past two weeks have really been 'fun'.

 [snip]

 Now, on to the next crisis.

 Jared
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Re:RE: RE: Third Party Application Madness

2003-02-24 Thread dgoulet
Jerry,

Depends on the third party application/vendor.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Whittle Jerome Contr NCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   2/24/2003 2:02 PM

Dick,

Is that aspirin first then the Jim Beam or Jim Beam first and aspirin the next
morning?

Jerry Whittle
ASIFICS DBA
NCI Information Systems Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
618-622-4145

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 Jared,
 
 Been there, done that, I'll put a large bottle of aspirin  Jim Beam in
the
 mail for you.  They help me!!
 
 Dick Goulet
 

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