RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

I found you absolutely have to use get right, anything from oracle site you
generally have to download a few times to get it to actully work, sometimes
I am lucky.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread William Beilstein

I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
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Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Post, Ethan

Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet (Tucows.com)
the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E

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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863
 


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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

I get the same thing on file1 (gzip: 901solaris_disk1.cpio.gz: invalid
compressed data--crc error) files2 and 3 appear to be good. (I don't have
enough space to unzip them yet)

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I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863
 


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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Chris,

If you're downloading using MS IE, be careful - you can't jump around while
the download is taking place, your file will be corrupt.  Best to start in
the evening, and come back the next morning.

I use something called Download Accelerator, it's adware but it works and
it's free.  It downloads things in parallel.  It's written for dial-up
connections but it works well on DSL .


Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique 
Maritimes Region, DFO  | Région des Maritimes, MPO

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Subject:RE: 9i download

Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E

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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the
CD.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are
easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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North, Chelmsford 01863
 


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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still


I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.

Jared


On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet (Tucows.com)
> the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
>
> I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
> Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
> I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
>
>
> "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
> both are frozen."
>
> Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> Oracle DBA
> Phone: (978) 322-5744
> Fax:(707) 885-2275
>
> Fuelspot
> 73 Princeton Street
> North, Chelmsford 01863
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Mike J Kurth


Buy the technology track from OTN for $200 and install from the cd.
It's alot less hassle.


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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread kjanusz

Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet (Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
> > Fuelspot
> > 73 Princeton Street
> > North, Chelmsford 01863
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Bill Pribyl

Another problem I've encountered occurs specifically when downloading with
Netscape 6 (Mozilla).  It attempts to unzip the file for you--without asking or
mentioning this--and corrupts it in the process.  Or something like that.  I've
downloaded the files from Technet with Netscape 4.7x and it works fine for me.

B

Christopher Spence wrote:

> I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Post, Ethan

Junior

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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
> > Fuelspot
> > 73 Princeton Street
> > North, Chelmsford 01863
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Gogala, Mladen

I believe that a cable modem or a DSL are the best download accelerators on
the market. Doing that with a 56k modem is a suicide. From this perspective,
I cannot
comprehend how did the mankind survive before the advent of DSL.

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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
> > Fuelspot
> > 73 Princeton Street
> > North, Chelmsford 01863
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Yeah I am just noticed that, I bought getright and got it no problems, now
time to download the new ias.  Already made my 9i cds and going to install
it tonight on some u1 and my u10.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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Chris,

If you're downloading using MS IE, be careful - you can't jump around while
the download is taking place, your file will be corrupt.  Best to start in
the evening, and come back the next morning.

I use something called Download Accelerator, it's adware but it works and
it's free.  It downloads things in parallel.  It's written for dial-up
connections but it works well on DSL .


Patrice Boivin
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Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
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Subject:RE: 9i download

Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E

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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the
CD.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are
easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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North, Chelmsford 01863
 


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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

I used to download full linux ISO's from a 14,440 baud.  
We did it, just took 3 days.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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I believe that a cable modem or a DSL are the best download accelerators on
the market. Doing that with a 56k modem is a suicide. From this perspective,
I cannot
comprehend how did the mankind survive before the advent of DSL.

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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

9i isn't on it yet I think.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

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Buy the technology track from OTN for $200 and install from the cd.
It's alot less hassle.


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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

I use it on a 56k dial up, and it works great!!

Mark

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Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
>
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
>
> Jared
>
>
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
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> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

GetRight was only $20 to register, free if you like ad ware and a few other
less features.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:22 AM
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> >
> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Sinardy Xing

Is Oracle 9i free download ??


Sinardy

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GetRight was only $20 to register, free if you like ad ware and a few other
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"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
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Christopher R. Spence
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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a
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Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
>
> I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
>
> Jared
>
>
> On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
> > Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
> > the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> >
> > I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM >>>
> >
> > I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
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> > Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
> > I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
> >
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
> > Oracle DBA
> > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > Fax:(707) 885-2275
> >
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Paul Drake

Sinardy Xing wrote:
> 
> Is Oracle 9i free download ??
> 
> Sinardy
> 

yeah, the download is free - but you have to own a SPARC box to use it.

