RE: Windows vs. UNIX (you are so ready for B*LLSH*T marketing,

2001-05-03 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

It doesn't surprise me that they are focusing on Windows2000 as a platform.

Even while one part of IBM was trying to market OS/2, other parts of IBM
only wanted to support Windows95... and the CEO couldn't make up his mind.
Finally OS/2 became largely irrelevant, it is still fighting to stay alive
but it is in its death throws it seems to me, unless they can get their
hands on the Win9X/ME/NT/2000 API code and integrate it within the OS.

IBM is a services company now - they have been transformed.  They bundle
deals together that match what people (managers, CIOs) request...

It's the only way they can survive, when you think about it.  It's a jungle
out there.

It seems to be working too, since the new President from [Nabisco? Kellogg?
A cigarette company?] took the helm, they went from red ink to black.

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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Subject:Re: Windows vs. UNIX (you are so ready for B*LLSH*T
marketing, *!NOT!*)

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 12:51, Eric D. Pierce wrote:
 Jared,

 Apparently there are super geniuses at IBM may have invented a
time
 machine (along with free underground golf planners) that
explains
 the 90 days business.


The fact that these 'super geniuses' have hitched their carts
to Win2K makes them suspect.

Jared
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Re: Windows vs. UNIX (you are so ready for B*LLSH*T marketing, *!NOT!*)

2001-05-02 Thread Jared Still

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 12:51, Eric D. Pierce wrote:
 Jared,

 Apparently there are super geniuses at IBM may have invented a time
 machine (along with free underground golf planners) that explains
 the 90 days business.


The fact that these 'super geniuses' have hitched their carts
to Win2K makes them suspect.

Jared
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RE: Windows vs. UNIX (you are so ready for B*LLSH*T marketing, *!NOT!*)

2001-05-01 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Well, if I remember details correctly, the subtext of one of the ads 
is actually quite revealing.  

A young CEO/CIO announces, at a company party on the deck of a large 
luxury yacht, that the company is doing well, actually made a profit 
(what a concept!), and had attracted $20 million in additional 
investments.  

Someone asks how a whole bunch of their multinational IT 
infrastucture is going to be completely integrated in the 90 days 
required by the investors, and (after the blank stares from the 
un-tech-savy company faithful) the answer (at the conclusion of the 
ad) is something along the lines of you are *s* ready for 
IBM.  

The unstated subtext is that presumably it will cost most/all of the 
$20 million of investment to get the IBM solution?

regards,
ep

On 1 May 2001, at 6:36, Lord David wrote:

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 Now IBM et al aren't going to spend huge amounts on these ads if they didn't
 think it was worthwhile.  So, what gets me is the implication that company
 directors will buy IBM, not because they have hard evidence that they are
 faster/better/cheaper for their business, but because they get a warm safe
 feeling from ads like these.  Doesn't fill me with much confidence.

...

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