Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Thomas

I see this from time to time on our HP systems.  The terminal emulator on the client 
gets out of
sync with the host, especially in regards to CTL-H and the Backspace key.  I've seen 
this caused by
applications that set the emulator into raw mode (Oracle Applications 10.7 character) 
and then back
as well as su - user ... exit.

That CTL-H trick embedded in a filename is how I test our Jr admins.  Yes... I can be 
a tad evil at
times...

Ron Thomas
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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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> This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try
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> mv *m* anotherfilename
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> You should be able to get at it after that.
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> This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
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> directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
> who created the file .. ( no permission problem )
>
> Any idea ??
>
> -ak
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> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
> total 4
> drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
> -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
> drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread adamdonahue
Are you using vi?  Sometimes if you try to :wq! to a specific name a 
little too quickly, you might accidentally punch in a non-printable 
control character in the filename.

Adam




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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening 
third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print 
any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( 
in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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>
> This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try
>
> mv *m* anotherfilename
>
> You should be able to get at it after that.
>
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
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> This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I 
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see a file in current
> directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
> who created the file .. ( no permission problem )
>
> Any idea ??
>
> -ak
>
>
>
>
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
> total 4
> drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
> -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
> drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread Thomas Day

What type of terminal are you emulating in your telnet session, what is the
value of your TERMINAL environmental variable and what are your stty
settings in your .profile?  I used to use VT110 or VT220 for the terminal.



   

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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening
third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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>
> This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try
>
> mv *m* anotherfilename
>
> You should be able to get at it after that.
>
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
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> This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
> directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
> who created the file .. ( no permission problem )
>
> Any idea ??
>
> -ak
>
>
>
>
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
> total 4
> drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
> -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
> drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
>
> /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
> ak
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread AK
Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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>
> This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try
>
> mv *m* anotherfilename
>
> You should be able to get at it after that.
>
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
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> This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
> directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
> who created the file .. ( no permission problem )
>
> Any idea ??
>
> -ak
>
>
>
>
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
> total 4
> drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
> -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
> drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
>
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
>
> /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
> ak
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Mike Killough
It could have unprintable characters in the name. You can do ls -m, then 
rename the file.

$ ls -m
mytest1.lis, mytest.lis , mytest2.lis
$ mv "mytest.lis " mytest.lis



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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can 
see a file in current directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says 
no such file or directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( no 
permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Arup Nanda



Could it have some special characters in the name? 
Try "cat *" instead.
 
 

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  Subject: how is it possible
  
  This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . 
  When I do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when I try to open 
  it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory .  I am same user who 
  created the file . ( no permission problem )
   
  Any idea ??
   
  -ak
   
   
   
   
   
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls 
  -alt
  total 4drwxrwxrwx   2 
  ak   
  dba 96 
  Oct 23 14:40 .-rwxrwxrwx   1 
  ak   
  dba    412 Oct 
  23 14:40 mon_scrdrwxr-x---  10 ak   
  dba   1024 Oct 13 
  16:07 ..
   /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
  mon_scrcat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or 
directory
   /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
  ./mon_scrcat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or 
  directory
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
  /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoamiak
   


Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread adamdonahue
It probably contains an unprintable control character or an extra space. 
Try doing 

$ ls -li# to get the inode
$ find . -inode   -exec mv {}  \;

or something similar.

Adam




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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can 
see a file in current directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it 
says no such file or directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( 
no permission problem )
 
Any idea ??
 
-ak
 
 
 
 
 
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak

 

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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Ron Thomas

This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.  Try

mv *m* anotherfilename

You should be able to get at it after that.

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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can see a file 
in current
directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory .  I 
am same user
who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak





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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Gorman
Likely there are "non-printing" characters in the name of
the file...

To see them, try "ls -alt | od -c | more".  To view, rename,
or delete the file, use wildcards...


> This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I
> do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when
> I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
> directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( no
> permission problem ) 
> Any idea ??
> 
> -ak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
> total 4
> drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
> -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40
> mon_scr drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13
> 16:07 .. 
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
> 
>  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
> cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
> 
> /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
> 
> /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
> ak
> 
> 
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how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread AK



This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . 
When I do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when I try to open 
it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory .  I am same user who 
created the file . ( no permission problem )
 
Any idea ??
 
-ak
 
 
 
 
 
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4drwxrwxrwx   2 
ak   
dba 96 
Oct 23 14:40 .-rwxrwxrwx   1 
ak   
dba    412 Oct 23 
14:40 mon_scrdrwxr-x---  10 ak   
dba   1024 Oct 13 
16:07 ..
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
mon_scrcat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
./mon_scrcat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or 
directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoamiak
 


RE: How is it possible ???

2001-06-15 Thread Guy Hammond

Decent UPS equipment usually comes with a serial connection and
software. You can tell it to run a script when the UPS signals that it's
switched to internal power, typically this will page someone and might
even run an orderly shutdown. Even though a single UPS can support many
machines, it will generally only be able to signal one by itself. 

A few years ago, I was working for an ISP, we wrote some simple scripts
that would enable the machine connected to the UPS to email other
machines when the power failed, as Unix lets you direct an email to a
program rather than a mailbox. These machines would then do whatever was
necessary to bring their applications down cleanly.

A UPS will give you plenty of warning before it is actually exhausted,
there is ample time to shut down Oracle, but I doubt there would be
enough time to actually run a hot or cold backup onto tape.

g.

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Hi friends,
I want to execute a procedure just before database crash due
to
light failure,etc.
Is there any solution at database or operating system level.???



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Re: How is it possible ???

2001-06-15 Thread Vladimir Begun

On Jun 14, 2001 at 11:55:32PM, Shahid Malik(IT) wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I want to execute a procedure just before database crash due to
> light failure,etc.
> Is there any solution at database or operating system level.???

Do you have UPS? There are some daemons for UPS which are suitable
for such tasks. Ask you vendor.

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How is it possible ???

2001-06-15 Thread Shahid Malik(IT)

Hi friends,
I want to execute a procedure just before database crash due to
light failure,etc.
Is there any solution at database or operating system level.???

TIA
 Shahid Latif.
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