RE: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-19 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

ok so let me chirp in as well .. another way of
preventing 1555 is to first do a full table scan on
the table you are about to mess with .. to prevent
delayed block cleanout effect .. go figure ;)

Deepak


--- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another way of avoiding ora-1555 errors is issuing
> 'LOCK TABLE xxx 
> in EXCLUSIVE MODE' before issuing a select
> statement. That will make 
> sure that no transaction is modifying the table
> you're reading and
> you will not get any ora-1555 errors. This is
> especially useful in
> an OLTP environment. There might be a problem with
> job security, 
> however
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> The ORA-1555 is a read consistency error.  The
> information from the rollback segments needed to
> create a read-consistent view of the data is not
> available.  Usually because the information has been
> overwritten or the extents containing this
> information
> have been deallocated (e.g. if optimal is set).
> 
> Until 9i, where you can use automatic undo to avoid
> these errors, the best way is to create dummy
> transcations in each of the online RBS's before
> starting the export and leave them uncomitted until
> the export completes.  This will prevent the
> rollback
> segments from wrapping around and overwriting the
> extents that contained uncomitted transactions when
> the export began.  Of course this means you're
> likely
> to generate a lot more rollback than usual so you'll
> need to monitor the space in the RBS tablespaces to
> avoid getting extent allocation errors.
> 
> Check Steve Adams' site for a set of scripts to
> assist
> you with this:
>   http://www.ixora.com.au
> Scripts > Rollback Segments
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- Anita
> 
> --- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah
> > 
> > I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> > 45Gigg database, the
> > export will continue until at a end it will come
> up
> > with a warning
> > that export was completed successfully with
> warnings
> > because rollback
> > segment was too old. I increased the tablespace
> RBS
> > where the rollback
> > segments are residing and also created some more
> > rollback segments.
> > This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> > this but this was
> > happening when the user was trying to delete some
> > records with a where
> > clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> > segment too old.
> > Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about
> this
> > problem, I would
> > appreciate you input dearly
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Mtabaruka !
> >
>
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-19 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

Hey Anita, this is really a cool workaround .. who
thought these dummy transactions were so damn smart
!!! this implementation of dummy Xns i  am hearing
about for the first time .. let me admit ;)

Great mail!!

Thx
Deepak
--- "A. Bardeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The ORA-1555 is a read consistency error.  The
> information from the rollback segments needed to
> create a read-consistent view of the data is not
> available.  Usually because the information has been
> overwritten or the extents containing this
> information
> have been deallocated (e.g. if optimal is set).
> 
> Until 9i, where you can use automatic undo to avoid
> these errors, the best way is to create dummy
> transcations in each of the online RBS's before
> starting the export and leave them uncomitted until
> the export completes.  This will prevent the
> rollback
> segments from wrapping around and overwriting the
> extents that contained uncomitted transactions when
> the export began.  Of course this means you're
> likely
> to generate a lot more rollback than usual so you'll
> need to monitor the space in the RBS tablespaces to
> avoid getting extent allocation errors.
> 
> Check Steve Adams' site for a set of scripts to
> assist
> you with this:
>   http://www.ixora.com.au
> Scripts > Rollback Segments
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- Anita
> 
> --- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah
> > 
> > I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> > 45Gigg database, the
> > export will continue until at a end it will come
> up
> > with a warning
> > that export was completed successfully with
> warnings
> > because rollback
> > segment was too old. I increased the tablespace
> RBS
> > where the rollback
> > segments are residing and also created some more
> > rollback segments.
> > This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> > this but this was
> > happening when the user was trying to delete some
> > records with a where
> > clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> > segment too old.
> > Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about
> this
> > problem, I would
> > appreciate you input dearly
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Mtabaruka !
> >
>
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RE: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Another way of avoiding ora-1555 errors is issuing 'LOCK TABLE xxx 
in EXCLUSIVE MODE' before issuing a select statement. That will make 
sure that no transaction is modifying the table you're reading and
you will not get any ora-1555 errors. This is especially useful in
an OLTP environment. There might be a problem with job security, 
however


-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


The ORA-1555 is a read consistency error.  The
information from the rollback segments needed to
create a read-consistent view of the data is not
available.  Usually because the information has been
overwritten or the extents containing this information
have been deallocated (e.g. if optimal is set).

Until 9i, where you can use automatic undo to avoid
these errors, the best way is to create dummy
transcations in each of the online RBS's before
starting the export and leave them uncomitted until
the export completes.  This will prevent the rollback
segments from wrapping around and overwriting the
extents that contained uncomitted transactions when
the export began.  Of course this means you're likely
to generate a lot more rollback than usual so you'll
need to monitor the space in the RBS tablespaces to
avoid getting extent allocation errors.

Check Steve Adams' site for a set of scripts to assist
you with this:
  http://www.ixora.com.au
Scripts > Rollback Segments

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah
> 
> I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> 45Gigg database, the
> export will continue until at a end it will come up
> with a warning
> that export was completed successfully with warnings
> because rollback
> segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> where the rollback
> segments are residing and also created some more
> rollback segments.
> This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> this but this was
> happening when the user was trying to delete some
> records with a where
> clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> segment too old.
> Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> problem, I would
> appreciate you input dearly
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mtabaruka !
>
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-19 Thread A. Bardeen

The ORA-1555 is a read consistency error.  The
information from the rollback segments needed to
create a read-consistent view of the data is not
available.  Usually because the information has been
overwritten or the extents containing this information
have been deallocated (e.g. if optimal is set).

