Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-27 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?B=FClent=20A=E7=FDkg=F6z?=

me too.
NT and unix ,
thank you
 

paquette stephane wrote:

 Me too.
 On unix and NT

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 écrit :  O'Neill, Sean wrote:
  
   I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I
  use to perform COLD
   backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not
  particularily happy about having
   username/password information in the scripts.  Has
  anyone come up with a way
   to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts
  should require no user input
   to execute.
  
   Sean :)
  
 
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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Rachel Carmichael


Sean,

Not sure how you'd do this on NT, since I don't know how the identified 
externally accounts work on NT.

On Unix you can create a user in the database with the same name as one of 
the Unix accounts. Default is ops$username, you can change or remove the 
ops$ requirement via one of the init.ora commands -- (remote_something or 
other, I'm at home right now and no access to look it up)

grant the privileges necessary to this account, then when you need to log 
into the database you can use / to enter username/password:

ex.sqlplus /

and run what you need from cron from this Unix account.

Rachel

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I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a 
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user 
input
to execute.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Rajesh Dayal

I hv a workaround 
Change platform to Unix and set permission as 700 ;-))

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I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about
having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
to execute.


Sean :)

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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Stephane Faroult

O'Neill, Sean wrote:
 
 I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
 backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
 username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a way
 to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user input
 to execute.
 
 Sean :)
 

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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Jon Walthour

If you're going to be doing DBA tasks like you describe (backups which
require you to shutdown the database, etc.), you can just use / as sysdba
in sqlplus. This works all the way back to 7.3 as far as I know. For it to
work, however, the OS account that is being used must be a member of the DBA
group (Unix) or the ORA_DBA group (NT). In a UNIX script, I use it like
this:

sqlplus  EOF
/ as sysdba
shutdown immediate
exit
EOF

In NT, it would be a matter of putting all the commands in a .sql script and
executing the script like this:

sqlplus / as sysdba @myscript.sql

Hope this helps.

Jon Walthour

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 I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
 backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
 username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
 to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
 to execute.


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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread paquette stephane

Me too.
On unix and NT

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  I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I
 use to perform COLD
  backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not
 particularily happy about having
  username/password information in the scripts.  Has
 anyone come up with a way
  to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts
 should require no user input
  to execute.
  
  Sean :)
  
 
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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Jared . Still



Interesting topic.

Would anyone be interested in a password server?

Not foolproof, but considerably more secure than putting
passwords in a script, and infinitely more flexible.

Jared



   
 
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I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
to execute.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Orr, Steve

Only if it's written in secure, encrypted, object oriented Perl.


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Interesting topic.

Would anyone be interested in a password server?

Not foolproof, but considerably more secure than putting
passwords in a script, and infinitely more flexible.

Jared



 

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backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
to execute.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Orr, Steve

Hi Jared,

I'd be interrested in a password server... you got one?

Steve Orr


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Interesting topic.

Would anyone be interested in a password server?

Not foolproof, but considerably more secure than putting
passwords in a script, and infinitely more flexible.

Jared



 

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username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
to execute.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

The parameter of which Rachael speaks is  os_authent_prefix.  For example

os_authent_prefix = 

which means no prefix is required.

Do Not! set remote_os_authent to TRUE.   The authentication method is quite easily 
spoofed from client machines.

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Sean,

Not sure how you'd do this on NT, since I don't know how the identified 
externally accounts work on NT.

On Unix you can create a user in the database with the same name as one of 
the Unix accounts. Default is ops$username, you can change or remove the 
ops$ requirement via one of the init.ora commands -- (remote_something or 
other, I'm at home right now and no access to look it up)

grant the privileges necessary to this account, then when you need to log 
into the database you can use / to enter username/password:

ex.sqlplus /

and run what you need from cron from this Unix account.

Rachel

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I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a 
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user 
input
to execute.


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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Thater, William

Orr, Steve wrote:
 
 Hi Jared,
 
 I'd be interrested in a password server... you got one?
 
 Steve Orr

count me in.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Jared . Still


Steve said:
 Only if it's written in secure, encrypted, object oriented Perl.

Perl: Yes.

OOP: Yes

Secure and Encrypted:  not yet, working on it

Jared



   
 
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Interesting topic.

Would anyone be interested in a password server?

Not foolproof, but considerably more secure than putting
passwords in a script, and infinitely more flexible.

Jared





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I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
way
to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
input
to execute.


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RE: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-26 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Ian,

thank you. at 4:30 in the morning, I'm barely able to remember my name, let 
alone init.ora parameters

Rachel


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The parameter of which Rachael speaks is  os_authent_prefix.  For example

os_authent_prefix = 

which means no prefix is required.

Do Not! set remote_os_authent to TRUE.   The authentication method is 
quite easily spoofed from client machines.

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Sean,

Not sure how you'd do this on NT, since I don't know how the identified
externally accounts work on NT.

On Unix you can create a user in the database with the same name as one of
the Unix accounts. Default is ops$username, you can change or remove 
the
ops$ requirement via one of the init.ora commands -- (remote_something 
or
other, I'm at home right now and no access to look it up)

grant the privileges necessary to this account, then when you need to log
into the database you can use / to enter username/password:

ex.sqlplus /

and run what you need from cron from this Unix account.

Rachel

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 I have some scripts, O.S. command and SQL, which I use to perform COLD
 backups of DBs and other tasks.  I'm not particularily happy about having
 username/password information in the scripts.  Has anyone come up with a
 way
 to avoid same allowing for the fact the scripts should require no user
 input
 to execute.
 
 
 Sean :)
 
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