[OGD] Orchid citation

2004-08-11 Thread G. D. Pike
While writing a brief article on Caularthron bicornutum recently for our
Orchid Society Bulletin I noticed that there is disagreement among the
authorities on the appropriate citation for this species. Some quote it as C.
bicornutum (Hook) Rafinesque, while others use C. bicornutum (Hook) R.E.
Schultes. As Rafinesque is credited with establishing the Caularthron genus
and moving Epidendrum bicornutum as described by Sir William Hooker into the
new genus, I was wondering what subsequent taxonomic revisions were made by
Richard Schultes that justified the amended citation. My limited reference
sources do not mention any such change. Can anyone spread some light on this
matter?



Des Pike

Darwin, Northern Territory
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[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 324

2004-08-11 Thread GRORCHIDS
Andy, in Vol. 6, Issue 319, of the OGD you say bWhat AOS needs right now is
strong and prudent financial management combined with an optimistic vision of
the future. That is what it is getting b&.b from Messrs. Brown and
Griesbach,
the past two presidents. But what is their leadership legacy? A badly wounded
AOS.  Whatever happened to the rosy promises of the great services to be
provided to the membership after the new headquarters were operating? Are we
better
served now than we were in the past? They have not given the membership any
report on the financial situation of the society and the problems it faces or
any concrete plan for addressing the problems.  Instead, the attitude of our
leaders seems to be bjust send us money but donbt ask us to reveal the
extent of
our need or what we are doing with what we get.b Does that attitude inspire
confidence in management or much of a desire to help? No wonder the dismal
record of the fund-raising efforts.
  Letbs look at what we hear from the grapevine. On the watch of
Brown and Griesbach, the financial situation of the AOS has deteriorated
greatly.
Donbt blame it on the economy; the problems are structural. Two main sources
of revenues, advertising in Orchids and sales of books, are beset by heavy
competition from the internet.  The internet also is a rapidly growing free
alternative source of all sorts of information about orchids. Investment
income has
fallen sharply in line with the dramatic reduction in the investment portfolio
from its level a few years ago. Net income from Emporium sales and from the
use of the AOS site as a tourist attraction and as a venue for special events
would appear to offer little ground for optimism. Membership numbers have been
on a downward trend (the recent small reversal probably is no more than a
brief blip due to transitory factors). The increases in membership dues should
produce some net gain in income but at the cost of some yet-to-be-determined
loss
of membership. Shrinking the membership is hardly a remedy for an
organization whose purpose is to spread the word about the joys from orchids,
their
culture and conservation. Awards fees have been increased, but that
discourages
wider use of the judging system. Expenses have been cut to the bone, but at
the
expense of cutbacks in services and pursuit of important missions. bLess is
more
b seems to be the motto of our leadership. The headquarters facility is
expensive to operate and maintain and, being of a specialized design, is not
very
saleable.
If an unprofitable business corporation provided its shareholders with as
little information as the AOS has provided, and especially if a credible plan
for
action was not forthcoming, rumors would be rife, the price of the companybs
stock would plummet, shareholders would rebel, and the SEC would be launching
an investigation of the corporationbs books and management. And yet, Andy,
in
a comparable situation, you ask us to be patient and trusting.
On top of all this, does the slate of nominees for the top offices of the AOS
inspire confidence? To take the worst example, letbs look at the bio of the
nominee for Executive Vice President. Does the btough copb image that many
have of him inspire confidence that he will be a consensus builder? And his
occupational record seems to be limited to having served on the Los Angeles
police
force at a below-captain rank. The impression is widespread that he hijacked
the Nominating Committee and got himself nominated to the second highest
position in the organization. Yet Carlos Fighetti, whose background combines
considerable management and organizational experience with an exceptional
knowledge
of orchids and contacts in orchid communities worldwide, was not nominated for
executive vice president, contrary to every expectation. It is true that
Fighetti stated that, if Bronstein was not to be advanced to the presidency,
he
would not be willing to leapfrog the executive vice presidency into the
presidency at Howardbs expense. He astutely appreciated that, as a president
so
nominated, it would be politically impossible for him to provide the
leadership
needed.  He never stated that he would not accept the executive vice
presidency if
it should be offered to him. But it was not b it was given to Rassmann. The
entire nominating process this year exacerbated already extensive
disillusionment with the AOS. And yet, Andy, you say we should just trust the
wisdom and
optimistic vision of the two leaders you mentioned. Tell us why, Andy. There
are
two sides to every story. Letbs hear yours as to why there is a credible
basis
for optimism that the AOS under the new president and executive vice
president, whose election is a foregone conclusion under the existing proxy
rules,
will recover and better serve its members.
Maybe things would be no better under Bronstein and Fighetti, but some
suspect that they have been sacrificed to draw attention away from the lack of
presidential 

