RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
I still go to www.oraperf.com and it still greets me with the same interface and provides the same services that it did before Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- Hemant K Chitale Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There certainly _was_ a site called http://oraperf.veritas.com Hemant At 05:59 AM 27-01-04 -0800, you wrote: Anjo So what was the deal with oraperf.veritas.com if you don't mind my asking? I subscribed to it sometime before Christmas, but when I went to use it a week or so ago, it had disappeared and I had to (re)subscribe to www.oraperf.com. -- David Lord -Original Message- From: Anjo Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 13:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report No, the server is in my basement. Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
There certainly _was_ a site called http://oraperf.veritas.com Hemant At 05:59 AM 27-01-04 -0800, you wrote: Anjo So what was the deal with oraperf.veritas.com if you don't mind my asking? I subscribed to it sometime before Christmas, but when I went to use it a week or so ago, it had disappeared and I had to (re)subscribe to www.oraperf.com. -- David Lord -Original Message- From: Anjo Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 13:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report No, the server is in my basement. Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
No, the server is in my basement. Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
- -Original Message- - From: Anjo Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:29 AM - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L - Subject: RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report - - - No, the server is in my basement. why? was it being a bad server?;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Truth is realized in an instant; the Act is practiced step by step. - Zen saying -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
0kay, then the alcohol we were consuming fogged my brain :) getting older is a pain in the butt... I do know I was getting emails from Veritas about the oraperf site. That must be where the confusion lies --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the server is in my basement. Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Anjo So what was the deal with oraperf.veritas.com if you don't mind my asking? I subscribed to it sometime before Christmas, but when I went to use it a week or so ago, it had disappeared and I had to (re)subscribe to www.oraperf.com. -- David Lord -Original Message- From: Anjo Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 13:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report No, the server is in my basement. Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L that's pretty definitive. :) I did say retaining permanent ownership Is Veritas hosting it for you? --- Anjo Kolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, It is mine! Anjo. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nxrgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
If you're new to perl, setting this up might be somewhat difficult. It requires installing DBD::Chart, which in turn requires some graphics libraries to be installed, among them ImageMagic if I recall correctly. Installing ImageMagic can be rather difficult depending on platform. On Linux it is possible to just install the binaries, other platforms may present problems. YYMV Jared Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2004 08:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, Thanks! I'd like to try perl, but I have to admit I am totally naive on this subject. I am thinking to take a course. (free for me) How much efforts in order to set this up? ps, your graph is very impressive. I still have trouble to make the graph from excel. Thanks to Dennis, after I changed text to cloumns, it made a little progress. But I am still struggling to make it work. Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts. It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK. That sound OK Mogens? Jared Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 09:19 AM cc: Please respond to ORACLE-L Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
well, I can't get to the site at the moment to test it.. if I remember correctly, Anjo said he had leased it to Veritas for a couple of years, while retaining permanent ownership. On the other hand, he's on this list, he can confirm or deny that himself! --- Mogens_Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
I've tried to get ahold of Anjo off-list several times. I'm sure he is busy, but I really need to get ahold of him. Can someone off-list ask him to e-mail me at either/both of these addresses? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/04 12:19AM Hi Tim, Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I checked it just now. Mogens Tim Gorman wrote: Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Andert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Jared, Thanks! I'd like to try perl, but I have to admit I am totally naive on this subject. I am thinking to take a course. (free for me) How much efforts in order to set this up? ps, your graph is very impressive. I still have trouble to make the graph from excel. Thanks to Dennis, after I changed text to cloumns, it made a little progress. But I am still struggling to make it work. Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts. It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK. That sound OK Mogens? Jared Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Multiple Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 09:19 AM cc: Please respond to ORACLE-LSubject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Hi Jared, Is this offer open to everybody -:) I would like to get the perl/shell stuff you are referring to. I had problem to install DBI from ActivePerl before (on Windows 2000). I shall try again. Thanks, Quamrul From: Joan Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:19:25 -0800 Jared, Thanks! I'd like to try perl, but I have to admit I am totally naive on this subject. I am thinking to take a course. (free for me) How much efforts in order to set this up? ps, your graph is very impressive. I still have trouble to make the graph from excel. Thanks to Dennis, after I changed text to cloumns, it made a little progress. But I am still struggling to make it work. Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts. It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK. That sound OK Mogens? Jared Joan Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:Multiple Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/22/2004 09:19 AM cc: Please respond to ORACLE-LSubject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk.It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless.I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times.When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECT
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
I run it on Linux. Should work ok on Win2k, though I haven't tried it. The modified YAPPPACK and Perl scripts are at http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/zips/yapp_chart.tgz Works in 8i and 9i. Jared Quamrul Polash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/2004 09:04 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Hi Jared, Is this offer open to everybody -:) I would like to get the perl/shell stuff you are referring to. I had problem to install DBI from ActivePerl before (on Windows 2000). I shall try again. Thanks, Quamrul From: Joan Hsieh Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:19:25 -0800 Jared, Thanks! I'd like to try perl, but I have to admit I am totally naive on this subject. I am thinking to take a course. (free for me) How much efforts in order to set this up? ps, your graph is very impressive. I still have trouble to make the graph from excel. Thanks to Dennis, after I changed text to cloumns, it made a little progress. But I am still struggling to make it work. Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts. It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK. That sound OK Mogens? Jared Joan Hsieh To:Multiple Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients of list ORACLE-L 01/22/2004 09:19 AM cc: Please respond to ORACLE-L Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
