RE: who writes the OCP tests?
Not I, never even seen the questions to tell you the truth. I believe there's an email address you can raise exam issues with - [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might want to send this to them to see if they have more relevant feedback than I'd ever have on this exam. Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L all oracle employees? Are any of you involved in the 9i PL/SQL test? I just took it today and passed it. I didnt study at all. Id like to state that it is an incredibly stupid test. Ive been told the PErformance tuning one is bad also... Some gripes: 1. Only package that I was asked about was dbms_lob and of the 66 questions maybe 5-7 were on this package so about 10%. 2. 40-50% of the test was on triggers. A bit disproportionate dont you think? 3. I was asked about 6-8 questions on how to call procedures and functions and they slipped in a few defaults to 'trick' you. That is WAY too many. 4. Nothing on Arrays, PL/SQL tables, Bulk Binds, or dynamic sql. 5. In my overview it said I need to study the following(but they never asked me about them) UTL_TCP, UTL_HTTP, dbms_ddl. DBMS_DDL is antiquated and I cant think of anything I need it for. I wrap everything in execute immediate(which wasnt on the test). How many people actually use UTL_TCP and UTL_HTTP anyway? I dont. Far more people use other features that werent covered. im done griping. This was REALLY bad. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: who writes the OCP tests?
Probably a Sybase DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L all oracle employees? Are any of you involved in the 9i PL/SQL test? I just took it today and passed it. I didnt study at all. Id like to state that it is an incredibly stupid test. Ive been told the PErformance tuning one is bad also... Some gripes: 1. Only package that I was asked about was dbms_lob and of the 66 questions maybe 5-7 were on this package so about 10%. 2. 40-50% of the test was on triggers. A bit disproportionate dont you think? 3. I was asked about 6-8 questions on how to call procedures and functions and they slipped in a few defaults to 'trick' you. That is WAY too many. 4. Nothing on Arrays, PL/SQL tables, Bulk Binds, or dynamic sql. 5. In my overview it said I need to study the following(but they never asked me about them) UTL_TCP, UTL_HTTP, dbms_ddl. DBMS_DDL is antiquated and I cant think of anything I need it for. I wrap everything in execute immediate(which wasnt on the test). How many people actually use UTL_TCP and UTL_HTTP anyway? I dont. Far more people use other features that werent covered. im done griping. This was REALLY bad. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: who writes the OCP tests?
But now since you've discussed whats on the test, the oracle police will come and confiscate your certified copy of your completion certificate. bwahahahahaha Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all oracle employees? Are any of you involved in the 9i PL/SQL test? I just took it today and passed it. I didnt study at all. Id like to state that it is an incredibly stupid test. Ive been told the PErformance tuning one is bad also... Some gripes: 1. Only package that I was asked about was dbms_lob and of the 66 questions maybe 5-7 were on this package so about 10%. 2. 40-50% of the test was on triggers. A bit disproportionate dont you think? 3. I was asked about 6-8 questions on how to call procedures and functions and they slipped in a few defaults to 'trick' you. That is WAY too many. 4. Nothing on Arrays, PL/SQL tables, Bulk Binds, or dynamic sql. 5. In my overview it said I need to study the following(but they never asked me about them) UTL_TCP, UTL_HTTP, dbms_ddl. DBMS_DDL is antiquated and I cant think of anything I need it for. I wrap everything in execute immediate(which wasnt on the test). How many people actually use UTL_TCP and UTL_HTTP anyway? I dont. Far more people use other features that werent covered. im done griping. This was REALLY bad. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: who writes the OCP tests?
I am using utl_tcp as we speak to send feeds out to our customers ... encrypted of course. We have a program that uses utl_http to go to espn.com, fetch data, filter out what we need and use that to populate the database. Yes, we do use it ... but I am not Oracle employee. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DBMS_DDL is antiquated and I cant think of anything I need it for. I wrap everything in execute immediate(which wasnt on the test). How many people actually use UTL_TCP and UTL_HTTP anyway? I dont. Far more people use other features that werent covered. im done griping. This was REALLY bad. ** This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. **4 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jamadagni, Rajendra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: who writes the OCP tests?
my point is that relative to 'execute immediate' how many people use utl_tcp? execute immediate isnt on the exam at all. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:04 PM I am using utl_tcp as we speak to send feeds out to our customers ... encrypted of course. We have a program that uses utl_http to go to espn.com, fetch data, filter out what we need and use that to populate the database. Yes, we do use it ... but I am not Oracle employee. Raj -- -- Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DBMS_DDL is antiquated and I cant think of anything I need it for. I wrap everything in execute immediate(which wasnt on the test). How many people actually use UTL_TCP and UTL_HTTP anyway? I dont. Far more people use other features that werent covered. im done griping. This was REALLY bad. ** This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. **4 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jamadagni, Rajendra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