Until 9i, where you can use automatic undo to avoid
these errors, the best way is to create dummy
transcations in each of the online RBS's before
starting the export and leave them uncomitted until
the export completes.  This will prevent the rollback
segments from wrapping around and overwriting the
extents that contained uncomitted transactions when
the export began.  Of course this means you're likely
to generate a lot more rollback than usual so you'll
need to monitor the space in the RBS tablespaces to
avoid getting extent allocation errors.

Check Steve Adams' site for a set of scripts to assist
you with this:
  http://www.ixora.com.au
Scripts > Rollback Segments

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah
> 
> I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> 45Gigg database, the
> export will continue until at a end it will come up
> with a warning
> that export was completed successfully with warnings
> because rollback
> segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> where the rollback
> segments are residing and also created some more
> rollback segments.
> This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> this but this was
> happening when the user was trying to delete some
> records with a where
> clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> segment too old.
> Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> problem, I would
> appreciate you input dearly
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mtabaruka !
>
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RE: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-17 Thread Ahmed Gholam Hussain

Hi Mr Dumas ,

   Why not using direct path load In export specify : Direct = y 

Regards

> -Original Message-
> From: ASHRAF SALAYMEH [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:30 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!
> 
> I think you forgot to assign a transaction to the
> increased RBS
> 
> Suppose the increased RBS is RBS2 then
> 
> SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RBS2;
> 
> After that do an export again .
> 
> I think it will work.
> 
> --- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah
> > 
> > I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> > 45Gigg database, the
> > export will continue until at a end it will come up
> > with a warning
> > that export was completed successfully with warnings
> > because rollback
> > segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> > where the rollback
> > segments are residing and also created some more
> > rollback segments.
> > This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> > this but this was
> > happening when the user was trying to delete some
> > records with a where
> > clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> > segment too old.
> > Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> > problem, I would
> > appreciate you input dearly
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Mtabaruka !
> >
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-17 Thread Jared Still


Ashraf,

You can't do that with an export.

Jared

On Saturday 17 November 2001 02:00, ASHRAF SALAYMEH wrote:
> I think you forgot to assign a transaction to the
> increased RBS
>
> Suppose the increased RBS is RBS2 then
>
> SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RBS2;
>
> After that do an export again .
>
> I think it will work.
>
> --- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yeah
> >
> > I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> > 45Gigg database, the
> > export will continue until at a end it will come up
> > with a warning
> > that export was completed successfully with warnings
> > because rollback
> > segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> > where the rollback
> > segments are residing and also created some more
> > rollback segments.
> > This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> > this but this was
> > happening when the user was trying to delete some
> > records with a where
> > clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> > segment too old.
> > Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> > problem, I would
> > appreciate you input dearly
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Mtabaruka !
>
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-17 Thread ASHRAF SALAYMEH

I think you forgot to assign a transaction to the
increased RBS

Suppose the increased RBS is RBS2 then

SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RBS2;

After that do an export again .

I think it will work.

--- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah
> 
> I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> 45Gigg database, the
> export will continue until at a end it will come up
> with a warning
> that export was completed successfully with warnings
> because rollback
> segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> where the rollback
> segments are residing and also created some more
> rollback segments.
> This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> this but this was
> happening when the user was trying to delete some
> records with a where
> clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> segment too old.
> Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> problem, I would
> appreciate you input dearly
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mtabaruka !
>
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-17 Thread ASHRAF SALAYMEH

I think you forgot to assign a transaction to the
increased RBS

Suppose the increased RBS is RBS2 then

SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RBS2;

After that do an export again .

I think it will work.

--- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah
> 
> I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> 45Gigg database, the
> export will continue until at a end it will come up
> with a warning
> that export was completed successfully with warnings
> because rollback
> segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> where the rollback
> segments are residing and also created some more
> rollback segments.
> This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> this but this was
> happening when the user was trying to delete some
> records with a where
> clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> segment too old.
> Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> problem, I would
> appreciate you input dearly
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mtabaruka !
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RE: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-16 Thread Wiegand, Kurt

metalink documents 10630.1 69464.1 62005.1 and 45895.1 will help

The key is to hold on to committed values in the rollback segments as long
as possible.  You can add rollback segments, increase their size (i.e.
increase MINEXTENTS), avoid using OPTIMAL (maybe a debateable suggestion)
but do not overlook analyzing the database activity at the time of the
1055.  Consistent views of large amounts of data in a highly active 
database may be impossible.

Kurt Wiegand
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Yeah

I had a problem recently were I was exporting a 45Gigg database, the
export will continue until at a end it will come up with a warning
that export was completed successfully with warnings because rollback
segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS where the rollback
segments are residing and also created some more rollback segments.
This did not work also, I had a problem similar to this but this was
happening when the user was trying to delete some records with a where
clause, it would come up with the error rollback segment too old.
Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this problem, I would
appreciate you input dearly

Thank you,

Mtabaruka !
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Re: Rollback Segment Too Old !!!!!!!

2001-11-16 Thread Connor McDonald

For a consistent read, the export needs to the
rollback segments, but they are being recycled by
other txns in your db.  So you'll need one or more of:

- larger rollback segs
- less activity whilst your doing your export
- faster exports

hth
connor

 --- Jackson Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> Yeah
> 
> I had a problem recently were I was exporting a
> 45Gigg database, the
> export will continue until at a end it will come up
> with a warning
> that export was completed successfully with warnings
> because rollback
> segment was too old. I increased the tablespace RBS
> where the rollback
> segments are residing and also created some more
> rollback segments.
> This did not work also, I had a problem similar to
> this but this was
> happening when the user was trying to delete some
> records with a where
> clause, it would come up with the error rollback
> segment too old.
> Can somebody give me an idea of how to go about this
> problem, I would
> appreciate you input dearly
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mtabaruka !
>
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