Removing Oracle products from NT
Hey all, I know that this has been addressed on the list before, so if there's an archive yet (I've been away for a bit) just point me to it. I made the terrible, heinous mistake of 1) installing Personal Oracle 8.1.6 on my laptop, which went well, then 2) installing Oracle Developer 6i on the same laptop. I was unaware that Dev does not play with 8.1, as I have been fortunate enough not to deal with bloody GUI's for many years now. Now, when I try to uninstall 6i, the installer crashes. I can't uninstall the DB, because of registry variables that point to the wrong Oracle home, and when I try to manually change them, nothing works at all. Can I just trash the directories, search for all registry variables and remove them? Or do I need to format the disk? :) Diana Duncan TITAN Technology Partners One Copley Parkway, Ste 540 Morrisville, NC 27560 VM: 919.466.7337 x 316 F: 919.466.7427 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
Diana, Actually 8i does work with Dev 6i, but you have to install Developer first and into the default home then you create a new home for 8i and install it there. To remove Oracle from the machine you do not need to format the drives, just shut down all services and delete the directories..All of the directory's. Then run regedit go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-->SOFWARE and delete the Oracle key, look for anything oracle in the ODBC key and delete it, under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-->SYSTEM-->Current Control Set delete all oracle and under SYSTEM-->Current Control-->eventlog-->application remove all oracle. You may also right click on MyComputer icon go to properties and remove all oracle from the Path key, if Oracle is the only software in there I usually just delete the path key all together. This will give you a clean machine. I believe there is actually a document for this on Metastink. Kev -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hey all, I know that this has been addressed on the list before, so if there's an archive yet (I've been away for a bit) just point me to it. I made the terrible, heinous mistake of 1) installing Personal Oracle 8.1.6 on my laptop, which went well, then 2) installing Oracle Developer 6i on the same laptop. I was unaware that Dev does not play with 8.1, as I have been fortunate enough not to deal with bloody GUI's for many years now. Now, when I try to uninstall 6i, the installer crashes. I can't uninstall the DB, because of registry variables that point to the wrong Oracle home, and when I try to manually change them, nothing works at all. Can I just trash the directories, search for all registry variables and remove them? Or do I need to format the disk? :) Diana Duncan TITAN Technology Partners One Copley Parkway, Ste 540 Morrisville, NC 27560 VM: 919.466.7337 x 316 F: 919.466.7427 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
Trash the directories, kill the registry entries and you're golden. I kill Oracle on windoze all the time this way. Dan -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hey all, I know that this has been addressed on the list before, so if there's an archive yet (I've been away for a bit) just point me to it. I made the terrible, heinous mistake of 1) installing Personal Oracle 8.1.6 on my laptop, which went well, then 2) installing Oracle Developer 6i on the same laptop. I was unaware that Dev does not play with 8.1, as I have been fortunate enough not to deal with bloody GUI's for many years now. Now, when I try to uninstall 6i, the installer crashes. I can't uninstall the DB, because of registry variables that point to the wrong Oracle home, and when I try to manually change them, nothing works at all. Can I just trash the directories, search for all registry variables and remove them? Or do I need to format the disk? :) Diana Duncan TITAN Technology Partners One Copley Parkway, Ste 540 Morrisville, NC 27560 VM: 919.466.7337 x 316 F: 919.466.7427 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ This e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of all known computer viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Center. However, it is still recommended that you use local virus scanning software to monitor for the presence of viruses. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dasko, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
