RE: Unisys Unixware vs W2000
One hint: STAY AWAY FROM UNIXWARE FOR ORACLE! Without QUESTION unixware is going totally bye bye as an Oracle platform and support for patches and such is much slower. If you want to stay on a Unix platform then you can depend on Oracle for Red Hat AS with 9i as a very well serviced platform. The kernelized async IO and other issues are addressed and Oracle is already using Red Hat internally. Oracle has certified configurations that are heavyweight Intel boxes from hardware partners. All that said, it is true that Oracle is really getting behind both Linux AND Windows. I see this internally and externally. The support for Windows 2000 is great and with the right understanding of Oracle on Windows you can get it to perform just as nicely as on Unix (see http://www.dell.com/downloads/us/pedge/sun_oracle.doc as an example). I have worked with customers running on windows with very large systems quite nicely. The pre-RAC problem with oracle on windows was the fact that process size was limited to one 3gig process for all user connections and the SGA. There are many things you can do to address this problem if you are having trouble with the load of users (e.g. orastack, MTS...) but the RAC support in 9i allows you to scale Oracle on windows by quickly adding nodes with absolutely minimal downtime, thus allowing you to spread user load across nodes. Regards, Michael Sale Author: Oracle9i for Windows(R) 2000 Tips & Techniques http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072194626 -Original Message- A Contr OC-ALC/TILC Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, For a couple of years we have been running Oracle on NT on a Unisys server. We are in the process of acquiring a new server (ES7000) and I am pushing for the move to Unix. Now, out of the blue, the Unisys rep is now trying to move us to W2000 instead of Unixware. His claim is that Oracle is starting to pay more attention to Intel machines and W2000 and is improving the performance of Oracle on such platforms. I'll spare you all the prattle ... It seems to me to be a big red flag when the vender tries to steer us away from one of their own products, saying that they are 'focusing on W2000 rather than Unixware'. Question: Is Oracle really increasing the effort it puts into the W2000 platform? I am tired of being at the bottom of the list for patches. Question: If we are locked into a Unisys machine (which we are) would W2000 truly be a better choice than Unixware ? Question: Do I smell a rat? Thanks, Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bond Mike A Contr OC-ALC/TILC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Michael P Sale INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unisys Unixware vs W2000
Mike - Why don't you ask the salesrep for comparative benchmarks for Oracle performance on this hardware under both O.S. choices? If your shop has been doing well with NT and doesn't have much Unix experience, then you might actually (gives me the shivers to say this) be happier with W2K. In my experience, a shop does best supporting the O.S. it is most familiar with. I've seen shops keep some pretty nasty old systems going just because they had years of experience with it. And I've seen shops very unhappy with what most people think of as the top-notch systems but they were starting out from ground zero. Also, is that SCO Unixware? What is the support / future direction like for that one? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, For a couple of years we have been running Oracle on NT on a Unisys server. We are in the process of acquiring a new server (ES7000) and I am pushing for the move to Unix. Now, out of the blue, the Unisys rep is now trying to move us to W2000 instead of Unixware. His claim is that Oracle is starting to pay more attention to Intel machines and W2000 and is improving the performance of Oracle on such platforms. I'll spare you all the prattle ... It seems to me to be a big red flag when the vender tries to steer us away from one of their own products, saying that they are 'focusing on W2000 rather than Unixware'. Question: Is Oracle really increasing the effort it puts into the W2000 platform? I am tired of being at the bottom of the list for patches. Question: If we are locked into a Unisys machine (which we are) would W2000 truly be a better choice than Unixware ? Question: Do I smell a rat? Thanks, Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bond Mike A Contr OC-ALC/TILC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Unisys Unixware vs W2000
Hi, For a couple of years we have been running Oracle on NT on a Unisys server. We are in the process of acquiring a new server (ES7000) and I am pushing for the move to Unix. Now, out of the blue, the Unisys rep is now trying to move us to W2000 instead of Unixware. His claim is that Oracle is starting to pay more attention to Intel machines and W2000 and is improving the performance of Oracle on such platforms. I'll spare you all the prattle ... It seems to me to be a big red flag when the vender tries to steer us away from one of their own products, saying that they are 'focusing on W2000 rather than Unixware'. Question: Is Oracle really increasing the effort it puts into the W2000 platform? I am tired of being at the bottom of the list for patches. Question: If we are locked into a Unisys machine (which we are) would W2000 truly be a better choice than Unixware ? Question: Do I smell a rat? Thanks, Mike -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bond Mike A Contr OC-ALC/TILC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