Re: [OGD] Nutrient Levels

2004-08-11 Thread Davek
Thanks, Martin

>My impression is that plants in the wild grow much more slowly than those 
>in cultivation.  When you see a large plant in the wild it may have taken 
>10 or 15 years to get to that size.
>
>As far as the length of roots go, putting a plant in a pot limits what the 
>roots can do.  As the plant (and the pot) get bigger the roots (especially 
>in the center part of the plant) can stay wet longer and get less 
>oxygen.  When Cattleyas get to specimen size they do better in a slatted 
>basket with a very loose potting mix.
>
>Personally I find that my Cattleyas (and just about everything else) do 
>best with at least 150 ppm nitrogen, provided that they are flushed 
>thoroughly to prevent salt build-up.  Also, the more light the better (but 
>don't burn the leaves).  With modern HID lamps it is possible to provide 
>plants with far more light than they get in the wild: long cloudless days.
>
>Martin
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[OGD] back again on Guido

2004-08-11 Thread dorris
gee whiz...here I am back again and likely before the stuff I have written has even 
seen print..tho the first has..and hard to read due to its being on a wide 
format..hope this is not.
Did I say that Dorris and I love Guido?  Hope so.Did I say that YOU do not know him ?  
Hope so...Why should I, beloved by the
millions (a leagend in his own mind) stand up for Guido?...guess what?  GET TO KNOW 
HIM...forget him getting pissed off by those who have not the wit nor the background 
to stand up to him face to face..SURE he has teased me to death...when I did not 
measure up to my potential..and why not?  Will we miss himDamn right?  will we 
miss those jerks who did it?  NO...cause they will be in our face every day, day after 
day..doing the same thing to every
writer who they feel does not agree with them or their priorities...DID IT EVER OCCUR 
TO YOU that all this could have been off line?? THAT is where I take all MY 
screaming to a person...SO WHY.??? To hurt and to injure...SORRY to say..Guido 
will NEVER learn to just grin and bare it..AND...most importantly...suffer fools 
lightly..even those who do not derserve his derision..BUT off stage...they could have 
come to common ground...HOW do I know..cuz I KNOW Guido...YOU DO NOT...full stop..YOU 
DO NOT..Those of you who have done this would have done the same toWell names come 
to mind that would have caused me problems..so let it be..JUST GO AWAY>>>YOU are not 
wanted...GO AWAY  

 

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[OGD] Re: water pH and temperature

2004-08-11 Thread Nicholas Plummer
Peter O'Byrne wrote:
> Conclusion; something else is causing your pH change. Have you got any
algae
> or other plants growing in your container ? They would proliferate in the
> light, respiring and giving off carbon dioxide, which would dissolve in
the
> water, making it more acidic.

Algae and plants would photosynthesize in the light, producing oxygen and
consuming CO2.  That would increase pH.  In the dark, the plants give off
CO2 and lower the pH.  The effect can be quite dramatic in heavily planted
aquaria.  If Olga is seeing a pH decrease in the light and increase in the
dark, plants aren't the cause.

I would be curious to know the hardness of Olga's water.  If it is rainwater
or RO water with very little buffering capacity, then very subtle changes
can result in wild fluctuation of pH.

