Re: Unix research source ???
1) Solaris http://docs.sun.com 2) Linux http://www.linux.org/docs/index.html 3) AIX http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/library/sp_books/index.html 4) Got questions: try Google at http://www.google.com 5) There's more out there but these sites are a good start. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting Andrea Oracle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > Does Unix has an on-line research source, like > metalink for Oracle? Pls send me the links. Much > appreciated. > > Also is Linux pretty similar to Unix. What's the > major difference? > > Thank you in advance! > > Andrea > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Andrea Oracle > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > may > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > -- Lyndon Tiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
Andrea On the difference between Unix and Linux, here is how I understand it: All UNIX versions are derived from an AT&T code base (not sure who owns it now). All Unix vendors must pay a small royalty back to the code owners. Linux was developed independently by many developers (not just Linus, but he has been a good publicity focus) as a freeware code base independent of Unix, but identical to Unix in function. The following link explains it all: http://ragib.hypermart.net/linux/ Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Does Unix has an on-line research source, like metalink for Oracle? Pls send me the links. Much appreciated. Also is Linux pretty similar to Unix. What's the major difference? Thank you in advance! Andrea __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Andrea Oracle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
The word "Unix" is a trademark, but it gets used in a generic manner much like the word "Band-Aid" is used to refer to any kind of plastic bandage, or the way "Jell-O" gets used to refer to any kind of flavored gelatin. It was originally owned by Bell Labs. It has bounced around a little bit -- Novell owned it for a while. So you see IBM's OS called AIX, not Unix. And you see Sun's OS called Solaris, not Unix. And you see HP's OS called HPUX, not Unix ... except now HP also has Tru64 ->UNIX<- (OY!). So, I guess we all know who eventually ended up owning the Unix trademark (as far as I know). Any OS that comes with the same set of utilities and, on the surface, looks like Unix, gets called Unix by non-sys admin users, even though there is only one vendor that can legally call its OS Unix. AIX, Solaris, HPUX, and Linux are NOT Unix; and you're not likely to see an experienced sys admin call them Unix. These other OS's have their own source code for their kernels. They come with, more or less, the same set of utilities, and the non-sys admin users interact with them in a similar manner but, under the covers, they are not the same, and they are not Unix. You might see some references to System V (Roman number 5) versus BSD (Berkeley). As a user, the only real affect this has is in which bundled utilities you get, in which directory they are located, and the differences in how the utilities work. For example on a pure BSD system you show the processes on a box with "ps aux"; on pure System V (you usually see it as SVr4) you run "ps -ef"; and you get different output. Some OS's will have a ps command that supports either syntax. And some OS's will have a Sys V version of the command in one directory and a BSD version of the command in another directory. What you, the user, are seeing and interacting with is not the OS, but the shell and the bundled utilities. When you are among snotty techno-geeks, keep that distinction clear and save yourself from some ridicule. For a metalink-like site: Sun has its SunSolve site (http://sunsolve.sun.com). Sun used to (and I would guess still does) periodically send out a CD to customers who contracted for support with much of the SunSolve stuff on it. Remember that the OS is distinct from all the utilities that get bundled with the OS, and these sites are there primarily to deal with the OS, not the bundled utilities. > -Original Message- > > Does Unix has an on-line research source, like > metalink for Oracle? Pls send me the links. Much > appreciated. > > Also is Linux pretty similar to Unix. What's the > major difference? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
Very detailed explaination. Actually Sun's OS is SunOS, Solaris is an environment that's consist of SunOS + Openwin. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The word "Unix" is a trademark, but it gets used in a generic manner much like the word "Band-Aid" is used to refer to any kind of plastic bandage, or the way "Jell-O" gets used to refer to any kind of flavored gelatin. It was originally owned by Bell Labs. It has bounced around a little bit -- Novell owned it for a while. So you see IBM's OS called AIX, not Unix. And you see Sun's OS called Solaris, not Unix. And you see HP's OS called HPUX, not Unix ... except now HP also has Tru64 ->UNIX<- (OY!). So, I guess we all know who eventually ended up owning the Unix trademark (as far as I know). Any OS that comes with the same set of utilities and, on the surface, looks like Unix, gets called Unix by non-sys admin users, even though there is only one vendor that can legally call its OS Unix. AIX, Solaris, HPUX, and Linux are NOT Unix; and you're not likely to see an experienced sys admin call them Unix. These other OS's have their own source code for their kernels. They come with, more or less, the same set of utilities, and the non-sys admin users interact with them in a similar manner but, under the covers, they are not the same, and they are not Unix. You might see some references to System V (Roman number 5) versus BSD (Berkeley). As a user, the only real affect this has is in which bundled utilities you get, in which directory they are located, and the differences in how the utilities work. For example on a pure BSD system you show the processes on a box with "ps aux"; on pure System V (you usually see it as SVr4) you run "ps -ef"; and you get different output. Some OS's will have a ps command that supports either syntax. And some OS's will have a Sys V version of the command in one directory and a BSD version of the command in another directory. What you, the user, are seeing and interacting with is not the OS, but the shell and the bundled utilities. When you are among snotty techno-geeks, keep that distinction clear and save yourself from some ridicule. For a metalink-like site: Sun has its SunSolve site (http://sunsolve.sun.com). Sun used to (and I would guess still does) periodically send out a CD to customers who contracted for support with much of the SunSolve stuff on it. Remember that the OS is distinct from all the utilities that get bundled with the OS, and these sites are there primarily to deal with the OS, not the bundled utilities. > -Original Message- > > Does Unix has an on-line research source, like > metalink for Oracle? Pls send me the links. Much > appreciated. > > Also is Linux pretty similar to Unix. What's the > major difference? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Ji INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
Difference between Unix and Linux is $$$. -- Lyndon Tiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
Quoting Richard Ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Very detailed explaination. Actually Sun's OS is SunOS, > Solaris is an environment that's consist of SunOS + Openwin. > Update: Solaris = SunOS + GNOME. OpenWin is gone. CDE is just there for backup but GNOME is the official desktop now. -- Lyndon Tiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
No. They are both free. BSD is basically pure ATT unix; Linux is a kernel with GNU's tools thrown on. On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Lyndon Tiu wrote: > Difference between Unix and Linux is $$$. > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Lyndon Tiu > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Alex INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
>Any OS that comes with the same set of utilities and, on the surface, >looks like Unix, gets called Unix by non-sys admin users, even though >there is only one vendor that can legally call its OS Unix. AIX, >Solaris, HPUX, and Linux are NOT Unix; and you're not likely to see an >experienced sys admin call them Unix. Unless we're talking to the 99% of humanity who give us funny looks for being pedantic about the 'unix-like' OS we happen to be supporting this month. Or we're sending our out our "HR resume" (as opposed to our "Technical Manager" resume). It's damned annoying to have an HR drone assume you can't do the job because they are filling for "Solaris 8" and you've got on your reusme "SunOS 2.8, Linux, AIX, BSD etc." -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
OH yea, thanks for point that out. Forgot aobut the GNOME stuff. Guess which one I like between GNOME and KDE? (hint, hint). :) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Quoting Richard Ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Very detailed explaination. Actually Sun's OS is SunOS, > Solaris is an environment that's consist of SunOS + Openwin. > Update: Solaris = SunOS + GNOME. OpenWin is gone. CDE is just there for backup but GNOME is the official desktop now. -- Lyndon Tiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Ji INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
I thought a little about my response and it occurred to me that my point might have gotten lost in the details. The point was that the asker of the question might want to refine the question. That is, was the intent to ask about a particular OS; or was the intent to ask about a particular utility; or was the asker just wanting to get a general overview of how a user works with a unix-like OS? If the question is about a particular utility and how that utility might be used in working with Oracle, there is quite a bit of knowledge about such things on this list. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
CDE? DECWindows? > -Original Message- > From: Richard Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:59 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Unix research source ??? > > > OH yea, thanks for point that out. Forgot aobut the GNOME stuff. > Guess which one I like between GNOME and KDE? (hint, hint). :) > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Quoting Richard Ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Very detailed explaination. Actually Sun's OS is SunOS, > > Solaris is an environment that's consist of SunOS + Openwin. > > > > Update: Solaris = SunOS + GNOME. OpenWin is gone. CDE is just > there for > backup > but GNOME is the official desktop now. > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Lyndon Tiu > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Richard Ji > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).