RE: wierd wait event - library cache load lock

2003-07-09 Thread Henry Poras
John,
Thanks. I forgot all about LAST_DDL_TIME. Of course this hasn't happened
again, but at least I've got a strategy if/when it does.

Henry


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John Kanagaraj
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:10 PM
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Henry,

These locks should normally occur when dependent objects needs to be
compiled (internally by the kernel or externally by scripts) on account of
invalidations. This problem is magnified in large ERP packages which
exhibits lots of dependencies and objects. Since you mention that this is
just moving into Production, you are probably experiencing a lot of
last-minute changes that are causing this. The only way of controlling this
is by scheduling changes to off-hours (even in Dev/UA), and most certainly
in Production. Sort DBA_OBJECTS by LAST_DDL_TIME to check which objects
changed. You could also write an ON DDL trigger to log details of who
modified which object from where and at what time.

You could look at ML Note 62143.1 'Understanding and Tuning the Shared Pool'
to understand the intricacies of the Shared pool.

If this is not due to invalidations, then it could be on account of a number
of shared pool related bugs (don't know what version you are on).

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

Great, uplifting music - http://www.klove.com

** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my
employer or clients **


 -Original Message-
 From: Henry Poras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:06 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: wierd wait event - library cache load lock


 We have a PeopleSoft system (Finanacials) that is just moving into
 production. Some of the conversion and data entry stuff was
 running slowly
 so I peaked at our system and session wait events (as well as
 looking at
 some recent history with statspack). There was  a huge amount
 of time_waited
 for 'library cache load lock'. Never came across this one
 before. According
 to the Docs, it is a lock used to load an object into the
 library cache (you
 don't want the same object loaded more than once). I am
 trying to find more
 information so I can debug this. Of course the problem isn't
 there today
 (other modules are being worked on. Maybe that is why).

 Just trying to be ready when/if this happens again. I'm
 thinking a 10046
 trace might give me some object information about what is being
 loaded/locked. Metalink suggests taking a systemstate dump
 (though they seem
 to mix up 'library cache lock' with 'library cache load
 lock'. Don't know if
 the same tracking techniques work on both.).

 Anybody else see this before? Suggestions on what to do if it shows up
 again?

 Thanks.

 Henry

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RE: wierd wait event - library cache load lock

2003-07-07 Thread John Kanagaraj
Henry,

These locks should normally occur when dependent objects needs to be
compiled (internally by the kernel or externally by scripts) on account of
invalidations. This problem is magnified in large ERP packages which
exhibits lots of dependencies and objects. Since you mention that this is
just moving into Production, you are probably experiencing a lot of
last-minute changes that are causing this. The only way of controlling this
is by scheduling changes to off-hours (even in Dev/UA), and most certainly
in Production. Sort DBA_OBJECTS by LAST_DDL_TIME to check which objects
changed. You could also write an ON DDL trigger to log details of who
modified which object from where and at what time.

You could look at ML Note 62143.1 'Understanding and Tuning the Shared Pool'
to understand the intricacies of the Shared pool.

If this is not due to invalidations, then it could be on account of a number
of shared pool related bugs (don't know what version you are on).

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

Great, uplifting music - http://www.klove.com

** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my
employer or clients **


 -Original Message-
 From: Henry Poras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:06 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: wierd wait event - library cache load lock
 
 
 We have a PeopleSoft system (Finanacials) that is just moving into
 production. Some of the conversion and data entry stuff was 
 running slowly
 so I peaked at our system and session wait events (as well as 
 looking at
 some recent history with statspack). There was  a huge amount 
 of time_waited
 for 'library cache load lock'. Never came across this one 
 before. According
 to the Docs, it is a lock used to load an object into the 
 library cache (you
 don't want the same object loaded more than once). I am 
 trying to find more
 information so I can debug this. Of course the problem isn't 
 there today
 (other modules are being worked on. Maybe that is why).
 
 Just trying to be ready when/if this happens again. I'm 
 thinking a 10046
 trace might give me some object information about what is being
 loaded/locked. Metalink suggests taking a systemstate dump 
 (though they seem
 to mix up 'library cache lock' with 'library cache load 
 lock'. Don't know if
 the same tracking techniques work on both.).
 
 Anybody else see this before? Suggestions on what to do if it shows up
 again?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Henry
 
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RE: wierd wait event - library cache load lock

2003-07-03 Thread John Clarke
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