Nick
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[OGD] Psychopsis Mendenhall

2004-08-11 Thread Colin.Hamilton
Michael wrote:
.I'm new to the list (it seems to have been an unusual time to join).  I grow
>a hodge podge of catts, cymbidiums, oncidiums, paphs and phals.
>
>I've recently got a young Psychopsis Mendenhall 'Hildos'.  It was said to be
>a large seedling, and it really isn't that big; the larger growth is only a
>little more than 5" tall, and it's about a third larger than the previous
>growth (there are three in total).  I repotted it after I brought it home,
>which I didn't think it enjoyed at all, but low it has started to spike.
>Does anyone know if these plants have a habit of blooming on young plants?

Michael
I would not say a 5" plant of Psychopsis Mendenhall is "small" in terms of
maturity nor stature.  It is beginning to spike, so it must be mature.  DO NOT
cut or break the inflorescence, whatever you do!  It can flower sequentially
for a long time.  One of mine flowered for two years - even branching and
continusing to flower after I accidently broke the top off the inflorescence.
Flowering slows in colder months (but then I grow in a shadehouse in the
tropics).

As you have noted, the DO NOT like to be repotted/disturbed.  I grew mine in
straight fine grade charcoal.

Colin Hamilton
Webmaster
Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"
Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
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[OGD] Perlite again

2004-08-11 Thread Colin.Hamilton
Iris wrote
>However, there is very strong world wide production and consumption of
perlite.
>Other leading countries producing perlite include China, Greece, Japan,
>Hungary, Armenia, Italy, Mexico, Philippines, and Turkey.
>
>I have always used perlite in houseplant and orchid mixes. I don't use it for
>bonsai because it floats to the top.
>Iris

Unfortunately the only Perlite available here in Australia is a very fine
grade - not the larger grade I have seen used in nurseries in the USA.  Ours
tends to settle and clog open mixes.

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Webmaster
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Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
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[OGD] Miltonia xanthinia

2004-08-11 Thread Jose A. Izquierdo
A net search yielded this page http://www.orchideepassion.com/vb/index
html?p1692.html.

As you can see the flowers do not resemble Miltonia flavescens.  The it hit
me ; the description of the flower in the page.

" Importi du Brisil sous ce nom. Non ripertorii. Nouveauti ou nom erroni ?
De toute fagon, sa fleur est iblouissante" 

which if memory doesn't fail me translates  as  

"Imported Brazil under this name. Not indexed. Innovation or erroneous name?
In any event, its flower is dazzling. ".

Something in the photo gives the impression the flower is that of a hybrid,
a beautiful one  to wit.

Jose
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[OGD] Sorry

2004-08-11 Thread dorris
Truly sorry for going off the deep end for a buddy...I should not have become just as 
abusive as SOME OF YOU...even to include Guido..Who I have remonstrated with over his 
losing control...but like him...and believe me,,,I have spent days on end with him and 
loved every minute...He does love a glass or two..and I read all the stuff in the 
Guide (lecturing here in Florida and away from the placid Hawaii environment) and did 
have more than a few glasses of very good chardoneyand to be fair..maybe said a 
few words in conclusion that I regret...Screw you is not a nice thing to say even when 
it is directed to just anybody..no certain person...so I will retract that (mind you I 
have had two more glasses since...and say..ONLY those who really deserve it should 
do what kerrys wife and our good vice president suggest...AHHH I now feel a lot 
better...HATE ME???  All those who agree immediately write in...Those who 
disagree..remember..we now know who you are...JEEESSHHH  I hate myself for saying any 
of this...;but REMEMBER...I now have had seven glasses...and ONLY because...I love the 
guy...(I am married happily to Dorris.) and she equally adores him...(Long pause here) 
 So who should quit ?  Hi Carsonet alii...(for those who KNOW latin...full 
stop...Bill Bergstrom..who will never regret knowing  and admiring Guido... 

