RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-07-02 Thread Niall Litchfield
Jared wrote
 Which reminds me, I somehow missed that when cloning a
 SAP db last weekend.  Guess I'll go fix it now.
Surely one of those things is more than enough :( 

Niall 

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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-07-02 Thread Jared . Still
At the moment I have 5, more to come.

What fun.






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Jared wrote
 Which reminds me, I somehow missed that when cloning a
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Surely one of those things is more than enough :( 

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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-07-01 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Even the global_name can be different from the SID and db_name.

Everytime I clone a database from a hot backup the SID name is different 
but the db_name is the same till I
complete the recovery. Then I change the db_name as well.  9 times out of 
10, I forget to change the global_name --
fortunately it doesn't matter as I am not using Advanced Replication.
Hemant

At 12:59 PM 30-06-03 -0800, you wrote:
Actually folks, we've promogulated this idea that a SID and a database 
name have to be the same.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.  In a 
recent attempt to make a new copy of our PeopleSoft database from a BCV 
copy I found that you can have a different name for the database from the 
SID.  And wouldn't you believe it, the 9i DBCA supports that 
idea??  Therefore you could have a SID on empprod and a name of emp_prod 
with no trouble.  Actually I found a good reason to go back to my old 
methods of using numbers as SIDs. Why, the JDBC driver.  SIDs should be 
NON case sensitive as they once were in SQL*Net V1.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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I think it will allow under score as part of SID name but it is not 
recommended.

Thanks,
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
'emp_prod' is allowed?
No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.

--Senthil.

Thanks,
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Re: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-07-01 Thread Jared Still

Which reminds me, I somehow missed that when cloning a
SAP db last weekend.  Guess I'll go fix it now.


On Tuesday 01 July 2003 08:34, Hemant K Chitale wrote:
 Even the global_name can be different from the SID and db_name.

 Everytime I clone a database from a hot backup the SID name is different
 but the db_name is the same till I
 complete the recovery. Then I change the db_name as well.  9 times out of
 10, I forget to change the global_name --
 fortunately it doesn't matter as I am not using Advanced Replication.
 Hemant

 At 12:59 PM 30-06-03 -0800, you wrote:
 Actually folks, we've promogulated this idea that a SID and a database
 name have to be the same.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.  In a
 recent attempt to make a new copy of our PeopleSoft database from a BCV
 copy I found that you can have a different name for the database from the
 SID.  And wouldn't you believe it, the 9i DBCA supports that
 idea??  Therefore you could have a SID on empprod and a name of emp_prod
 with no trouble.  Actually I found a good reason to go back to my old
 methods of using numbers as SIDs. Why, the JDBC driver.  SIDs should be
 NON case sensitive as they once were in SQL*Net V1.
 
 Dick Goulet
 Senior Oracle DBA
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA
 
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 I think it will allow under score as part of SID name but it is not
 recommended.
 
 Thanks,
 Ashoke
 
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 What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?
 
 1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
 'emp_prod' is allowed?
 
 No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.
 
 2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?
 
 8 chars
 
 3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?
 
 8chars
 
 4. Is there any other restrictions?
 
 SID names should be unique.
 
 
 --Senthil.
 
 
 Thanks,
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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ashoke
   The problem with long SID names or special characters is that the SID is
used in a lot of circumstances. For example, on Unix systems, you end up
with other characters being concatenated with the SID and this becomes a
process name (as in lgwr_ora_$ORACLE_SID). So the issue isn't entirely
within Oracle's control. The recommendation has traditionally been to keep
it to 4 or 5 characters, strictly alphanumeric. The danger is that you will
get the instance created just fine and then somewhere later encounter a
situation where your special SID exceeds something else's limits. Hitting
issues like this is why the more experienced DBAs tend also to be fairly
conservative. Usually you have to solve enough problems without creating
your own.

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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
'emp_prod' is allowed?

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

4. Is there any other restrictions?



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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Goulet, Dick
Ashoke,

As far as I know, 1) YES
2) depends on your version of Unix.
3) Don't use Windows as a server platform.