I saw a quote for the following - (refurbished)

E450
2 x 400 MHz CPUs - 4 MB cache
4 x 256 MB RAM
4 x 9.1 GB hard drives
SCSI controllers, fast ethernet, video adapter
OS kit

$12,000

Kinda steep when you're used to Intel boxes.
Looks like I might hunt on Ebay for awhile longer.

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Ivan_Rivera
Title: RE: 9i download





Paul and all others interested.  Ebay seems to be a great source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have a new workstation for $999.  Now of course you'd probably need more ram but this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing purposes at home. Hardware guys out there could you determine if this is enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357&catfocus=Desktops





RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Mike J Kurth


I guess I was thinking of IAS 9I.


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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: RE: 9i download



Very 
suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any upgrades 
cheap.  Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.
 
256Mb 
would be better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.
 
The 
blade is a nice machine, really nice for a workstation as it has USB and some 
newer features, but considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it a bit slower 
for server type apps than say a U10.
But it 
is still a great machine for the money, no questions there.
Perfect for that task you mentioned.  But i would recommend getting 
128Mb additional.
 
"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 
  10:16 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: 9i download
  Paul and all others interested.  Ebay seems to be a great 
  source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have a new 
  workstation for $999.  Now of course you'd probably need more ram but 
  this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing purposes at 
  home. Hardware guys out there could you determine if this is enough? Thanks. 
  Ivan Rivera
  http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357&catfocus=Desktops 
  


Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Anjan Thakuria


Heard one my SA collegue saying that someone has successfully used PC RAM
and something else (don't remember) sucessfully. (Now THAT is economical
workaround).
Anjan
Christopher Spence wrote:
 Very
suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any upgrades
cheap.  Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.256Mb
would be better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.The
blade is a nice machine, really nice for a workstation as it has USB and
some newer features, but considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it
a bit slower for server type apps than say a U10.But
it is still a great machine for the money, no questions there.Perfect
for that task you mentioned.  But i would recommend getting 128Mb
additional. "Walking
on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both
are frozen."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot

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Paul and all others interested.  Ebay seems to be a
great source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have
a new workstation for $999.  Now of course you'd probably need more
ram but this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing
purposes at home. Hardware guys out there could you determine if this is
enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera
http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357&catfocus=Desktops




Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Jared Still


Geez Paul, that's an E450!

Try something in the Ultra line, they
are somewhat less expensive.

Jared

On Tuesday 05 June 2001 01:35, Paul Drake wrote:
> Sinardy Xing wrote:
> > Is Oracle 9i free download ??
> >
> > Sinardy
>
> yeah, the download is free - but you have to own a SPARC box to use it.
>
> I saw a quote for the following - (refurbished)
>
> E450
> 2 x 400 MHz CPUs - 4 MB cache
> 4 x 256 MB RAM
> 4 x 9.1 GB hard drives
> SCSI controllers, fast ethernet, video adapter
> OS kit
>
> $12,000
>
> Kinda steep when you're used to Intel boxes.
> Looks like I might hunt on Ebay for awhile longer.
>
> Paul
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 05 June 2001 08:36, Christopher Spence wrote:
> Very suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any
> upgrades cheap.  Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.
>
> 256Mb would be better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.

Chris,

Can't you just put standard RAM in those?  It's not actually
proprietary memory is it?

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Wolfe, Charles

FWIW, I was able to install and actually run 9i Beta along with a 9i OEM
management server on an Ultra 5 with  128MB RAM.  It was slow, but it
worked.

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Geez Paul, that's an E450!

Try something in the Ultra line, they
are somewhat less expensive.

