Re: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-22 Thread Don Granaman

For a cold backup, simply shut down all Oracle instances accessing the
database to be backed up.  There is no need to shut down any Sun or Veritos
cluster services.

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> Hi all,
>
> I want to perform Oracle cold backup,
>
> Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
> partitions are not mounted.
>
> How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to
shutdown
> my Oracle with mounted partitions)
>
>
>
> Best Regards
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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-22 Thread Sinardy

Hi Don Granaman,

If I shutdown Oracle, My cluster daemon will startup it back automatically.

Regards,

sinardy



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For a cold backup, simply shut down all Oracle instances accessing the
database to be backed up.  There is no need to shut down any Sun or Veritos
cluster services.

-Don Granaman
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> Hi all,
>
> I want to perform Oracle cold backup,
>
> Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
> partitions are not mounted.
>
> How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to
shutdown
> my Oracle with mounted partitions)
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sinardy
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Re: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-22 Thread deshmukh


I don't see any problem in stopping Oracle Database and keep the cluster
running. Stop the database from svrmgr prompt on all nodes using just
shutdown normal/immediate and don't execute anything related to cluster.
This way u will have access to all shared storage (raw / filesystems) and
your database is down for cold backup.
Now, if u are using raw shared device, then the backup cab be taken through
'dd' and if u are using filesystems, then u can use anything u want.

DESHMUKH SAMBHAJI S
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Hi all,

I want to perform Oracle cold backup,

Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
partitions are not mounted.

How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to shutdown
my Oracle with mounted partitions)



Best Regards

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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-22 Thread Sinardy

Hi,

If I shutdown my database, sun cluster will automatically startup it within
a second.

Regrads,
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I don't see any problem in stopping Oracle Database and keep the cluster
running. Stop the database from svrmgr prompt on all nodes using just
shutdown normal/immediate and don't execute anything related to cluster.
This way u will have access to all shared storage (raw / filesystems) and
your database is down for cold backup.
Now, if u are using raw shared device, then the backup cab be taken through
'dd' and if u are using filesystems, then u can use anything u want.

DESHMUKH SAMBHAJI S
"Let's Document it and Call it a Future !"



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I want to perform Oracle cold backup,

Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
partitions are not mounted.

How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to shutdown
my Oracle with mounted partitions)



Best Regards

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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread deshmukh


This should be the case with DLM. Usually DLM goes down and comes up along
with the cluster. To make this happen u have to execute following command

scadmin clustername ?U filename i.e. clustername.ora_cdb

Once u execute above command, they say DLM is registered with the cluster
and the DLM goes down and comes up with the cluster automatically. But I
don't know what happens when u stop DLM using some DLM command, whether
cluster automatically senses it and brings it up within a second or so.

I think something similar is configured for db_startup scripts on your
cluster. I don't know how it is done for db_startup.

Please check in /etc/opt/SUNWconf/conf/cluster_name.ora_cdb
and /etc/opt/SUNWconf/conf/cluster_name.cdb

U may find something related to this in these configuration files. Read the
commented part also.


DESHMUKH SAMBHAJI S

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Hi,

If I shutdown my database, sun cluster will automatically startup it within
a second.

Regrads,
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I don't see any problem in stopping Oracle Database and keep the cluster
running. Stop the database from svrmgr prompt on all nodes using just
shutdown normal/immediate and don't execute anything related to cluster.
This way u will have access to all shared storage (raw / filesystems) and
your database is down for cold backup.
Now, if u are using raw shared device, then the backup cab be taken through
'dd' and if u are using filesystems, then u can use anything u want.

DESHMUKH SAMBHAJI S
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I want to perform Oracle cold backup,

Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
partitions are not mounted.

How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to shutdown
my Oracle with mounted partitions)



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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread tday6

Don't know if this will work with Sun but with HP we would stop the
database and the cluster (single script), then mount the filesystem
locally.  Hope it helps.


   

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Hi Don Granaman,

 If I shutdown Oracle, My cluster daemon will startup it back
automatically.

Regards,

sinardy



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For a cold backup, simply shut down all Oracle instances accessing the
database to be backed up.  There is no need to shut down any Sun or Veritos
cluster services.

-Don Granaman
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> Hi all,
>
> I want to perform Oracle cold backup,
>
> Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those
clustered
> partitions are not mounted.
>
> How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to
shutdown
> my Oracle with mounted partitions)
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sinardy
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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread Kimberly Smith

The whole point of clustering is that if your database crashes it is to
automatically fail over to the other side, therefore making it impossible to
shutdown your database.  

Something I just thought of though is that I some times edit my
startup/shutdown scripts so that
maintenance is performed on failover.  You could try the same I would guess
in Sun.

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For a cold backup, simply shut down all Oracle instances accessing the
database to be backed up.  There is no need to shut down any Sun or Veritos
cluster services.

-Don Granaman
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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi all,
>
> I want to perform Oracle cold backup,
>
> Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
> partitions are not mounted.
>
> How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to
shutdown
> my Oracle with mounted partitions)
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sinardy
>
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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread Kimberly Smith

The way I would do any maintence on my databases running on HP ServiceGuard
is to 
temporarily take them out of monitoring so that they can't fail over.  In HP
you
can bring each component up separately.  However, this is not a task I would
undertake
just for cold backups.  I am more then happy with just hot backups.  I can
recover from
them just as easily as a cold.

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Hi all,

I want to perform Oracle cold backup,

Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
partitions are not mounted.

How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to shutdown
my Oracle with mounted partitions)



Best Regards

Sinardy

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RE: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread Austin, Steve S

I believe under the version we use, it's simply

haoracle stop

to stop the Oracle monitoring.  Then you can run your cold backup, and
restart the monitoring afterwards with

haoracle start


Of course, I think we're a major rev behind, and all the "ha*" commands were
moving to the scadmin format.  This is probably enough to get you pointed
the right way?

Steve

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Hi all,

I want to perform Oracle cold backup,

Since I am using Sun Cluster 2.2, after I stop my cluster, those clustered
partitions are not mounted.

How can I shutdown my database while my cluster is working (How to shutdown
my Oracle with mounted partitions)



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Re: backup Oracle on Sun Cluster 2.2 ???

2001-07-23 Thread Don Granaman

Sorry, I was thinking of Sun PDB Cluster 2.2 for OPS, not the HA cluster.
No experience there...

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> The whole point of clustering is that if your database crashes it is to
> automatically fail over to the other side, therefore making it impossible
to
> shutdown your database.
>
> Something I just thought of though is that I some times edit my
> startup/shutdown scripts so that
> maintenance is performed on failover.  You could try the same I would
guess
> in Sun.
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> For a cold backup, simply shut down all Oracle instances accessing the
> database to be backed up.  There is no need to shut down any Sun or
Veritos
> cluster services.
>
> -Don Granaman
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