 

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[OGD] Guido

2004-08-11 Thread dorris
Well I have done this before...and with success..For all of you who have continually 
put it in his face...drop dead..and this from a guy who NEVER wants to be 
controversial..just right..YOU who have continually harrassed him...have no idea who 
he is or what he is..unfortunately...he IS controversial..so if you do NOT like 
controversy..GO SOMEWHERE ELSE...full stop...I personally, have lived with the man..MY 
WIFE DORRIS LOVES HIM...spots and all...you know why?  Because, as Kenneth knows, he 
is a loving and caring person...NOT like those of you who have persecuted him knowing 
that he would respond with derision on his on..NOT TO FRIENDS,  assure you..TOUGH 
BEANS..I love the guy and hang on every word..FUNNY those who shaft him really are 
sounding like jerks..so go away...there are other places for you..places where YOU 
will be happy...I am happy with concise and true taxonomic verbage that does not 
result (hopefully) in derision..ALL THIS SAID...I admit..sometimes he goes off the 
deep end far too quickly..BUT...guess what..you CAN reply personally and win a 
FRIEND  as I HAVE..and those who chased him away..SCREW YOU 

 

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[OGD] Nutrient Levels

2004-08-11 Thread Martin Epstein
Davek wrote:
You see pictures of orchids in the wild with extensive root systems;
Cattleyas for example with roots extended several meters along the trunk
and branches of the host tree.
My impression is that plants in the wild grow much more slowly than 
those in cultivation.  When you see a large plant in the wild it may 
have taken 10 or 15 years to get to that size.

As far as the length of roots go, putting a plant in a pot limits 
what the roots can do.  As the plant (and the pot) get bigger the 
roots (especially in the center part of the plant) can stay wet 
longer and get less oxygen.  When Cattleyas get to specimen size they 
do better in a slatted basket with a very loose potting mix.

Personally I find that my Cattleyas (and just about everything else) 
do best with at least 150 ppm nitrogen, provided that they are 
flushed thoroughly to prevent salt build-up.  Also, the more light 
the better (but don't burn the leaves).  With modern HID lamps it is 
possible to provide plants with far more light than they get in the 
wild: long cloudless days.

Martin
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[OGD] Dr Braem

2004-08-11 Thread na055388
 I support Dr. Braem staying on the list.  I think that the flaming gets 
too intense sometimes. I find many of our contributors very interesting and I 
have learned a lot about taxonomy from Dr. Braem and I think his Paphiopedalums 
book is a good read.
Yours truly,
Nancy
USDA Zone 9b
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Re: [OGD] water pH and temperature

2004-08-11 Thread pgordini
Does your pH meter have a temperature compensation function?
Paul

-- Original message -- 

> Olga Caussade asked why her water has a pH of 6.5 when stored in the dark, 
> but has a pH of 5 and is 10 degrees C warmer when kept in the light. 
> 
> Olga, I tried doing the maths & your numbers didn't work out. Basically, the 
> pH of any sample of water varies with the temperature. As the temperature 
> rises, the pH decreases because the solution becomes more acidic, and it 
> becomes less acidic as the temperature falls, which is what you observed. 
> Unfortunately, you'd need a hell of a lot more than a 10 degree rise to drop 
> the pH by 1.5 degrees, so something else must be happening in your water. 
> 
> Water always contains dissolved carbon dioxide, which makes it acidic. As 
> the temp rises, less carbon dioxide dissolves, so the pH rises (water 
> becomes less acidic). This effect runs in the opposite direction to the 
> pH/temperature effect, and if my assumptions about your water and maths are 
> right, this would more or less cancel out the drop in pH caused by your 10 
> degree temp rise. 
> 
> Conclusion; something else is causing your pH change. Have you got any algae 
> or other plants growing in your container ? They would proliferate in the 
> light, respiring and giving off carbon dioxide, which would dissolve in the 
> water, making it more acidic. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Peter O'Byrne 
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[OGD] Re: Miltonia flavescens?