Doc ID: Note:74790.1 Subject: Cleanly Deinstalling RDBMS Software from 95/98/NT Type: BULLETIN Status: PUBLISHED Content Type: TEXT/PLAIN Creation Date: 08-OCT-1999 Last Revision Date: 05-SEP-2000 Language: USAENG Cleanly Deinstalling Oracle RDBMS Software from Windows 95/98/NT Machines Purpose This bulletin explains how to remove Oracle software from a Windows 95, 98, or NT system. Scope & Application --- This bulletin assumes the reader has a thorough understanding of the operating system and the Windows registry. Related Documents - [NOTE:61621.1] Recreating Oracle7 / Oracle8 services and instances from the command line Introduction Removing or deinstalling Oracle software from an 95/98/NT operating system requires several steps to completely creating a 'clean' machine. This document explains what must be done to remove all Oracle software from the system. Warning --- 1) Backup Be careful, because these steps remove all Oracle software, Oracle services, and Oracle registry entries from the system. So it is advisable that you first perform a backup, if required, of certain files like: SQL*Nnet configuration files Database files Self-written scripts that are stored under the oracle home directory, etc. 2) The following procedures require the editing of Windows registry, which is a potentially dangerous operation. There is no undo option in the Registry Editor. Content --- A. 32-bit on Windows NT B. 32-bit on Win95/Win98 C. 16-bit A. 32-bit on Windows NT --- 1. Ensure that you are logged in as a user with Administrator privileges. 2. Stop all Oracle-related services and all Oracle programs. 3. Remove the database services via the oradim command. This can be done via ORADIMXX -DELETE -SID or via the 'SC' tool of the resource kit. For a full explanation on using the ORADIM command, see [NOTE:61621.1]. As from 8.1.6, the method for deinstalling is to first run Net8CA in Deinstall mode, then run DBCA to delete a database, then run OUI to deinstall the products. At this point, all services should be removed. 4. Start the ODBC administrator applet, if installed, and remove any Oracle DSN definitions. 5. Remove the Oracle software via the Oracle installer or the Universal Installer (8.1.5 and onwards). Make sure that all services related to Oracle are stopped first. Note that you cannot remove the installer itself. If Legato Storage Manager is installed on the system, then remove it via the uninstaller executable that is shipped with Legato. Start->Programs->Networker->Uninstall Networker Caution: If Legato Storage Manager was installed independently of Oracle, DO NOT REMOVE LSM, because your system's backup environment may be adversely affected. 6. Start the Event Viewer, Log->Application, and clean up the application logs for Oracle. 7. Start the registry editor. This can be done via regedit or regedt32. a) If the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) was used, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oracle and write down the value of the INST_LOC variable. This shows you where the OUI software is installed. This can then be used to remove the OUI from the machine afterwards. b) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software and remove the ORACLE key, look into the ODBC key for any 'leftovers' of Oracle. If they exist, then remove them as well. c) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and verify that all services that start with 'Oracle' are removed. If this is not the case, then remove the services starting with 'Oracle' (database related) and the ones that start with 'OraWeb' (Oracle Application Server related). No entries will not be removed from the services dialog box until you reboot. d) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\ Application and look for keys that start with 'Oracle'. No
Re: Removing Oracle products from NT
Diana, Get RedHat 7 CD-ROM Insert into CD-ROM drive Reboot and answer promts In reality. To gut the machine of all Oracle stuff. 1. Delete all the stuff in the Oracle directories. 2. Remove all the Oracle stuff from the start menu. 3. BACKUP YOUR REGISTRY!! 4. If you skipped step 3 go back and do step 3. 5. In regedit, remove the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/software/ORACLE key. Then start at the top of the registry and search for oracle, oradac, and orant (if that was the tree your Oracle was installed in). Delete the keys you come to that are associated with these things. 6. Reboot your machine. Oracle is gone now. Start your reinstall. I have found the best way to install the Oracle products is in order of installer version. If you put the Designer/Developer stuff on first and then add the 8i stuff you should be able to get it to work. Seriously if you want to stay away from Windows, Developer 6i is available for Linux (download from technet). You need to have OpenMotif www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ loaded before running the installer. The installer is text mode, but it looks for Motif libs during the install. HTH Rodd Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 5/3/01, 2:16:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Removing Oracle products from NT: > Hey all, > I know that this has been addressed on the list before, so if there's an > archive yet (I've been away for a bit) just point me to it. I made the > terrible, heinous mistake of 1) installing Personal Oracle 8.1.6 on my > laptop, which went well, then 2) installing Oracle Developer 6i on the same > laptop. I was unaware that Dev does not play with 8.1, as I have been > fortunate enough not to deal with bloody GUI's for many years now. Now, > when I try to uninstall 6i, the installer crashes. I can't uninstall the > DB, because of registry variables that point to the wrong Oracle home, and > when I try to manually change them, nothing works at all. Can I just trash > the directories, search for all registry variables and remove them? > Or do I need to format the disk? :) > Diana Duncan > TITAN Technology Partners > One Copley Parkway, Ste 540 > Morrisville, NC 27560 > VM: 919.466.7337 x 316 > F: 919.466.7427 > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RESOLVED: Removing Oracle products from NT
