Re: where should i start to learn to become a DBA?
Shuan, Welcome. Being a DBA is not rocket science neither is it childs play. Reading, testing, experimenting on a dev instance is the way to go. We all started out at some point like you. We all do it and will continue to do so cos: we tend to forget, newer versions/ patches come out, diferent books and papers have different useful ideas, My advice is dont try to grasp too much too quickly although we all like to do that sometimes. Read and understand what you doing properly before you advance to the next chapter. And start with the B A S I C S. I would not sugest to u buying any books or taking any courses right away. Learn on your own first and then take courses later so u have a more clearer picture when u take the classes. A good place to start is the Oracle Concepts Guide and then move on to the Oracle Administrators Guide. Also ask questions to clear any doubts. Just my thoughts. Let see what the others have to say. Cheers Suhen On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:53, you wrote: Hi DBAs! I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. I did read some Oracle reference books, searching the web to find more about Oracle, and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for already few months. I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in Oracle, RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. To be honest, i don't think i learn much. Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. Well...i don't read books page by page, i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm going in the correct way. It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) So, can you guys give me some advices of which section should i start as a beginner? What's the next? and so on...and so on... Or any links to point to? mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is corporate DB Server, shh...) Thanks for any advices. Have a nice day! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Suhen Pather INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: where should i start to learn to become a DBA?
very well said Shuan... u have precisely said what and how ppl should go about the learning process...and as u have mentioned it does not apply to just beginners but experience ppl also.. as knowledge has no endwe have to keep learning and upgrading ourselves... In fact the practical aspect of learning is most important... rgds, Ams. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Suhen |Pather |Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM |To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L |Subject: Re: where should i start to learn to become a DBA? | | |Shuan, | |Welcome. Being a DBA is not rocket science neither is it childs play. |Reading, testing, experimenting on a dev instance is the way to go. | |We all started out at some point like you. | |We all do it and will continue to do so cos: |we tend to forget, |newer versions/ patches come out, |diferent books and papers have different useful ideas, | |My advice is dont try to grasp too much too quickly although |we all like to do |that sometimes. Read and understand what you doing properly |before you |advance to the next chapter. And start with the B A S I C S. | |I would not sugest to u buying any books or taking any courses |right away. |Learn on your own first and then take courses later so u have |a more clearer |picture when u take the classes. | |A good place to start is the Oracle Concepts Guide and then |move on to the |Oracle Administrators Guide. Also ask questions to clear any doubts. | |Just my thoughts. Let see what the others have to say. | |Cheers |Suhen | | |On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:53, you wrote: | Hi DBAs! | | I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. | And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. | I did read some Oracle reference books, searching the web to |find more | about Oracle, | and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for | already few months. | | I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). | When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in | Oracle, | RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. | | To be honest, i don't think i learn much. | Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. | Well...i don't read books page by page, | i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. | But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm |going in the | correct way. | It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. | ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) | So, can you guys give me some advices of | which section should i start as a beginner? | What's the next? and so on...and so on... | Or any links to point to? | | mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. | Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is |corporate DB | Server, shh...) | | Thanks for any advices. | Have a nice day! |-- |Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com |-- |Author: Suhen Pather | INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 |San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists | |To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message |to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in |the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L |(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may |also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). | | | -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Amjad Saiyed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: where should i start to learn to become a DBA?
In my case, I was invited to a meeting attended by 6 people. The meeting room had 5 chairs. When the new CIO asked who wants to be the DBA?, I was the only one standing. P.S. I really wanted to be the systems programmer. From: shuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: where should i start to learn to become a DBA? Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:53:19 -0800 Hi DBAs! I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. I did read some Oracle reference books, searching the web to find more about Oracle, and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for already few months. I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in Oracle, RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. To be honest, i don't think i learn much. Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. Well...i don't read books page by page, i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm going in the correct way. It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) So, can you guys give me some advices of which section should i start as a beginner? What's the next? and so on...and so on... Or any links to point to? mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is corporate DB Server, shh...) Thanks for any advices. Have a nice day! _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Martin Brown INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: where should i start to learn to become a DBA?