2004-08-11 Thread leo . schordje
In a message dated 8/11/04 6:06:12 AM, Marianne writes:
> Miltonia xanthina, nice fleshy star-shaped yellow flowers,
>
Marianne, look at the descriptions of Miltonia flavescens - the meaning of
the specific name is roughly the same, Yellow colored.  Jay Pfahl's website
has a good photo.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/

Leo
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[OGD] "Orquideas Nativas del Tachira"

2004-08-11 Thread Steven Beckendorf
Julie Carbonell wrote:
"Orquideas Nativas del Tachira"
What a wonderful book!
A must for any orchid library or orchid nut
The amount of information is awesome, well written and concise, easy to
understand even for those who have no knowledge of Spanish. The pictures,
quite good, with excellent true colors.
And the book itself, a joy to read, good quality paper and binding, good
type size, easy to read and the information readily available.
 >As a fellow Venezuelan I'm very proud of this book the work of Ing. Agro.
Cesar Fernandez
I'd like to agree with Julie's praise for this book.  The author, 
Cesar Fernandez, travelled throughout Tachira, the westernmost state 
of Venezuela, searching all orchid habitats to make as complete an 
inventory as possible.  In doing so, he found several completely new 
species (Telipogons, Cyrtochilums, Lepanthes - maybe a few others) as 
well as species not reported from Tachira or from Venezuela.  The 
species are described in a standard format that includes habitat 
information and nearly every one has a good color photo of the 
flower.  The introductory sections that describe the organization of 
the book and the format of the individual entries are in both Spanish 
and English, so as Julie said, even non Spanish speakers will be able 
to understand most of the rest of the book.

Now that we know that George Norris is distributing the book, it's 
possible to reward Cesar for a wonderful accomplishment while helping 
George at the same time.

For those in northern California, Cesar will be speaking at the 
September meeting of the Orchid Society of California, September 20 
at the Garden Center at Lake Merritt in Oakland.

--
Steve Beckendorf
Berkeley, California
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RE: [OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 325 (orquideas Nativas del Táchira)

2004-08-11 Thread George Norris
Cesar's book "Orquideas Nativas del Tachira" is a wonderful reference book
with over 200 great color photos. The Spanish is easy to understand and it
shows Cesar's great love of Orchids. And all our copies are signed by the
author. This book was over 3 years in the writing. I can highly recommend
this book.

George


> George is my "manager in that part of the world". I would like George
> give us a little comment on this survey.
>
> Cisar Fernandez
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[OGD] Re: Dr. Braem

2004-08-11 Thread DennisWestler
> "it was the personal, baiting attacks of a few immature people on the
> list, simply to get a rise from another person to the point they had no
> option left but use profanity."

-It was in fact the sincere request of a hobbyist about Habenaria rhodochila 
that started this whole thing. Guido's inappropriate, condescending response 
brought the same old flamers and trolls out of the woodwork, as they know how 
easy it is to push his buttons.

It is a shame that someone so charming in public, and so well respected 
academically, can be so immature online. But we have all seen this in other venues. 
Those who jumped on the chance to goad him further (and we all know who they 
are) are beneath contempt, and have never been the source of knowledge Guido 
was.   
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[OGD] water pH and temperature

2004-08-11 Thread Peter O'Byrne
Olga Caussade asked why her water has a pH of 6.5 when stored in the dark,
but has a pH of 5 and is 10 degrees C warmer when kept in the light.

Olga, I tried doing the maths & your numbers didn't work out. Basically, the
pH of any sample of water varies with the temperature. As the temperature
rises, the pH decreases because the solution becomes more acidic, and it
becomes less acidic as the temperature falls, which is what you observed.
Unfortunately, you'd need a hell of a lot more than a 10 degree rise to drop
the pH by 1.5 degrees, so something else must be happening in your water.

 Water always contains dissolved carbon dioxide, which makes it acidic. As
the temp rises, less carbon dioxide dissolves, so the pH rises (water
becomes less acidic). This effect runs in the opposite direction to the
pH/temperature effect, and if my assumptions about your water and maths are
right, this would more or less cancel out the drop in pH caused by your 10
degree temp rise.

Conclusion; something else is causing your pH change. Have you got any algae
or other plants growing in your container ? They would proliferate in the
light, respiring and giving off carbon dioxide, which would dissolve in the
water, making it more acidic.

