RE: Rash of shared memory errors
Thanx, everyone, for replying so quickly! We're on 8.1.7.1 (sorry for omitting that in my OP). I'll look for the patch straight after this. Rahul and Connor, when you say the cause may be that the application is not using bind variables, do you mean that the application is using dynamic SQL, and thus almost every call to the DB during application execution is different, thus limiting query reuse? If that's the case, then this is not the cause in our app, as we don't use dynamic SQL at all. However, if you mean another way of not using bind variables, but in static queries, then could you please explain how this could be done, so I can check our app? Thanx very much. -arn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/9/2001 23:05:22 This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper. i would take a look at the application before increasing the size -- From: Mercadante, Thomas F[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Rash of shared memory errors Arn A shared pool size of 16 Meg is not large enough. This error clearly indicates that you are out of memory. It may be larger than your test and maintenance db, but it is not large enough for your developers. I don't know about you, but I have more developers on my Dev instances than testers on my testing instance! My shared pool value in my Dev instance is 80Meg, and I never get this error. Try increasing your shared pool to at least 50 Meg and see if the problem goes away. Hope this helps Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
Arn, You could be running into bug 1397603 that is fixed in the 8.1.7.2 patchset. The workaround is to set _db_handles_cached = 0 although if a db already has a problem with latch contention, this is likely to make it worse. Bug 1397603 is a generic bug specific to 8.1.7. The following query can be used to monitor the memory usage for state objects: SELECT * FROM V$SGASTAT WHERE NAME LIKE '%tate object%'; This memory use should level off after the db has been in use for a few hours. If it's constantly growing then it's most likely bug 1397603. There is a similar bug specific to 8.1.6.3, bug 1640583, that doesn't have a workaround. There are PSE (patchset exceptions) for this bug on most platforms, however. Contact OSS for the PSE. BTW, this PSE is mandatory for running apps 11i on 8.1.6.3. HTH, -- Anita --- Arn Klammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx, everyone, for replying so quickly! We're on 8.1.7.1 (sorry for omitting that in my OP). I'll look for the patch straight after this. Rahul and Connor, when you say the cause may be that the application is not using bind variables, do you mean that the application is using dynamic SQL, and thus almost every call to the DB during application execution is different, thus limiting query reuse? If that's the case, then this is not the cause in our app, as we don't use dynamic SQL at all. However, if you mean another way of not using bind variables, but in static queries, then could you please explain how this could be done, so I can check our app? Thanx very much. -arn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/9/2001 23:05:22 This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper. i would take a look at the application before increasing the size -- From: Mercadante, Thomas F[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Rash of shared memory errors Arn A shared pool size of 16 Meg is not large enough. This error clearly indicates that you are out of memory. It may be larger than your test and maintenance db, but it is not large enough for your developers. I don't know about you, but I have more developers on my Dev instances than testers on my testing instance! My shared pool value in my Dev instance is 80Meg, and I never get this error. Try increasing your shared pool to at least 50 Meg and see if the problem goes away. Hope this helps Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Rash of shared memory errors
Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
almost always because of the applicaiton NOT using bind variables... -- From: Arn Klammer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Rash of shared memory errors Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rash of shared memory errors
are you using oracle 8.1.7? if you are, this is caused by a bug on this version. you will only need to add another parameter in your init.ora... search metalink for the details of how to fix this... hth =) Arn Klammer wrote: Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega (OCP) Database Specialist Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
There is also a fix for this on Metalink (I think version 8.1.7.3) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L are you using oracle 8.1.7? if you are, this is caused by a bug on this version. you will only need to add another parameter in your init.ora... search metalink for the details of how to fix this... hth =) Arn Klammer wrote: Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega (OCP) Database Specialist Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
Yes, one of the reasons we upgraded to 8.1.7.2 was to fix this bug. Can't report just yet as to whether it works or not. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L are you using oracle 8.1.7? if you are, this is caused by a bug on this version. you will only need to add another parameter in your init.ora... search metalink for the details of how to fix this... hth =) Arn Klammer wrote: Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega (OCP) Database Specialist Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
Arn A shared pool size of 16 Meg is not large enough. This error clearly indicates that you are out of memory. It may be larger than your test and maintenance db, but it is not large enough for your developers. I don't know about you, but I have more developers on my Dev instances than testers on my testing instance! My shared pool value in my Dev instance is 80Meg, and I never get this error. Try increasing your shared pool to at least 50 Meg and see if the problem goes away. Hope this helps Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rash of shared memory errors
i would take a look at the application before increasing the size -- From: Mercadante, Thomas F[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Rash of shared memory errors Arn A shared pool size of 16 Meg is not large enough. This error clearly indicates that you are out of memory. It may be larger than your test and maintenance db, but it is not large enough for your developers. I don't know about you, but I have more developers on my Dev instances than testers on my testing instance! My shared pool value in my Dev instance is 80Meg, and I never get this error. Try increasing your shared pool to at least 50 Meg and see if the problem goes away. Hope this helps Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Just recently, we have been frequently receiving errors like the following in our development database: ERROR: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared pool,BEGIN DBMS_OUTPUT.DISABLE; E...,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer) The size of our shared pool is not too small (I think); it's larger than our test and maintenance databases, for example. shared_pool_reserved_sizestring 80 shared_pool_size string 1600 What could be causing this level of frequent fragmentation? We have been developing a new application in the database, but this has been ongoing for some months; the errors appeared only in the last week or so. What should I be looking for to solve this? Thanx for any advice. -arn ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arn Klammer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).