Re:RE: Value of OCP

2003-03-20 Thread dgoulet
Good old Duct Tape, the "handyman's secret weapon"!!

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> Did you learn anything from the previous crash to prevent it from 
> happening again?
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Yes.  Duct tape the power cord to the floor.

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Re:RE: Value of OCP

2003-03-20 Thread dgoulet
I will admit to getting mine simply as part of an ego trip.  I figured that
after 15 years of being an developer/DBA with Oracle I should have one.  Has it
made a difference to my salary or employment potential?  Not one bit.

Dick Goulet

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I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA.  I had been sent to training and
interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA consultant w/o
having the certification.  It was based on my personal reputation,
experience, network and interview.  Those I believe still count more.
However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing altogether well
in the RDBMS market it's all good.  Just get it on the cheap I say.  Also,
it may be the tie breaker for a new job.  I wouldn't expect reimbursement or
automatic job raise on this alone with the market in IT being what it was.  

Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid argument of a
much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired management
type.  

Oracle OCP DBA


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Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager!  After going
through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think any of them
got me a pay increase!  ;)

Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
 


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Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support that
over the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by nearly 40%. In
the same period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly 60%.

A good article on the value of certifications.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp
I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in the
eWeek magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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RE: Value of OCP



I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA.  I had been sent
to training and interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA
consultant w/o having the certification.  It was based on my personal
reputation, experience, network and interview.  Those I believe still count
more.  However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing
altogether well in the RDBMS market it's all good.  Just get it on the
cheap I say.  Also, it may be the tie breaker for a new job.  I
wouldn't expect reimbursement or automatic job raise on this alone with the
market in IT being what it was.  

Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid
argument of a much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired
management type.  

Oracle OCP DBA



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Subject: RE: Value of OCP



Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager! 
After going
through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think
any of them
got me a pay increase!  ;)


Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than
that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
 



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