RE: cache settings NT

2002-09-08 Thread GKor

thanks for your explanation, i'll go for the 0% read - 100% write cache.

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> That's why you use write cache only if it's "battery supported".  Then it
> should be safe.
> 
> Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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> >
> > I'll take a shot at this.
> >
> > Don't have any write caching.  Oracle may think that it has safely
> > committed the transactions and they are written to disk when they are in
> > fact only in cache.  If the machine were to shut down ungracefully,
> i.e.,
> > someone kicks out the plug, then your database would not be in a
> consistent
> > state.  Granted, the odds are small, but is it worth the risk?  If the
> > database is archived and you don't mind the increased chance of having
> to
> > do a recovery then I would say 0% read - 100% write.  Oracle is doing
> it's
> > own read caching in the SGA and it's unlikely that the disk cache will
> > correctly anticipate Oracle's read requirements.  Therefore, caching on
> the
> > read side is only likely to increase IO.  Write caching does not lead to
> > any increased IO but it does have some small risk of producing an
> > inconsistent database.
> >
> >
> >
> > GKor
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> > 09/06/2002
> > 04:18 AM
> > Please
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have the following question for you :
> >
> > what are the preferred values for the several cache settings on the
> fysical
> > disk units (NT W2K)
> >
> > e.g. 100 % read cache - 0 % write cache
> > 50%   read cache - 50% write cache
> >
> > is there a difference between settings for an OLTP or DSS solution.
> >
> > etc
> >
> > anyone with an explanation
> >
> > vr. gr.
> > g.g. kor
> > rdw ict groningen
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Re: cache settings NT

2002-09-06 Thread Igor Neyman

That's why you use write cache only if it's "battery supported".  Then it
should be safe.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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>
> I'll take a shot at this.
>
> Don't have any write caching.  Oracle may think that it has safely
> committed the transactions and they are written to disk when they are in
> fact only in cache.  If the machine were to shut down ungracefully, i.e.,
> someone kicks out the plug, then your database would not be in a
consistent
> state.  Granted, the odds are small, but is it worth the risk?  If the
> database is archived and you don't mind the increased chance of having to
> do a recovery then I would say 0% read - 100% write.  Oracle is doing it's
> own read caching in the SGA and it's unlikely that the disk cache will
> correctly anticipate Oracle's read requirements.  Therefore, caching on
the
> read side is only likely to increase IO.  Write caching does not lead to
> any increased IO but it does have some small risk of producing an
> inconsistent database.
>
>
>
> GKor
> @rdw.nl  To: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: rootcc:
>  Subject: cache settings NT
>
> 09/06/2002
> 04:18 AM
> Please
> respond to
> ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> I have the following question for you :
>
> what are the preferred values for the several cache settings on the
fysical
> disk units (NT W2K)
>
> e.g. 100 % read cache - 0 % write cache
> 50%   read cache - 50% write cache
>
> is there a difference between settings for an OLTP or DSS solution.
>
> etc
>
> anyone with an explanation
>
> vr. gr.
> g.g. kor
> rdw ict groningen
>
>
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Re: cache settings NT

2002-09-06 Thread Thomas Day


I'll take a shot at this.

Don't have any write caching.  Oracle may think that it has safely
committed the transactions and they are written to disk when they are in
fact only in cache.  If the machine were to shut down ungracefully, i.e.,
someone kicks out the plug, then your database would not be in a consistent
state.  Granted, the odds are small, but is it worth the risk?  If the
database is archived and you don't mind the increased chance of having to
do a recovery then I would say 0% read - 100% write.  Oracle is doing it's
own read caching in the SGA and it's unlikely that the disk cache will
correctly anticipate Oracle's read requirements.  Therefore, caching on the
read side is only likely to increase IO.  Write caching does not lead to
any increased IO but it does have some small risk of producing an
inconsistent database.


   

GKor   

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Hi all

I have the following question for you :

what are the preferred values for the several cache settings on the fysical
disk units (NT W2K)

e.g. 100 % read cache - 0 % write cache
50%   read cache - 50% write cache

is there a difference between settings for an OLTP or DSS solution.

etc

anyone with an explanation

vr. gr.
g.g. kor
rdw ict groningen


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