Thanks so much to everyone who replied! It seems to be working now. And, I agree completely with the RedHat idea, but this is my consulting laptop, and Windoze is very much the name of the game. Actually, at home I have RedHat, but I don't have Oracle -- it's running Postgres, which I must say I am LOVING!!! I'm working on a cool little site using Postgres and PHP on Apache and Linux. Open Source Rules! Back to expensive Oracle-land... Diana Duncan TITAN Technology Partners One Copley Parkway, Ste 540 Morrisville, NC 27560 VM: 919.466.7337 x 316 F: 919.466.7427 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rodd Holman genet.com>cc: Sent by: Fax to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Removing Oracle products from NT 05/03/2001 04:18 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Diana, Get RedHat 7 CD-ROM Insert into CD-ROM drive Reboot and answer promts In reality. To gut the machine of all Oracle stuff. 1. Delete all the stuff in the Oracle directories. 2. Remove all the Oracle stuff from the start menu. 3. BACKUP YOUR REGISTRY!! 4. If you skipped step 3 go back and do step 3. 5. In regedit, remove the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/software/ORACLE key. Then start at the top of the registry and search for oracle, oradac, and orant (if that was the tree your Oracle was installed in). Delete the keys you come to that are associated with these things. 6. Reboot your machine. Oracle is gone now. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Removing Oracle products from NT
You can try the Oracle universal Installer to unistall. More rough way is to shutdown oracle db,listener, etc. , shutdown the services, remove/disbale the services. ..and then go to registry and remove everything under (local_machine->software ->oracle) Then you can delete the whole Oracle home tree. The reinstall or whatever you want to do! Believe me , sometimes windows Oracle is a pain,specially cleaing up for a reinstall. But after all we are Unix guys! Just the beat the .. out of windows! Hope I do not trigger another long discussion here! :-) HTH. JyotiGet Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jyoti Randive INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
No not really, but you forgot several steps, the instructions below don't create a completely clean machine. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jyoti RandiveSent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Removing Oracle products from NT You can try the Oracle universal Installer to unistall. More rough way is to shutdown oracle db,listener, etc. , shutdown the services, remove/disbale the services. ..and then go to registry and remove everything under (local_machine->software ->oracle) Then you can delete the whole Oracle home tree. The reinstall or whatever you want to do! Believe me , sometimes windows Oracle is a pain,specially cleaing up for a reinstall. But after all we are Unix guys! Just the beat the .. out of windows! Hope I do not trigger another long discussion here! :-) HTH. Jyoti Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jyoti Randive INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
You wouldn't trigger long discussions :-) if you mention that removal of services is done deleting these services from registry from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetxxx\Services Alex Hillman -Original Message-From: Jyoti Randive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Removing Oracle products from NT You can try the Oracle universal Installer to unistall. More rough way is to shutdown oracle db,listener, etc. , shutdown the services, remove/disbale the services. ..and then go to registry and remove everything under (local_machine->software ->oracle) Then you can delete the whole Oracle home tree. The reinstall or whatever you want to do! Believe me , sometimes windows Oracle is a pain,specially cleaing up for a reinstall. But after all we are Unix guys! Just the beat the .. out of windows! Hope I do not trigger another long discussion here! :-) HTH. Jyoti Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jyoti Randive INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Removing Oracle products from NT