Jared

On Tuesday 05 June 2001 01:35, Paul Drake wrote:
> Sinardy Xing wrote:
> > Is Oracle 9i free download ??
> >
> > Sinardy
>
> yeah, the download is free - but you have to own a SPARC box to use it.
>
> I saw a quote for the following - (refurbished)
>
> E450
> 2 x 400 MHz CPUs - 4 MB cache
> 4 x 256 MB RAM
> 4 x 9.1 GB hard drives
> SCSI controllers, fast ethernet, video adapter
> OS kit
>
> $12,000
>
> Kinda steep when you're used to Intel boxes.
> Looks like I might hunt on Ebay for awhile longer.
>
> Paul
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Don Granaman



I looked at these online today.  The Sun RAM 
and hard drives are outrageously expensive!  However,...
 
 re: RAM ---
 
Under FAQs, it says:
 
2. Is this memory 
proprietary?No. The memory used in the 
Sun Blade 100 is industry standard.
 
3. Why buy Sun 
memory?This family of 
memory products are priced competitively and are tested, approved and qualified 
by Sun.
 
Elsewhere it says: "168-pin JEDEC DRAM with error 
correction."
 
So, I appears that it will take decent non-SUN 
RAM.  I would certainly argue with the statement that Sun RAM is "priced 
competitively"!  Check out www.crucial.com - on 
the front page it says:
"256MB upgrade for Sun Blade 100 Workstation 
$70.19 "
(128MB and 512MB modules are also available.)  
Sun wants about $300!  Crucial's web price is even lower - 
$63.89!
 
--- re: second EIDE disk ---
 
Hmmm...  For about $300, the same price as 
Sun's 15 GB disk, one can get a retail 
IBM 75GB EIDE Ultra ATA/100  LP Deskstar 7200 
RPM 75GXP.  Will it work in the Blade 100?
 
--- re: other ---
I'm not sure whether the Sun 17" or 21" monitors 
are decently priced, but the resolutions and refresh rates are certainly not 
spectacular.  The SCSI card doesn't seem like a bargain and the video cards 
are certainly not.  So,...
 
Has anyone tried a third-party SCSI 
controller?  A third party PCI video card?  Third party 
monitor?
 
-Don Granaman
[Certifiable OraSaurus]

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Anjan 
  Thakuria 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:53 
PM
  Subject: Re: 9i download
  Heard one my SA collegue saying that someone has successfully 
  used PC RAM and something else (don't remember) sucessfully. (Now THAT is 
  economical workaround). 
  Anjan 
  Christopher Spence wrote: 
   Very suitable, it is a great 
machine, just don't plan on getting any upgrades cheap.  Memory and DVD 
are astronomical priced.256Mb would be better, but I 
believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.The blade is a nice machine, 
really nice for a workstation as it has USB and some newer features, but 
considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it a bit slower for server type 
apps than say a U10.But it is still a great machine for the money, no questions 
there.Perfect for that task you 
mentioned.  But i would recommend getting 128Mb 
additional. "Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence 
Oracle DBA 
Fuelspot 

  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 
  10:16 AM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 9i download 
   Paul and all others interested.  Ebay 
  seems to be a great source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's 
  site they have a new workstation for $999.  Now of course you'd 
  probably need more ram but this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, 
  etc for testing purposes at home. Hardware guys out there could you 
  determine if this is enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera 
  http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357&catfocus=Desktops


RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Probably an Intel x86 compatible CPU . Without that PC either doesn't work
or is not a PC.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Heard one my SA collegue saying that someone has successfully used PC RAM
and something else (don't remember) sucessfully. (Now THAT is economical
workaround). 

Anjan 


Christopher Spence wrote: 


 Very suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any
upgrades cheap.  Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.256Mb would be
better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.The blade is a nice machine,
really nice for a workstation as it has USB and some newer features, but
considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it a bit slower for server type
apps than say a U10.But it is still a great machine for the money, no
questions there.Perfect for that task you mentioned.  But i would recommend
getting 128Mb additional. "Walking on water and developing software from a
specification are easy if both are frozen." 

Christopher R. Spence 
Oracle DBA 
Fuelspot 


-Original Message- 
 ] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:16 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
Paul and all others interested.  Ebay seems to be a great source for used
sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have a new workstation for
$999.  Now of course you'd probably need more ram but this setup looks like
it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing purposes at home. Hardware guys
out there could you determine if this is enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera 

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357
 &catfocus=Desktops

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Spence

No, it is the same ram as a Sparc 20, Ultra 1, Ultra 60, Ultra 80, Ultra 30,
E450, E450R, E250R.

