stats and query plans

2003-08-14 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
hi

a very basic question

i have faced this issue a few times in the last couple of weeks. we have a few queries that seem to run remarkable well in rule based optimisation than in choose based optimisation. the queries, with all the object stats collected upto date, never returns a result while when i deleted all stats it returns a result in no time.The plans are diffrent and w/o stats indexes are being used.

when this happens in the same system what are the things i should check. is it not recommended that oracle CBO is the best way to go in performance tuning and query optimisations.then how come rule based turns out to be efficient.surely i havent generated 10053 trace and gone through it but it doesnt make sense why CBO falters. Logically speaking when rule based path gives a result,CBO should choose that explain plan.

can someone throw some light on this

thanks
sai

Re: stats and query plans

2003-08-14 Thread Tanel Poder



Hi!

It's probably because your optimizer_* parameters 
aren't configured properly.
Check http://www.evdbt.com/SearchIntelligenceCBO.doc

Tanel.

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  hi
  
  a very basic question
  
  i have faced this issue a few times in the last couple of weeks. we have 
  a few queries that seem to run remarkable well in rule based optimisation than 
  in choose based optimisation. the queries, with all the object stats collected 
  upto date, never returns a result while when i deleted all stats it returns a 
  result in no time.The plans are diffrent and w/o stats indexes are being 
  used.
  
  when this happens in the same system what are the things i should check. 
  is it not recommended that oracle CBO is the best way to go in performance 
  tuning and query optimisations.then how come rule based turns out to be 
  efficient.surely i havent generated 10053 trace and gone through it but it 
  doesnt make sense why CBO falters. Logically speaking when rule based path 
  gives a result,CBO should choose that explain plan.
  
  can someone throw some light on this
  
  thanks
  sai


Re: stats and query plans

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Richard

Perhaps using an index isn't the best approach?  When you say the queries
run remarkably well how do you define this?  If you are running the query
in TOAD, for example, you might be returning just the first page of results
where CBO has chosen an all rows approach - slower to start but quicker
overall.

I'm not saying this is your problem but it's something to be careful of -
I've been bitten several times in the past when trying to tune something
quickly...  As recently as last week.  It looked great until I realised it
was only the beginning of the result.

Regards,
  Mark.




   
   
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hi

a very basic question

i have faced this issue a few times in the last couple of weeks. we have a
few queries that seem to run remarkable well in rule based optimisation
than in choose based optimisation. the queries, with all the object stats
collected upto date, never returns a result while when i deleted all stats
it returns a result in no time.The plans are diffrent and w/o stats indexes
are being used.

when this happens in the same system what are the things i should check. is
it not recommended that oracle CBO is the best way to go in performance
tuning and query optimisations.then how come rule based turns out to be
efficient.surely i havent generated 10053 trace and gone through it but it
doesnt make sense why CBO falters. Logically speaking when rule based path
gives a result,CBO should choose that explain plan.

can someone throw some light on this

thanks
sai



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