Whew.Here is a slightly quicker version. After making all necessary backups, especially the registry. Stop all your Oracle services, uninstall the Oracle software, delete all the Oracle folders and remove your Oracle .ini files from Win NT boot directory. Then use Registry Ripper http://www.techweb.com/winmag/columns/powertools/ptripper.htm , excellent freeware to easily find all of the Oracle entries, including all the services. (Registry Ripper will allow you to restore the deleted entries) When you reboot, all of the services and Oracle entries will be gone. A clean machine You can also clean the orphan dll's from your system using the excellent free AnalogX - Downloads [DLL Archive] this also will allow you to restore removed dll's. Also here are some other excellent free NT system utilities PricelessSystemUtilities: the best in Windows © System Utilities Freeware . Charles Yuan Oracle DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 918 744 4333 "Eric D. Pierce" wrote: Doc ID: Note:74790.1 Subject: Cleanly Deinstalling RDBMS Software from 95/98/NT Type: BULLETIN Status: PUBLISHED Content Type: TEXT/PLAIN Creation Date: 08-OCT-1999 Last Revision Date: 05-SEP-2000 Language: USAENG Cleanly Deinstalling Oracle RDBMS Software from Windows 95/98/NT Machines Purpose This bulletin explains how to remove Oracle software from a Windows 95, 98, or NT system. Scope & Application --- This bulletin assumes the reader has a thorough understanding of the operating system and the Windows registry. Related Documents - [NOTE:61621.1] Recreating Oracle7 / Oracle8 services and instances from the command line Introduction Removing or deinstalling Oracle software from an 95/98/NT operating system requires several steps to completely creating a 'clean' machine. This document explains what must be done to remove all Oracle software from the system. Warning --- 1) Backup Be careful, because these steps remove all Oracle software, Oracle services, and Oracle registry entries from the system. So it is advisable that you first perform a backup, if required, of certain files like: SQL*Nnet configuration files Database files Self-written scripts that are stored under the oracle home directory, etc. 2) The following procedures require the editing of Windows registry, which is a potentially dangerous operation. There is no undo option in the Registry Editor. Content --- A. 32-bit on Windows NT B. 32-bit on Win95/Win98 C. 16-bit A. 32-bit on Windows NT --- 1. Ensure that you are logged in as a user with Administrator privileges. 2. Stop all Oracle-related services and all Oracle programs. 3. Remove the database services via the oradim command. This can be done via ORADIMXX -DELETE -SID or via the 'SC' tool of the resource kit. For a full explanation on using the ORADIM command, see [NOTE:61621.1]. As from 8.1.6, the method for deinstalling is to first run Net8CA in Deinstall mode, then run DBCA to delete a database, then run OUI to deinstall the products. At this point, all services should be removed. 4. Start the ODBC administrator applet, if installed, and remove any Oracle DSN definitions. 5. Remove the Oracle software via the Oracle installer or the Universal Installer (8.1.5 and onwards). Make sure that all services related to Oracle are stopped first. Note that you cannot remove the installer itself. If Legato Storage Manager is installed on the system, then remove it via the uninstaller executable that is shipped with Legato. Start->Programs->Networker->Uninstall Networker Caution: If Legato Storage Manager was installed independently of Oracle, DO NOT REMOVE LSM, because your system's backup environment may be adversely affected. 6. Start the Event Viewer, Log->Application, and clean up the application logs for Oracle. 7. Start the registry editor. This can be done via regedit or regedt32. a) If the Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) was used, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oracle and write down the value of the INST_LOC variable. This shows yo
RE: Removing Oracle products from NT
I find the following doc on metalink helpful: Note: 124353.1 "How to Manually Remove all Oracle Components on Microsoft Windows Platforms" HTH, -- Anita --- Kevin Kostyszyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No not really, but you forgot several steps, the > instructions below don't > create a completely clean machine. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Jyoti Randive > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:35 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Removing Oracle products from NT > > > You can try the Oracle universal Installer to > unistall. > > More rough way is to shutdown oracle db,listener, > etc. , shutdown the > services, remove/disbale the services. > > ..and then go to registry and remove everything > under > (local_machine->software ->oracle) > > Then you can delete the whole Oracle home tree. > The reinstall or whatever > you want to do! > > Believe me , sometimes windows Oracle is a > pain,specially cleaing up for a > reinstall. But after all we are Unix guys! Just the > beat the .. out of > windows! > > Hope I do not trigger another long discussion > here! :-) > > HTH. > > Jyoti > > > > > > > > -- > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: > Jyoti Randive INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City > Network Services -- (858) > 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California > -- Public Internet access > / Mailing > Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in the message > BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or > the name of mailing list > you want to be removed from). You may also send the > HELP command for other > information (like subscribing). > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: A. Bardeen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).