Depending if you put 1, 2, 4 dimms in.

The memory isn't too badly priced, it is still more than PC new.  But not as
exspensives as some of them.
They are actually quite fast for the MHz/Bus speeds.  Not nearly as fast as
my u10 with 10 disks, but not bad at all.



"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot 



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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Christopher Spence


On Tuesday 05 June 2001 08:36, Christopher Spence wrote:
> Very suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any
> upgrades cheap.  Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.
>
> 256Mb would be better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.

Chris,

Can't you just put standard RAM in those?  It's not actually
proprietary memory is it?

Jared
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Spence



Use a 
Symbios 390UF controlller from Techram, $61 dollars, ultra wide, exactly the 
same as 2940UW and works great in sun boxes.  I got two of them in the my 
Sun U10 one pointing two cheetah drives, one pointing to raid box.  And 
soon fiber card pointing to sparc array 200 with 30 9gb drives 
:)
 
"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

  -Original Message-From: Don Granaman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:16 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  9i download
  I looked at these online today.  The Sun RAM 
  and hard drives are outrageously expensive!  However,...
   
   re: RAM ---
   
  Under FAQs, it says:
   
  2. Is this memory 
  proprietary?No. The memory used in the 
  Sun Blade 100 is industry standard.
   
  3. Why buy Sun 
  memory?This family of 
  memory products are priced competitively and are tested, approved and 
  qualified by Sun.
   
  Elsewhere it says: "168-pin JEDEC DRAM with error 
  correction."
   
  So, I appears that it will take decent non-SUN 
  RAM.  I would certainly argue with the statement that Sun RAM is "priced 
  competitively"!  Check out www.crucial.com - on 
  the front page it says:
  "256MB upgrade for Sun Blade 100 Workstation 
  $70.19 "
  (128MB and 512MB modules are also 
  available.)  Sun wants about $300!  Crucial's web price is even 
  lower - $63.89!
   
  --- re: second EIDE disk ---
   
  Hmmm...  For about $300, the same price as 
  Sun's 15 GB disk, one can get a retail 
  IBM 75GB EIDE Ultra ATA/100  LP Deskstar 
  7200 RPM 75GXP.  Will it work in the Blade 100?
   
  --- re: other ---
  I'm not sure whether the Sun 17" or 21" monitors 
  are decently priced, but the resolutions and refresh rates are certainly not 
  spectacular.  The SCSI card doesn't seem like a bargain and the video 
  cards are certainly not.  So,...
   
  Has anyone tried a third-party SCSI 
  controller?  A third party PCI video card?  Third party 
  monitor?
   
  -Don Granaman
  [Certifiable OraSaurus]
  
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
Anjan Thakuria 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
    
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:53 
PM
Subject: Re: 9i download
Heard one my SA collegue saying that someone has successfully 
used PC RAM and something else (don't remember) sucessfully. (Now THAT is 
economical workaround). 
Anjan 
Christopher Spence wrote: 
 Very suitable, it is a great 
  machine, just don't plan on getting any upgrades cheap.  Memory and 
  DVD are astronomical priced.256Mb would be better, but I 
  believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.The blade is a nice machine, 
  really nice for a workstation as it has USB and some newer features, but 
  considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it a bit slower for server 
  type apps than say a U10.But it is still a great machine for the money, no questions 
  there.Perfect for that task you 
  mentioned.  But i would recommend getting 128Mb 
  additional. "Walking on water and developing software from a 
  specification are easy if both are frozen." 
  Christopher R. Spence 
  Oracle DBA 
  Fuelspot 
  
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 
    10:16 AM To: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 9i download 
 Paul and all others interested.  Ebay 
seems to be a great source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at 
sun's site they have a new workstation for $999.  Now of course 
you'd probably need more ram but this setup looks like it can handle and 
run 9i, etc for testing purposes at home. Hardware guys out there could 
you determine if this is enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera 
http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357&catfocus=Desktops