Cheers,

Peter O'Byrne
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[OGD] RE: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 325 (orquideas Nativas del Táchira)

2004-08-11 Thread Cesar Fernandez
For those US residents, my book about orqumdeas nativas del Tachira is
available by mean George Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,who have some copies.
George is my "manager in that part of the world". I would like George
give us a little comment on this survey.
We had 30 years without orchid inventory, now German Carnevali is doing
an extraordinary study on Amazonas orchids. Our survey was done in the
SW of Venezuela and you can see 418 Venezuelan species.

Cisar Fernandez
Avenida Espaqa Urbanizacisn Campo Alegre N: 0-229
San Cristsbal, Estado Tachira- Venezuela
Cell: 0414-706.6509
Phone: 011-58-276-356.3830
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RE: [OGD] Dr Braem leaving

2004-08-11 Thread George Norris
BYE, OLGA!
>
> Good afternoon,
> I regret that Dr Braem leaves this list. He has always help me with orchid
> information and has also help so much my orchid group, with articles,
pictures
> etc., Thank s Guido. All what he did was free, with no money, just for the
> love of orchids and I am proud of that. Now the question is : the people
that
> provoqued all this, will they stay in the list? Its very easy that way, I
> can't accept that.
> Sorry Kenneth, but I can't believe this is truth. If it is, I am leaving
too.
>
> Very disappointed
>
> Olga Caussade
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[OGD] Dr Braem leaving

2004-08-11 Thread Olga Caussade
Good afternoon,
I regret that Dr Braem leaves this list. He has always help me with orchid
information and has also help so much my orchid group, with articles, pictures
etc., Thank s Guido. All what he did was free, with no money, just for the
love of orchids and I am proud of that. Now the question is : the people that
provoqued all this, will they stay in the list? Its very easy that way, I
can't accept that.
Sorry Kenneth, but I can't believe this is truth. If it is, I am leaving too.

Very disappointed

Olga Caussade
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Re: [OGD] Wanted: Mtssa Psychedelic Star

2004-08-11 Thread Sandy Gillians
Try writing to Cloud's Orchids in Toronto
(http://www.cloudsorchids.com/) -- they carry a lot of those kind of
orchids.

Good luck!

Sandy

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:52:46 -0500, Barbara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a source for Mtssa Psychedelic Star. I understand it is
> a very easy care plant and I have a thing for miltassias. You can see a
> photo of it (the one that got me all twitterpated) here:
> http://www.ottawaorchidsociety.com/photos/pics/showtable/111002/onc22.jp
> g
> 
> Anyone knowing where I can obtain this plant may email me privately:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any size or quantity will do.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> Barbara
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [OGD] Orquideas Nativas del Tachira

2004-08-11 Thread George Norris
See my previous note. We are Cesar's distributor in the U.S. and
 all copies are new and signed by the author.

George


>
> Where can I find this book?  I didn't find it with a quick web search and 
> didn't see it at AOS store.  Could it be ordered directly from 
> publisher?  (and who is publisher?).
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RE: [OGD] Orquideas Nativas del Tachira

2004-08-11 Thread George Norris
We still have about 10 new copies, signed by the author for $45 each incl.
shipping.
 Contact George at [EMAIL PROTECTED]




> "Orquideas Nativas del Tachira"
> What a wonderful book!
> A must for any orchid library or orchid nut
> The amount of information is awesome, well written and concise, easy to
> understand even for those who have no knowledge of Spanish. The pictures,
> quite good, with excellent true colors.
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[OGD] Psychopsis Mendenhall and ancestral research

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Etc...
Hi all
I'm new to the list (it seems to have been an unusual time to join).  I grow 
a hodge podge of catts, cymbidiums, oncidiums, paphs and phals.

I've recently got a young Psychopsis Mendenhall 'Hildos'.  It was said to be 
a large seedling, and it really isn't that big; the larger growth is only a 
little more than 5" tall, and it's about a third larger than the previous 
growth (there are three in total).  I repotted it after I brought it home, 
which I didn't think it enjoyed at all, but low it has started to spike.  
Does anyone know if these plants have a habit of blooming on young plants?

