RE: Archiving not possible with SQL Server?

2001-05-30 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Correct.

SQL Server can have multiple transaction logs (I discovered this last week
while reading so I am correcting a previous post of mine here), but these
inevitably fill up.  You then either do a backup log filename to device
truncate only to clear the log.  This is the equivalent of running in
noarchivelog mode and using cold backups only.

If you want to keep backups of the transactions, you have to set up jobs to
back up the transaction log files regularly.  After the backup is done, SQL
Server can remove transactions that were backed up from the log(s), clearing
up some space inside the file.

In Oracle, the ARCH process reads the redo logs and stores copies of the
contents into archived log files.  You don't have to worry about the redo
log files filling up, but the archlog_dest directory can fill up.

You can set the SQL Server transaction log to autoextend, until the disk
fills up... which is kind of like running out of space in archive log dest.
Sort of.

Patrice Boivin
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Halo,

Windoz 2000/SQL Server 2000

Bringing an axuliary MS SQL db online. Trying to setup archiving.
Am I
reading documentation right, SQL does NOT automatically archive
transaction
log? This process must be setup via backup routine, which truncates
the log
upon completion?

Lemme try some logic:

Oracle's redo logs = MS transaction log(s)
Oracle's archived logs = ?


Gary Weber
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Re: Archiving not possible with SQL Server?

2001-05-30 Thread Igor Neyman

Actually, MS transaction log(s) combine the functions of Oracle's redo logs
and Rollback segments (and that's bad).
As for archiving - nop, no archiving in MS SQL Server.

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 Halo,

 Windoz 2000/SQL Server 2000

 Bringing an axuliary MS SQL db online. Trying to setup archiving. Am I
 reading documentation right, SQL does NOT automatically archive
transaction
 log? This process must be setup via backup routine, which truncates the
log
 upon completion?

 Lemme try some logic:

 Oracle's redo logs = MS transaction log(s)
 Oracle's archived logs = ?


 Gary Weber
 Senior DBA
 Charles Jones, LLC
 609-530-1144, ext 5529

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