Re[2]: Couple of questions
Someone coming into where I work with only their OCP as their claim to fame will most likely not get an interview whereas someone with a number of years Oracle experience will. We were pretty badly burned in the recent past by someone who had their OCP as their sole claim to fame. This particular individual tried, but failed, to lord that certificate over everyone else. He lasted a year & two years later we're still picking up the mess. Now an individual with experience and OCP, that's a horse of a different color. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Rahul Dandekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 3/22/2001 8:01 AM > Also for those who have Oracle certification how much database experience > (Oracle in particular) did you have before you obtained certification? > What do you recommend for experience before attempting certification? OCP and Good Oracle DBA are not one of the same things. There might be people who are both. But... OCP does not necessarily mean Good DBA Good DBA, without any exam oriented preparation would not pass OCP so easily. I have heard that ILT notes and STS tests are simplest things to become "Paper OCP" even if you donot have Oracle expertise! I am persuing OCP, Just because after completing it I can commandingly say that OCP is NOT a great achievement. -Rahul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[2]: Couple of questions
Title: RE: Re[2]: Couple of questions Gosh I keep mine hush-hush. It is at the very bottom of my resume... Yes I have it but so what? I didn't claim to know a whole lot about backup and recovery until a couple of months ago when I actually had resources and time to PRACTICE. Yes, Gene, you read it right... Lisa don't know JACK! And now I have to learn SA stuff. YUCK Lots of good that OCP does me with that... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re[2]: Couple of questions Someone coming into where I work with only their OCP as their claim to fame will most likely not get an interview whereas someone with a number of years Oracle experience will. We were pretty badly burned in the recent past by someone who had their OCP as their sole claim to fame. This particular individual tried, but failed, to lord that certificate over everyone else. He lasted a year & two years later we're still picking up the mess. Now an individual with experience and OCP, that's a horse of a different color. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Rahul Dandekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 3/22/2001 8:01 AM > Also for those who have Oracle certification how much database experience > (Oracle in particular) did you have before you obtained certification? > What do you recommend for experience before attempting certification? OCP and Good Oracle DBA are not one of the same things. There might be people who are both. But... OCP does not necessarily mean Good DBA Good DBA, without any exam oriented preparation would not pass OCP so easily. I have heard that ILT notes and STS tests are simplest things to become "Paper OCP" even if you donot have Oracle expertise! I am persuing OCP, Just because after completing it I can commandingly say that OCP is NOT a great achievement. -Rahul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re[2]: Couple of questions
I'd even give latitude to someone who might not know everything, but who has a basic understanding and will logically and carefully research a problem as opposed to hacking away at it until he/she figures it out. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/22/01 12:13PM >>> Gosh I keep mine hush-hush. It is at the very bottom of my resume... Yes I have it but so what? I didn't claim to know a whole lot about backup and recovery until a couple of months ago when I actually had resources and time to PRACTICE. Yes, Gene, you read it right... Lisa don't know JACK! And now I have to learn SA stuff. YUCK Lots of good that OCP does me with that... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Someone coming into where I work with only their OCP as their claim to fame will most likely not get an interview whereas someone with a number of years Oracle experience will. We were pretty badly burned in the recent past by someone who had their OCP as their sole claim to fame. This particular individual tried, but failed, to lord that certificate over everyone else. He lasted a year & two years later we're still picking up the mess. Now an individual with experience and OCP, that's a horse of a different color. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Rahul Dandekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 3/22/2001 8:01 AM > Also for those who have Oracle certification how much database experience > (Oracle in particular) did you have before you obtained certification? > What do you recommend for experience before attempting certification? OCP and Good Oracle DBA are not one of the same things. There might be people who are both. But... OCP does not necessarily mean Good DBA Good DBA, without any exam oriented preparation would not pass OCP so easily. I have heard that ILT notes and STS tests are simplest things to become "Paper OCP" even if you donot have Oracle expertise! I am persuing OCP, Just because after completing it I can commandingly say that OCP is NOT a great achievement. -Rahul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rahul Dandekar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Sawmiller INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).