Also, for the person who was interested in the parentage of their Lycastes 
here is a link for you where you can type in the plant and they'll give you 
its parents.

http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/registerpages/orchidsearch.asp
Thanks
Michael
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Re: [OGD] Orquideas Nativas del Tachira

2004-08-11 Thread Errol Porter
Where can I find this book?  I didn't find it with a quick web search and 
didn't see it at AOS store.  Could it be ordered directly from 
publisher?  (and who is publisher?).

Errol
Toronto
At 10:02 AM 8/11/2004, you wrote:
dears all and sundry
"Orquideas Nativas del Tachira"
What a wonderful book!
A must for any orchid library or orchid nut
The amount of information is awesome, well written and concise, easy to
understand even for those who have no knowledge of Spanish. The pictures,
quite good, with excellent true colors.
And the book itself, a joy to read, good quality paper and binding, good
type size, easy to read and the information readily available.
As a fellow Venezuelan I4m very proud of this book the work of Ing. Agro.
Cesar Fernandez, to whom I give a big hand of applause.
julie carbonell
 caracas, venezuela
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http://www.horizonbook.com
Travel & Exploration  Natural History Horticulture & Gardening
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[OGD] OUR LOSS

2004-08-11 Thread Juli
Dears
What a shame that Guido had to leave again!
OUR LOSS
julie carbonell
caracas, venezuela
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[OGD] Orquideas Nativas del Tachira

2004-08-11 Thread Juli
dears all and sundry
"Orquideas Nativas del Tachira"
What a wonderful book!
A must for any orchid library or orchid nut
The amount of information is awesome, well written and concise, easy to
understand even for those who have no knowledge of Spanish. The pictures,
quite good, with excellent true colors.
And the book itself, a joy to read, good quality paper and binding, good
type size, easy to read and the information readily available.
As a fellow Venezuelan I4m very proud of this book the work of Ing. Agro.
Cesar Fernandez, to whom I give a big hand of applause.
julie carbonell
 caracas, venezuela
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[OGD] Re: Perlite

2004-08-11 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 8/11/04 6:06:12 AM, Ron Boyd writes:
> Oops, it was supposed to be perlite,
> 
Perlite is not expanded clay, either. Here is an excerpt from its Web site:
Basic facts about perlite is not a trade name but a generic term for 
naturally occurring siliceous rock. The distinguishing feature which sets perlite 
apart from other volcanic glasses is that when heated to a suitable point in its 
softening range, it expands from four to twenty times its original volume.
 This expansion is due to the presence of two to six percent combined water 
in the crude perlite rock. When quickly heated to above 1600 degrees F (871 
degrees C), the crude rock pops in a manner similar to popcorn as the combined 
water vaporizes and creates countless tiny bubbles which account for the amazing 
light weight and other exceptional physical properties of expanded perlite.

This expansion process also creates one of perlite's most distinguishing 
characteristics: its white color. While the crude rock may range from transparent 
light gray to glossy black, the color of expanded perlite ranges from snowy 
white to grayish white.
 Expanded perlite can be manufactured to weigh as little as 2 pounds per 
cubic foot making it adaptable for numerous applications.
 Since perlite is a form of natural glass, it is classified as chemically 
inert and has a pH of approximately 7.
 Perlite is mined and expanded all over the world. The United States is 
estimated to be the largest consumer and producer of crude and expanded perlite. 
However, there is very strong world wide production and consumption of perlite. 
Other leading countries producing perlite include China, Greece, Japan, 
Hungary, Armenia, Italy, Mexico, Philippines, and Turkey.

I have always used perlite in houseplant and orchid mixes. I don't use it for 
bonsai because it floats to the top.
Iris
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[OGD] Re: unknown

2004-08-11 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 8/11/04 6:06:12 AM, Marianne writes:
> Miltonia xanthina, nice fleshy star-shaped yellow flowers,
> 
Apparently there is no record of a Miltonia or Miltoniopsis xanthina, either 
as a species or hybrid. And neither of those genera have star shaped flowers. 
There is always a prominent lip. Suggest you contact your supplier for better 
information.
Iris
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[OGD] Dr. Braem

2004-08-11 Thread CC
It is sad when we lose a member of this list, particularly one that has
extensive knowledge (especially Paphs.) of orchids. AsCarson Whitlow
said, it was the personal, baiting attacks of a few immature people on the
list, simply to get a rise from another person to the point they had no
option left but use profanity. I imagine if the OGD was moderated, those
people doing the baiting and personal attacking would be the 1st people I'd
ban from the list, NOT Dr. Guido Braem!! And, as Carson also stated, it is
perhaps best to ignore those children, they hate that more than a reply! My
2 cents on the matter.

