RE: OT: Tomcat, iAS J2EE, OC4J
Wonderful. I would like to add: 10.1.23.1) After explicitly instructing them not to, have an analyst from the other side of the world call you at home, @ 3a.m., waking up spouse and children in the process. Brian -Original Message- Tanel Poder Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi! > I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between > the way Tomcat works and OC4J works? The first difference that comes into my mind is: Tomcat: 1) you download the software 2) you install it 3) you use it Oracle iAS 1) you download the software 2) you pay $$$ for the license 3) you try to install it 4) you fail and go to iAS administration training 5) you find out, that advanced administration is the course what you need 6) if lucky, you can go to advanced administration as well 7) you try to install it 8) you still fail 9) you pay $$$ for support subscription 10) if [ "$your_wife_has_seen_you_home_during_last_five_days" -eq "1" ]; then 10.1) while [ "$still_hasnt_learned_all_the_small_iAS_installation_issues" -eq "1" ]; do 10.1.1) you try to install it again 10.1.2) you fail miserably again 10.1.3) you contact support and open a TAR 10.1.4) support asks whether your computer is turned on 10.1.5) you tell #$&@! 10.1.6) another analyst from other side of the world contacts you after 6 hours 10.1.7) he asks which version you are trying to install 10.1.8) you answer your version 10.1.9) the analyst recommends you to use the latest version of software 10.1.10) you go out, have a coffee and a cigarette (you gotta buy a pack from local store, because you don't smoke) 10.1.11) you tell the analyst #$&@! 10.1.12) another analyst from a country where is lunchtime when you have 05AM digs up some notes and patches 10.1.13) you try to understand what is meant by "clean your environment" in a note 10.1.14) you fail to understand, get another coffee, go outside and have 3 cigarettes 10.1.15) now you don't care anymore and do exactly what is stated in the note (at least what you think is stated there) 10.1.16) the may relieve your issue somewhat, but you bump to another issue immediately 10.1.17) you update your TAR in metalink 10.1.18) after 2 hours an analyst replies and recommends to open another TAR 10.1.19) done # while 10.1.20) elsif 10.1.21) go home 10.1.22) open your laptop 10.1.23) work from home 10.1.24) next morning go back to step 10.0.0 10.1.25) fi 10.1.26) eventually you manage to install the software 10.1.27) you start using the server and find out that you have missed a tiny preinstall patch or note (which was released yesterday) in metalink and have to go back to step 10, because latter configuration changes aren't supported or simply don't work, ocassionally visiting step 9 as well. Going to each of the steps also involves a new, dynamic "X" step, which means buying a pack of cigarettes from whereever available. Some people even make it to Z-point which means cursing and yelling while typing on your keyboard with extreme speed. So, IMHO, these are the minor differences between the two products. Sincerely, Tanel. P.S. Women may replace "your_wife" with "your_husband" in if-construct and single people could replace with your_friends, your_bartender or similar. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian McGraw INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT: Tomcat, iAS J2EE, OC4J
Hi! > I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between > the way Tomcat works and OC4J works? The first difference that comes into my mind is: Tomcat: 1) you download the software 2) you install it 3) you use it Oracle iAS 1) you download the software 2) you pay $$$ for the license 3) you try to install it 4) you fail and go to iAS administration training 5) you find out, that advanced administration is the course what you need 6) if lucky, you can go to advanced administration as well 7) you try to install it 8) you still fail 9) you pay $$$ for support subscription 10) if [ "$your_wife_has_seen_you_home_during_last_five_days" -eq "1" ]; then 10.1) while [ "$still_hasnt_learned_all_the_small_iAS_installation_issues" -eq "1" ]; do 10.1.1) you try to install it again 10.1.2) you fail miserably again 10.1.3) you contact support and open a TAR 10.1.4) support asks whether your computer is turned on 10.1.5) you tell #$&@! 10.1.6) another analyst from other side of the world contacts you after 6 hours 10.1.7) he asks which version you are trying to install 10.1.8) you answer your version 10.1.9) the analyst recommends you to use the latest version of software 10.1.10) you go out, have a coffee and a cigarette (you gotta buy a pack from local store, because you don't smoke) 10.1.11) you tell the analyst #$&@! 10.1.12) another analyst from a country where is lunchtime when you have 05AM digs up some notes and patches 10.1.13) you try to understand what is meant by "clean your environment" in a note 10.1.14) you fail to understand, get another coffee, go outside and have 3 cigarettes 10.1.15) now you don't care anymore and do exactly what is stated in the note (at least what you think is stated there) 10.1.16) the may relieve your issue somewhat, but you bump to another issue immediately 10.1.17) you update your TAR in metalink 10.1.18) after 2 hours an analyst replies and recommends to open another TAR 10.1.19) done # while 10.1.20) elsif 10.1.21) go home 10.1.22) open your laptop 10.1.23) work from home 10.1.24) next morning go back to step 10.0.0 10.1.25) fi 10.1.26) eventually you manage to install the software 10.1.27) you start using the server and find out that you have missed a tiny preinstall patch or note (which was released yesterday) in metalink and have to go back to step 10, because latter configuration changes aren't supported or simply don't work, ocassionally visiting step 9 as well. Going to each of the steps also involves a new, dynamic "X" step, which means buying a pack of cigarettes from whereever available. Some people even make it to Z-point which means cursing and yelling while typing on your keyboard with extreme speed. So, IMHO, these are the minor differences between the two products. Sincerely, Tanel. P.S. Women may replace "your_wife" with "your_husband" in if-construct and single people could replace with your_friends, your_bartender or similar. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Tomcat, iAS J2EE, OC4J
I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between the way Tomcat works and OC4J works? (or provide a link to a white paper that might enlighten me on the subject). I found this on OTN and am wondering. http://otn.oracle.com/tech/java/oc4j/pdf/java_performance_results.pdf Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