Dick Goulet
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' 
is allowed?

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

4. Is there any other restrictions?



Thanks,
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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Senthil Kumar D
What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


Thanks,
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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Singh Pushpinder

Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' 
is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


Thanks,
Ashoke

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Re: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Joe Testa
oh and the stupid reason why???

8.3 filenames, init1234.ora

joe

Singh Pushpinder wrote:

Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
Inder
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.

--Senthil.

Thanks,
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Re: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Joe Testa
3).  it was 3 for stupid dos/windows platforms way back when i was doing 
v5 on 386 PC.

joe

Singh Pushpinder wrote:

Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.

--Senthil.

Thanks,
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Re: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Joe Testa
dh, i meant 4 init1234.ora,  i should just quit this field.

joe

Joe Testa wrote:

3).  it was 3 for stupid dos/windows platforms way back when i was 
doing v5 on 386 PC.

joe

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Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
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1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID 
name 'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.

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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Mandal, Ashoke
I think it will allow under score as part of SID name but it is not recommended.

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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Goulet, Dick
Actually folks, we've promogulated this idea that a SID and a database name have to be 
the same.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.  In a recent attempt to make a new 
copy of our PeopleSoft database from a BCV copy I found that you can have a different 
name for the database from the SID.  And wouldn't you believe it, the 9i DBCA supports 
that idea??  Therefore you could have a SID on empprod and a name of emp_prod with no 
trouble.  Actually I found a good reason to go back to my old methods of using numbers 
as SIDs. Why, the JDBC driver.  SIDs should be NON case sensitive as they once were in 
SQL*Net V1.

Dick Goulet
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I think it will allow under score as part of SID name but it is not recommended.

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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name
'emp_prod' is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Nick Wagner
my test environment is an Oracle 9.2.0 database running on Windows 2000 and it's SID 6 
characters.ORA920 :)  



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Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' 
is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


Thanks,
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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Richard Ji
The maximum length for SID varies depends on Oracle versions
and platforms.  Check your doc.

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my test environment is an Oracle 9.2.0 database running on Windows 2000 and it's SID 6 
characters.ORA920 :)  



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Hi Kumar,

3) I believe it is 4 chars.

Thanks,
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What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' 
is allowed?

No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?

8 chars

3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?

8chars

4. Is there any other restrictions?

SID names should be unique.


--Senthil.


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Re: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread bulbultyagi
DB_NAME specifies a database identifier of up to 8 characters.
The following characters are valid in a database name: alphanumeric
characters,
underscore (_), number sign (#), and dollar sign ($). No other
characters are valid.
Oracle removes double quotation marks before processing the database
name.
Therefore you cannot use double quotation marks to embed other
characters in the
name. The database name is case insensitive.  In fact cannot use
non-ASCII characters in a database name and in the create database
statement.  For example cannot use special characters from european \
asian character sets like characters with umlauts.


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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
And clarifying point 1 - at least the underscore is allowed in database and instance 
names. EMP_PROD would be a valid database and instance name.

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 What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?
 
 1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. Is 
  a SID name
 'emp_prod' is allowed?
 
 No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.

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RE: What are the restrictions in naming an Oracle SID/Database?

2003-06-30 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
With Oracle 8.1 and above you can have database names and instance names that are at 
least 8 characters long using Windows NT or 2000. I currently have several databases 
with 8-character database and instance names, in Oracle 8.1, 9.0, 8.2 on Windows NT 
and Windows 2000.

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 oh and the stupid reason why???
 
 8.3 filenames, init1234.ora
 
 Singh Pushpinder wrote:
 
 Hi Kumar,
 
 3) I believe it is 4 chars.
 
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 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 What are the restriction in naming an Oracle SID/Database?
 
 1. Can I have special character in SID/Database name? e.g. 
 Is  a SID name 'emp_prod' is allowed?
 
 No You can not use spl char's. SID name should be in alpha's.
 
 2. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Unix?
 
 8 chars
 
 3. What is the maximum size of a SID/Database name in Windows?
 
 8chars
 
 4. Is there any other restrictions?
 
 SID names should be unique.
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