RE: Memory issues on HPUX --- docs on MetaLink

2002-12-11 Thread Hemant K Chitale

In my emails of the last two days I had mentioned that I had compiled a
list of docs on Metalink.

If you'd like to see the docs, I've placed them at
http://hkchital.tripod.com/HPUX_Notes_from_Oracle.zip

Hemant K Chitale
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Re: RE: Memory issues on HPUX --- docs on MetaLink

2002-12-11 Thread hkchital
Hmm..
I was able to download the file at both my
employer's Intranet and my Singnet broadband account
till last night.

Apparently, Tripod discourages file downloads from 
user's home pages.


Those who would like the file, please send me a seperate
email and I will send the file across.

Hemant


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Date: 12 Dec 2002 01:35:16 -
Reply-To: Cyril  Thankappan Subject: Re: RE: Memory issues on HPUX  --- docs on 
MetaLink
To: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

I get the error

This file is hosted by Tripod, a Lycos®Network Site, and is not
available for download. Please check out Tripod's Help system for
more information about Remote Loading and our Remote Loading
policy.




When I try to download the zip file...

Kindly advise

Cyril

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 Hemant K Chitale wrote :

In my emails of the last two days I had mentioned that I had
compiled a
list of docs on Metalink.

If you'd like to see the docs, I've placed them at
http://hkchital.tripod.com/HPUX_Notes_from_Oracle.zip

Hemant K Chitale
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RE: Memory issues on HPUX

2002-12-10 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
They may be talking about large SGA support  32-bit applications on HP-UX and 'memory 
windows'. Check Note # 77310.1 on Metalink. Also check HP docs (http://docs.hp.com). 
There is a White Paper on this topic. 

- Kirti 

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We are considering implementing a number of new products
on HPUX.  [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes
but are now looking at HPUX  for new applications].
The choice is between HPUX and Solaris.

The products will include
Oracle8i 8.1.7
Oracle9i 9.2.0
Oracle9iRAC
Documentum
Plumtree

Some of our vendors have put in a FUD factor -- 
there are memory issues running on HPUX, without
giving us any specifics.

Are there any well-known Memory issues / Memory leaks
running Oracle on HPUX ?

Hemant K Chitale
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Re: Memory issues on HPUX

2002-12-10 Thread Rodd Holman
It is true that you need to check your kernel parameters before
installing and creating databases.  Read the readme's and install docs
completely first.  Also as you have done search metalink for
installation on HUPX 64 bit.

Once the parameters are set, installation and db creation goes along
quite smoothly.

However, this advise goes for any platform (HP, IBM, Sun, NT, Linux).

Rodd

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 08:41, Hemant K Chitale wrote:
 Rodd,
 
 Yes, we do suspect that the vendors are trying to convince us to go
 for Solaris.
 I have compiled a list of docs I could find on MetaLink. Some of them do
 seem to indicate that we need to be careful setting the kernel parameters
 (e.g. total max SGA size limited to 1.7G on 32-bit, unless using something
 called memory windows, nfile parameter must be set properly etc).
 I also did a search for %memory% in the Patch Download patch and found a 
 few hits and will
 follow up on those as well.
 
 Hemant
 
 At 06:25 AM 10-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here.  Quite frankly the HP systems
 give us less problems that the Sun systems.  What you are getting
 from the vendors is exactly what you called it FUD.
 
 Rodd Holman
 
 On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote:
   We are considering implementing a number of new products
   on HPUX.  [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes
   but are now looking at HPUX  for new applications].
   The choice is between HPUX and Solaris.
  
   The products will include
   Oracle8i 8.1.7
   Oracle9i 9.2.0
   Oracle9iRAC
   Documentum
   Plumtree
  
   Some of our vendors have put in a FUD factor --
   there are memory issues running on HPUX, without
   giving us any specifics.
  
   Are there any well-known Memory issues / Memory leaks
   running Oracle on HPUX ?
  
   Hemant K Chitale
   http://hkchital.tripod.com
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Re: Memory issues on HPUX

2002-12-10 Thread Rodd Holman
We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here.  Quite frankly the HP systems
give us less problems that the Sun systems.  What you are getting
from the vendors is exactly what you called it FUD.

Rodd Holman

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote:
 We are considering implementing a number of new products
 on HPUX.  [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes
 but are now looking at HPUX  for new applications].
 The choice is between HPUX and Solaris.
 
 The products will include
 Oracle8i 8.1.7
 Oracle9i 9.2.0
 Oracle9iRAC
 Documentum
 Plumtree
 
 Some of our vendors have put in a FUD factor -- 
 there are memory issues running on HPUX, without
 giving us any specifics.
 
 Are there any well-known Memory issues / Memory leaks
 running Oracle on HPUX ?
 
 Hemant K Chitale
 http://hkchital.tripod.com
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Re: Memory issues on HPUX

2002-12-10 Thread Binley Lim

Solaris' kernel parameters are a lot simpler that HP's. Practically all of Solaris' 
parameters are dynamic, whereas on HP, you need to do a fair bit of tweaking.

A good example is the need to allocate memory available to Oracle, so you can size the 
SGA accordingly. Chances are, you will need several goes at it before arriving at an 
optimal configuration.

With demand paging on Solaris, the kernel shuffles resources (especially memory) 
around as required.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/02 04:19a.m. 
It is true that you need to check your kernel parameters before
installing and creating databases.  Read the readme's and install docs
completely first.  Also as you have done search metalink for
installation on HUPX 64 bit.

Once the parameters are set, installation and db creation goes along
quite smoothly.

However, this advise goes for any platform (HP, IBM, Sun, NT, Linux).

Rodd

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 08:41, Hemant K Chitale wrote:
 Rodd,
 
 Yes, we do suspect that the vendors are trying to convince us to go
 for Solaris.
 I have compiled a list of docs I could find on MetaLink. Some of them do
 seem to indicate that we need to be careful setting the kernel parameters
 (e.g. total max SGA size limited to 1.7G on 32-bit, unless using something
 called memory windows, nfile parameter must be set properly etc).
 I also did a search for %memory% in the Patch Download patch and found a 
 few hits and will
 follow up on those as well.
 
 Hemant
 
 At 06:25 AM 10-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 We run both HPUX and Solaris systems here.  Quite frankly the HP systems
 give us less problems that the Sun systems.  What you are getting
 from the vendors is exactly what you called it FUD.
 
 Rodd Holman
 
 On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:08, hkchital wrote:
   We are considering implementing a number of new products
   on HPUX.  [We are currently running Tru64 and Solaris boxes
   but are now looking at HPUX  for new applications].
   The choice is between HPUX and Solaris.
  
   The products will include
   Oracle8i 8.1.7
   Oracle9i 9.2.0
   Oracle9iRAC
   Documentum
   Plumtree
  
   Some of our vendors have put in a FUD factor --
   there are memory issues running on HPUX, without
   giving us any specifics.
  
   Are there any well-known Memory issues / Memory leaks
   running Oracle on HPUX ?
  
   Hemant K Chitale
   http://hkchital.tripod.com 
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