Cody Cruise
Valley Pest Consulting
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[OGD] Dr Braem leaving

2004-08-11 Thread ROY LEE
Kenneth, to loose the knowledge of Dr Braem from the list is indeed a great loss. 
Given the reasons and to the extent and content of the messages sent and received over 
recent times, I feel that there should be half a dozen others leaving as well. 
Particularly for the reasons that those prevoking the heated debates etc have yet to 
provide ANY credible information or discussion to the list. As you noted, Dr. Braem 
has the score on the board for knowledge and publications. Those on the other side 
have yet to prove they have any actual knowledge in any thing, let alone orchids.  I, 
for one, put it too those applauding Dr. Braems departure, though I accept the wording 
of some of the message may offend many to cause this applause, PUT UP or SHUT UP, 
start putting your knowledge to the test. I think that this may be too much to ask. 
Those that speak the loudest usually have the least to offer.
ROY



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[OGD] Wanted: Mtssa Psychedelic Star

2004-08-11 Thread Barbara
I am looking for a source for Mtssa Psychedelic Star. I understand it is
a very easy care plant and I have a thing for miltassias. You can see a
photo of it (the one that got me all twitterpated) here:
http://www.ottawaorchidsociety.com/photos/pics/showtable/111002/onc22.jp
g

Anyone knowing where I can obtain this plant may email me privately:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any size or quantity will do.

Thanks a lot!

Barbara
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[OGD] Re: Orchids, *please*/Nutrient Levels

2004-08-11 Thread Davek
Thanks for the vindication, Phil - I had a faint suspicion I was going a 
little nuts, here.

Oliver's combining the same principle with higher light levels - while 
plant appearance may not be as 'aesthetic' by conventional standards, the 
system emulates Nature which satisfies one of my eccentricities.

You see pictures of orchids in the wild with extensive root systems; 
Cattleyas for example with roots extended several meters along the trunk 
and branches of the host tree. The point here might be that with lower 
nutrient levels the root system compensates automatically, and within 
reason it might be better to err towards lower rather than higher nutrient 
concentration in cultivation.

Orchids as I'd said are slower to respond but the temporary use of 
transparent containers allows us to monitor at root level, so we might get 
a better idea of what's going on a bit sooner. Disas might be a better 
subject in that regard, but might need 100+ ppm - haven't done any surveys 
yet. I think Ron is using about 200ppm (not sure) with ordinary hydroponic 
culture.

BTW Ron gave me some Disa plants to try in semi-hydroponics - I have to say 
that this is the first time I've ever been able to grow the darned things.

> > 

> >recalled Jim James' book having similar comments.

"The New Zealand Orchid Grower"? I have a copy

> >In his book he refers to work by Poole & Seeley in the US who concluded 
> that 100ppm was optimal for Cymbidiums and 50ppm for Cattleya and that 
> Cattleya growth was actually impeded at concentrations above 100ppm.
>
> >Sounds similar to your own results.
>
> >Regards
> >Phil Norton
> >Blenheim
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[OGD] Re: Orchids, *please*/Nutrient Levels

2004-08-11 Thread Phil & Anne Norton
Dave,
You comments on nutrient levels struck a chord. I did some study into 
this matter a few years ago and recalled Jim James' book having similar 
comments. In his book he refers to work by Poole & Seeley in the US who 
concluded that 100ppm was optimal for Cymbidiums and 50ppm for Cattleya 
and that Cattleya growth was actually impeded at concentrations above 
100ppm.

Sounds similar to your own results.
Regards
Phil Norton
Blenheim
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