I had this same problem. It ended up being that when I opened the file in exel, all the columns from the csv went into one excel column and for some reason it wasn't apparentor something like that. .now if I could only remember what it was I did to fix it. hmmm. ..i think it was some searching and replacing or something. ..that should get you started though. ...sorry for the not so helpful post, but maybe this will trigger something. chris -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Chris Stephens INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Chris - In Excel, click on Data -- Text to Columns. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I had this same problem. It ended up being that when I opened the file in exel, all the columns from the csv went into one excel column and for some reason it wasn't apparentor something like that. .now if I could only remember what it was I did to fix it. hmmm. .i think it was some searching and replacing or something. .that should get you started though. ..sorry for the not so helpful post, but maybe this will trigger something. chris -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Here's a sample chart. These are generated every morning and available via our intranet. http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/yapppack_chart.png Hmmm... Looks like someone is doing a lot of commits at 02:30 and 05:15. Jared Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 09:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
If you're willing to go to the trouble of setting up Perl, DBI, DBD::Oracle, DBD::Chart and its dependent libs ( graphics ), I'll send the Perl/Shell stuff I use to generate charts. It includes some modifications to YAPPPACK. That sound OK Mogens? Jared Joan Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2004 09:19 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
[oracle-l] Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Chris - In Excel, click on Data -- Text to Columns. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I had this same problem. It ended up being that when I opened the file = in exel, all the columns from the csv went into one excel column and for = some reason it wasn't apparentor something like that. .now if I = could only remember what it was I did to fix it. hmmm. .i think it was some searching and replacing or something. .that should get you started though. ..sorry for the not so helpful post, but maybe this will trigger something. chris -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I played YAPPPACK quite often some time ago. I like it very much. But somehow I failed to generate the gif file from the csv file as sample shown. Can someone shade me some light on this? I tied very hard to = make the graphs from the csv file but just don't know how. Thanks, Joan Jared Still wrote: =20 You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. =20 You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to = generate response time graphs for your databases. =20 There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, = but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean = really, who's gonna read all that stuff? =20 Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? =20 Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. =20 JMO, =20 Jared =20 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens N=C3=B8rgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at = one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on = it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something = about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his = opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc = then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be = two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the = installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in = reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of = much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are = using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are = threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=3DF8rgaard?=3D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting = services = - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like = subscribing). =20 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --=20 Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --=20 Author: Joan Hsieh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Helmet, Mogens makes a lot of good points as normal. As usual it's never as simple as we'd like it too be and it depends on how your system runs. One thing that is worth monitoring is changes in statistic values over time. For example if your buffer cache hit ratio is normally 85% during your peak on- line usage but then on it changes to 75% this indicates that something significant has changed and probably needs investigating. It doesn't necessarily mean you have a performance problem because if the users are happy that performance is good and batch is performing as expected then all's OK. (BTW I'm aware that buffer cache hit ratio statistics in isolation aren't a good indicator of performance good or bad.) HTH Cheers, Chris Quoting Mogens Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Chris Dunscombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Helmut, Performance, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Ideal thresholds only exist in poor tuning courses and poor tuning books. IMHO, the wisest thing to do would be to collect information at a time when performance is perfectly satisfactory and use it as a baseline. Then check when there is some _significant_ difference with your baseline. If nobody complains, it means that you can probably allow pretty wide variations for some values. However, if users do really notice (and it's not purely psycho-somatic, as it sometimes is) some degradation, it will be time to enquire. But bear in mind that the most significant indicators will not necessarily be the same ones for all applications, nor even for all times of day. Also, be careful to collect some information about the actual, business-related work being done. I have seen people complaining that they didn't have the same performance as 6 months earlier and forgetting that they were processing twice as many invoices or whatever. Granted, a well-written application should scale. But at least it helps you explain even the most Oracle-challenged manager that it isn't a simple tuning matter (it will be harder to explain that it isn't a question of throwing more hardware to the problem either, but this is another story). HTH Stephane Faroult - --- Original Message --- - From: Daiminger, Helmut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:24:36 Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
You will find a utility add on for statspack at Mogens company site, www.miracleas.dk. It is called YAPPPACK. You can use YAPPPACK ( notice the 3 P's, it is not a typo ) to generate response time graphs for your databases. There are many different numbers to look at in a statspack report, but for day to day monitoring, I find them fairly useless. I mean really, who's gonna read all that stuff? Or spend the rest of his life writing a genetic heuristic artificially intelligent algorithm that is smart enough to determine that something is out of bounds for a particular database? Use YAPPPACK to track response times. When response times spike abnormally, then dig into the statspack data. JMO, Jared On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:54, Mogens Nrgaard wrote: Hi Helmut, There are so many opinions about this that it's hard to point at one specific document or recommendation. If anything, start with stuff written by Graham Wood (who has done a good deal of the work on it), Bjorn Engsig (ditto), or such guys. Also, Tom Kyte has something about it in his new book, so go look on asktom.oracle.com for his opinions about it. If you hope to find threshold numbers for certain values, etc then someone would have automated it a lng time ago. There can be two reasons for this not having happened: It depends on the installation, situation, etc. - or a lot of system-level measurements are in reality useless. That's pretty much my opinion, but thankfully a lot of much smarter people disagree with me. Best regards, Mogens Daiminger, Helmut wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report
Helmut, Register with http://www.oraperf.com; and run those STATSPACK reports through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that they make sense. All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the standpoint of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html;. Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are different, but it'll always be just good old oraperf.com hopefully, no matter who Anjo works for... :-) Hope this helps... -Tim on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
What to look for in STATSPACK report
Hi! We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are using the STATSPACK utility. What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are threshold numbers for these values? Does anybody have any power points or papers about it? This is 9.2 on HP-UX. Thanks, Helmut -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Daiminger, Helmut INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
