Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never touched System. you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces? From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan Title: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan
Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
Actually, from 9iR2, system tablespace is created as locally managed autoallocate. They should have put in SEGMENT MANAGEMENT AUTO clause as well, but hey, you can't always get what you want, but you can try sometimes. On 2003.08.18 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never touched System. you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces? From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
Hi Mladen, Just to avoid any confusion, you have the *option* to create a LM System tablespace, the *default* is still DM. The ODCA uses the extent management local clause in it's default scripts but to create a database manually, you need to remember the clause. Whether it should use ASSM is somewhat more debatable... Cheers Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:14 PM Actually, from 9iR2, system tablespace is created as locally managed autoallocate. They should have put in SEGMENT MANAGEMENT AUTO clause as well, but hey, you can't always get what you want, but you can try sometimes. On 2003.08.18 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never touched System. you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces? From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Foote INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
i did use the dbca to create this instance? From: Richard Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/18 Mon AM 10:39:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Hi Mladen, Just to avoid any confusion, you have the *option* to create a LM System tablespace, the *default* is still DM. The ODCA uses the extent management local clause in it's default scripts but to create a database manually, you need to remember the clause. Whether it should use ASSM is somewhat more debatable... Cheers Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:14 PM Actually, from 9iR2, system tablespace is created as locally managed autoallocate. They should have put in SEGMENT MANAGEMENT AUTO clause as well, but hey, you can't always get what you want, but you can try sometimes. On 2003.08.18 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never touched System. you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces? From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Foote INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
Well, technically he's right. If you don't qualify CREATE TABLESPACE or CREATE DATABASE command with the EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL clause, you will get dictionary tablespaces. dbca, however despicable it is, does not forget it. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L i did use the dbca to create this instance? From: Richard Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/18 Mon AM 10:39:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Hi Mladen, Just to avoid any confusion, you have the *option* to create a LM System tablespace, the *default* is still DM. The ODCA uses the extent management local clause in it's default scripts but to create a database manually, you need to remember the clause. Whether it should use ASSM is somewhat more debatable... Cheers Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:14 PM Actually, from 9iR2, system tablespace is created as locally managed autoallocate. They should have put in SEGMENT MANAGEMENT AUTO clause as well, but hey, you can't always get what you want, but you can try sometimes. On 2003.08.18 07:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never touched System. you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces? From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i? Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the issue altogether? on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero? Ryan -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Foote INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender
