create oracle db before or after

2002-08-15 Thread Ron Rogers

List,
 server Alpha ES40
 O.S.  OpenVMS 7.2-1
 Oracle 8.1.7 rel 3

We are starting to migrate our database from a Novell server with
Oracle 7.3.4 to the OpenVMS platform and I have a question that needs
answers or suggestions.

  The sysadmin has set up the required  OS parameters that I could find
listed in the notes and on Metalink. There are a lot of OS patches
recommended by Oracle for this version of the OS and the sysadmin is
looking into them. The sysadmin would like to upgrade the system to OS
7.3 in the near furure (09/02-03/02) rather than apply the patches and
then upgrade the OS down the road.

 What would be the effect on the database if I created a database today
and then the sysadmin upgraded the OS in 2 weeks?  

 Would I have to do any major reconfiguring or rebuilding?

  Would it really matter to the operation of the database? 

 What steps as far as Oracle is concerned should I pay attention to and
perform?

 Would your recommend that I not create the database until after the OS
is upgraded and stable?

Thanks,
Ron
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Re: create oracle db before or after

2002-08-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well, if you can hold off on creating the database until the OS changes
are done, I would, if only to prevent extra work

otherwise after I created the database and before the OS changes
were done I would a) backup all Oracle executables  b) backup the
database c) export the database and backup the dump file

then shutdown the database and let the SA do the upgrade.

Relink the Oracle executables, checking for errors (missing library
files, bad paths etc)

Re-open the database... if the relink went well, you should be able to
just open the database with no problems. If not, you have the backups
to go back to


--- Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List,
  server Alpha ES40
  O.S.  OpenVMS 7.2-1
  Oracle 8.1.7 rel 3
 
 We are starting to migrate our database from a Novell server with
 Oracle 7.3.4 to the OpenVMS platform and I have a question that needs
 answers or suggestions.
 
   The sysadmin has set up the required  OS parameters that I could
 find
 listed in the notes and on Metalink. There are a lot of OS patches
 recommended by Oracle for this version of the OS and the sysadmin is
 looking into them. The sysadmin would like to upgrade the system to
 OS
 7.3 in the near furure (09/02-03/02) rather than apply the patches
 and
 then upgrade the OS down the road.
 
  What would be the effect on the database if I created a database
 today
 and then the sysadmin upgraded the OS in 2 weeks?  
 
  Would I have to do any major reconfiguring or rebuilding?
 
   Would it really matter to the operation of the database? 
 
  What steps as far as Oracle is concerned should I pay attention to
 and
 perform?
 
  Would your recommend that I not create the database until after the
 OS
 is upgraded and stable?
 
 Thanks,
 Ron
 ROR mô¿ôm
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Re: create oracle db before or after

2002-08-15 Thread Ron Rogers

Rachel,
 Thanks for the feedback. I guess that the Oracle/OS upgrade issue and
precautions are the same across all OS's. I am new to OpenVMS and wanted
to make sure that there were not any hidden issues.
Thanks again,
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/15/02 10:38AM 
well, if you can hold off on creating the database until the OS
changes
are done, I would, if only to prevent extra work

otherwise after I created the database and before the OS changes
were done I would a) backup all Oracle executables  b) backup the
database c) export the database and backup the dump file

then shutdown the database and let the SA do the upgrade.

Relink the Oracle executables, checking for errors (missing library
files, bad paths etc)

Re-open the database... if the relink went well, you should be able to
just open the database with no problems. If not, you have the backups
to go back to


--- Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List,
  server Alpha ES40
  O.S.  OpenVMS 7.2-1
  Oracle 8.1.7 rel 3
 
 We are starting to migrate our database from a Novell server with
 Oracle 7.3.4 to the OpenVMS platform and I have a question that
needs
 answers or suggestions.
 
   The sysadmin has set up the required  OS parameters that I could
 find
 listed in the notes and on Metalink. There are a lot of OS patches
 recommended by Oracle for this version of the OS and the sysadmin is
 looking into them. The sysadmin would like to upgrade the system to
 OS
 7.3 in the near furure (09/02-03/02) rather than apply the patches
 and
 then upgrade the OS down the road.
 
  What would be the effect on the database if I created a database
 today
 and then the sysadmin upgraded the OS in 2 weeks?  
 
  Would I have to do any major reconfiguring or rebuilding?
 
   Would it really matter to the operation of the database? 
 
  What steps as far as Oracle is concerned should I pay attention to
 and
 perform?
 
  Would your recommend that I not create the database until after the
 OS
 is upgraded and stable?
 
 Thanks,
 Ron
 ROR mô¿ôm
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