Well you started off in the best position for a DBA Martin, looking down on the rest of them :) John -Original Message- Sent: 25 July 2002 14:04 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In my case, I was invited to a meeting attended by 6 people. The meeting room had 5 chairs. When the new CIO asked who wants to be the DBA?, I was the only one standing. P.S. I really wanted to be the systems programmer. From: shuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: where should i start to learn to become a DBA? Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:53:19 -0800 Hi DBAs! I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. I did read some Oracle reference books, searching the web to find more about Oracle, and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for already few months. I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in Oracle, RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. To be honest, i don't think i learn much. Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. Well...i don't read books page by page, i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm going in the correct way. It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) So, can you guys give me some advices of which section should i start as a beginner? What's the next? and so on...and so on... Or any links to point to? mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is corporate DB Server, shh...) Thanks for any advices. Have a nice day! _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Martin Brown INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Hi Lesson learned: Always bring camping chairs to meetings. Regards, Stefan Jahnke Consultant BOV Aktiengesellschaft Voice: +49 201 - 4513-298 Fax: +49 201 - 4513-149 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] visit our website: http://www.bov.de subscribe to our newsletter: http://www.bov.de/presse/newsletter.asp Behalten Sie den Ueberblick - mit dem neuen BasicOverView, unserer Seminaruebersicht fuer das 2. Halbjahr 2002. Sie haben noch kein Exemplar? Schreiben Sie eine E-Mail an mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] oder rufen Sie uns an unter 0 18 03 / 73 64 62 73! Wie Sie wissen, koennen ueber das Internet versandte E-Mails leicht unter fremden Namen erstellt oder manipuliert werden. Aus diesem Grunde bitten wir um Verstaendnis dafuer, dass wir zu Ihrem und unserem Schutz die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der vorstehenden Erklaerungen und Aeusserungen ausschliessen. As you are probably aware, e-mails sent via the Internet can easily be copied or manipulated by third parties. For this reason we would ask for your understanding that, for your own protection and ours, we must decline all legal responsibility for the validity of the statements and comments given above. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juli 2002 15:04 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: Re: where should i start to learn to become a DBA? In my case, I was invited to a meeting attended by 6 people. The meeting room had 5 chairs. When the new CIO asked who wants to be the DBA?, I was the only one standing. P.S. I really wanted to be the systems programmer. From: shuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: where should i start to learn to become a DBA? Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:53:19 -0800 Hi DBAs! I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. I did read some Oracle reference books, searching the web to find more about Oracle, and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for already few months. I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in Oracle, RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. To be honest, i don't think i learn much. Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. Well...i don't read books page by page, i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm going in the correct way. It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) So, can you guys give me some advices of which section should i start as a beginner? What's the next? and so on...and so on... Or any links to point to? mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is corporate DB Server, shh...) Thanks for any advices. Have a nice day! _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Martin Brown INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stefan Jahnke INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
where should i start to learn to become a DBA?
Hi DBAs! I'm working as a System Programmer for only one year. And i'm interested to Oracle, wish to become DBA like you guys. I did read some Oracle reference books, searchingthe web to find more about Oracle, and of course, here in this list, reading you guys' experiences for already few months. I've keep trying to learn the Oracle by myself(good or bad?). When face problems, trying to play around myself here and there in Oracle, RTFM, FAQs...anything that can find the similar problem. To be honest, i don't think i learn much. Maybe it's because i don't know the proper way to learn it. Well...i don't read books page by page, i only read those i'm curious at the beginning. But i feel i'm getting confusing. I don't know whether i'm going in the correct way. It's so many times that i have to reinstall the Oracle. ('Cos i dun know how to make it running again, a lot of errors.) So, can you guys give me some advices of which section should i start as a beginner? What's the next? and so on...and so on... Or any links to point to? mm...I'm playing with Oracle 8.1.6 in Win2000 on my PC. Sometimes...play around with Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux(Which is corporate DB Server, shh...) Thanks for any advices. Have a nice day!