Re: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread Connor McDonald


Direct I/O is enabled simply be specifying in the
mount options in /etc/vfstab (on Solaris).  You can do
it even with standard ufs volumes.  As long as you
have vxfs then you can also have vxfs with direct IO

Quick I/O is the separately licensed bit I think - it
should also outperform Direct I/O.

Still - I'm a fan of raw over either...

Cheers
Connor

--- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Connor,
 
 Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the
 Veritas Volume manager
 or the Database edition?? We want to be able to
 avoid double buffering,
 sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our
 SysAdmin insisted that we
 need to purchase the Database edition, I thought
 Direct I/O came with the
 VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct
 I/O to raw ,please
 clarify??
 
 KC
 
 
 -Original Message-
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM
 
 
 
 Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
 without the data being passed through the Unix
 buffer
 cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
 Oracle buffer cache)
 
 Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles -
 it
 presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.
 
 hth
 connor
 
 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear List,
 
  What the difference between qio and direct I/O
  option in Veritas file system VxFS??
 
  KC
 
 
 
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Re: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread KC

Connor,

You have confirmed what I believed to be true, you don't need the Veritas
database edition for direct I/O. Just need to convince our SysAdmin now.

KC


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Direct I/O is enabled simply be specifying in the
mount options in /etc/vfstab (on Solaris).  You can do
it even with standard ufs volumes.  As long as you
have vxfs then you can also have vxfs with direct IO

Quick I/O is the separately licensed bit I think - it
should also outperform Direct I/O.

Still - I'm a fan of raw over either...

Cheers
Connor

--- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Connor,

 Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the
 Veritas Volume manager
 or the Database edition?? We want to be able to
 avoid double buffering,
 sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our
 SysAdmin insisted that we
 need to purchase the Database edition, I thought
 Direct I/O came with the
 VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct
 I/O to raw ,please
 clarify??

 KC


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 Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM


 
 Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
 without the data being passed through the Unix
 buffer
 cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
 Oracle buffer cache)
 
 Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles -
 it
 presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.
 
 hth
 connor
 
 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear List,
 
  What the difference between qio and direct I/O
  option in Veritas file system VxFS??
 
  KC
 
 
 
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RE: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread Hillman, Alex

How do you specify direct I/O option in /etc/vfstab?

Alex Hillman

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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:25 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
VxFS



Direct I/O is enabled simply be specifying in the
mount options in /etc/vfstab (on Solaris).  You can do
it even with standard ufs volumes.  As long as you
have vxfs then you can also have vxfs with direct IO

Quick I/O is the separately licensed bit I think - it
should also outperform Direct I/O.

Still - I'm a fan of raw over either...

Cheers
Connor

--- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Connor,
 
 Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the
 Veritas Volume manager
 or the Database edition?? We want to be able to
 avoid double buffering,
 sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our
 SysAdmin insisted that we
 need to purchase the Database edition, I thought
 Direct I/O came with the
 VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct
 I/O to raw ,please
 clarify??
 
 KC
 
 
 -Original Message-
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM
 
 
 
 Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
 without the data being passed through the Unix
 buffer
 cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
 Oracle buffer cache)
 
 Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles -
 it
 presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.
 
 hth
 connor
 
 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear List,
 
  What the difference between qio and direct I/O
  option in Veritas file system VxFS??
 
  KC
 
 
 
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RE: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread Christopher Spence

Direct I/O is part of the Database Edition. 

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:15 PM
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Connor,

Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the Veritas Volume manager
or the Database edition?? We want to be able to avoid double buffering,
sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our SysAdmin insisted that we
need to purchase the Database edition, I thought Direct I/O came with the
VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct I/O to raw ,please
clarify??

KC


-Original Message-
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM



Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
without the data being passed through the Unix buffer
cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
Oracle buffer cache)

Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles - it
presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.

hth
connor

--- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear List,

 What the difference between qio and direct I/O
 option in Veritas file system VxFS??

 KC



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Re: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread George Schlossnagle

Quick I/O is part of the database edition.  Direct I/O is a generic mount
option for vxfs artition (standard part of vxfs).  Mounting something
convosyn=direct avoids s buffer cache for everything, whereas quick i/o
actually provides an interface for accessing the file as a raw character
device.

George

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 Direct I/O is part of the Database Edition.

 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.

 Christopher R. Spence
 Oracle DBA
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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:15 PM
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 VxFS


 Connor,

 Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the Veritas Volume
manager
 or the Database edition?? We want to be able to avoid double buffering,
 sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our SysAdmin insisted that
we
 need to purchase the Database edition, I thought Direct I/O came with the
 VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct I/O to raw ,please
 clarify??

 KC


 -Original Message-
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM


 
 Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
 without the data being passed through the Unix buffer
 cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
 Oracle buffer cache)
 
 Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles - it
 presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.
 
 hth
 connor
 
 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear List,
 
  What the difference between qio and direct I/O
  option in Veritas file system VxFS??
 
  KC
 
 
 
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RE: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread K Gopalakrishnan


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Use the forcedirectio mount option in the vfstab.


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RE: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-20 Thread Connor McDonald


ufs: forcedirectio
vxfs: convosync=direct,mincache=direct

hth
connor

--- Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  How do you specify direct I/O option in
/etc/vfstab?
 
 Alex Hillman
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:25 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 VxFS
 
 
 
 Direct I/O is enabled simply be specifying in the
 mount options in /etc/vfstab (on Solaris).  You can
 do
 it even with standard ufs volumes.  As long as you
 have vxfs then you can also have vxfs with direct IO
 
 Quick I/O is the separately licensed bit I think -
 it
 should also outperform Direct I/O.
 
 Still - I'm a fan of raw over either...
 
 Cheers
 Connor
 
 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Connor,
  
  Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with
 the
  Veritas Volume manager
  or the Database edition?? We want to be able to
  avoid double buffering,
  sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our
  SysAdmin insisted that we
  need to purchase the Database edition, I thought
  Direct I/O came with the
  VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused
 Direct
  I/O to raw ,please
  clarify??
  
  KC
  
  
  -Original Message-
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM
  
  
  
  Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
  without the data being passed through the Unix
  buffer
  cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
  Oracle buffer cache)
  
  Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles
 -
  it
  presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.
  
  hth
  connor
  
  --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear
 List,
  
   What the difference between qio and direct I/O
   option in Veritas file system VxFS??
  
   KC
  
  
  
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What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-19 Thread KC




Dear List,

What the difference between qio and direct I/O 
option in Veritas file system VxFS??

KC


Re: What the difference between qio and direct I/O option in VxFS

2001-06-19 Thread KC

Connor,

Thanks for the info. Is Direct I/O licensed with the Veritas Volume manager
or the Database edition?? We want to be able to avoid double buffering,
sound like Direct I/O is what we want, however our SysAdmin insisted that we
need to purchase the Database edition, I thought Direct I/O came with the
VxFS file system, maybe the SysAdmin confused Direct I/O to raw ,please
clarify??

KC


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Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:53 AM



Direct IO is the capacity to perform operations
without the data being passed through the Unix buffer
cache (it goes straight to/from the disks to the
Oracle buffer cache)

Quick IO is Veritas's simulation of raw datafiles - it
presents the file to Oracle as if it were raw.

hth
connor

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