Re: [OGD] Fertilizer formulae
I believe P658 is the same as P668 but with agar premixed. I think P748 is O156 with agar premixed. Aaron, correct me if I'm wrong. -Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Michael O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> queried thusly, sending the whole internet to its knees: Many years back a friend of mine found a formula for sowing orchid seed somewhere (?in a book). Hopefully not a comic book. The method was a simple one based on fish emulsion, sugar, agar and some other constituents. Does anybody have a simple kitchen recipe (i.e. add one drop of "X" to a litre of water into which you have mixed 5 heaped teaspoons of sugar and 6 heaped teaspoons of agar) for media for sowing orchid seed ? There are several. I've compiled a list of all the orchid flasking formulae I can get my grubby little keyboard on, and stuck them here: http://members.cox.net/lmlauman/osp/html/mcsg_database.html If you search for the keyword "improvised" it'll go faster. If you use Mozilla Firefox in conjunction with that control-f "find" routine, it'll go faster still. I want a formula that an ordinary person without access to scales/balances can make up in their home kitchen. Most plant tissue culture formulae are adjustments on the Murashige and Skoog paper in Physiol. Plant back in 1962. The main orchid mixes are based off of half strength MS, and get more dilute from there for most species (i.e., 35% label strength M&S), which makes sense since MS is pretty darned "hot" stuff. Because of some fairly straightforward nutritional issues, fertilizers and plant tissue culture media have developed some similar characteristics, and are used interchangeably by some people. However, for a lot less hassle and guesswork, you can purchase P668 (germination) and O156 (replate) from PhytoTech for $2.50 a liter from PhytoTech Labs (www.phytotechlab.com). The complimentary formulations with agar added escape me, but they're in the catalog there somewhere. Pre-measured, just add water. They also use MES buffer to keep the pH straight- no adjustment required. However, their O156 is a little "hot," except for phals. It should be used at 60-80% of label strength, but this will dilute the gelling agent (agar), so more must be added. They list no distributor for .nz, although they do have one in .au. Cheers, -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Purchasing orchid propagating media with, or without agar?
For anyone who is new to propagating orchids in-vitro and new to making medium, Aaron's suggested two Phyto Technologies Laboratories media P668 and O156 are excellent. You do need to add Agar, and Phytotechlab's A 296 works fine. If you decide to purchase the alternate media talked about, with the agar already added, please realize that: 1) You can not remove the agar if you want a softer full strength medium. 2) You have to add agar if you use less than full strength medium 3) You may have to add agar if you add certain organics. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] C. acaule on eBay
I've been seeing this guys offers on eBay for quite some time nowbut is anyone actually buying this stuff? Its not the first time I've seen a seller post repeatedly with the same offerings because nobody wants to buyI would think, with the quantities this guy offers, that the state of Kentucky would have had all its acaule's decimated by now if he was really selling everything he is listing. Take care, Eric Muehlbauer in Queens,NYwhere the cyps are just getting started. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Fertilizer formulae
Michael, I agree with Aaron, You can't beat Phyto's one liter prepacked solutions for ease and simplicity as well as cost/effort. Paul LeBlanc>-Original Message->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 02:42 PM>To: Orchids@orchidguide.com>Subject: [OGD] Fertilizer formulae>> >"Michael O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> queried thusly, sending the whole internet to its knees: > >> Many years back a friend of mine found a formula for >> sowing orchid seed somewhere (?in a book). > >Hopefully not a comic book. > >> The method was a simple one based on fish emulsion, sugar, >> agar and some other constituents. Does anybody have a >> simple kitchen recipe (i.e. add one drop of "X" to a litre >> of water into which you have mixed 5 heaped teaspoons of >> sugar and 6 heaped teaspoons of agar) for media for sowing >> orchid seed ? > >There are several. I've compiled a list of all the orchid flasking formulae I can get my grubby little keyboard on, and stuck them here: > >http://members.cox.net/lmlauman/osp/html/mcsg_database.html > >If you search for the keyword "improvised" it'll go faster. If you use Mozilla Firefox in conjunction with that control-f "find" routine, it'll go faster still. > >> I want a formula that an ordinary person without access to >> scales/balances can make up in their home kitchen. > >Most plant tissue culture formulae are adjustments on the Murashige and Skoog paper in Physiol. Plant back in 1962. The main orchid mixes are based off of half strength MS, and get more dilute from there for most species (i.e., 35% label strength M&S), which makes sense since MS is pretty darned "hot" stuff. > >Because of some fairly straightforward nutritional issues, fertilizers and plant tissue culture media have developed some similar characteristics, and are used interchangeably by some people. > >However, for a lot less hassle and guesswork, you can purchase P668 (germination) and O156 (replate) from PhytoTech for $2.50 a liter from PhytoTech Labs (www.phytotechlab.com). The complimentary formulations with agar added escape me, but they're in the catalog there somewhere. Pre-measured, just add water. They also use MES buffer to keep the pH straight- no adjustment required. However, their O156 is a little "hot," except for phals. It should be used at 60-80% of label strength, but this will dilute the gelling agent (agar), so more must be added. > >They list no distributor for .nz, although they do have one in .au. > >Cheers, > >-AJHicks >Chandler, AZ > > > >___ >the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) >orchids@orchidguide.com >http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com > ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fertilizer formulae
"Michael O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> queried thusly, sending the whole internet to its knees: > Many years back a friend of mine found a formula for > sowing orchid seed somewhere (?in a book). Hopefully not a comic book. > The method was a simple one based on fish emulsion, sugar, > agar and some other constituents. Does anybody have a > simple kitchen recipe (i.e. add one drop of "X" to a litre > of water into which you have mixed 5 heaped teaspoons of > sugar and 6 heaped teaspoons of agar) for media for sowing > orchid seed ? There are several. I've compiled a list of all the orchid flasking formulae I can get my grubby little keyboard on, and stuck them here: http://members.cox.net/lmlauman/osp/html/mcsg_database.html If you search for the keyword "improvised" it'll go faster. If you use Mozilla Firefox in conjunction with that control-f "find" routine, it'll go faster still. > I want a formula that an ordinary person without access to > scales/balances can make up in their home kitchen. Most plant tissue culture formulae are adjustments on the Murashige and Skoog paper in Physiol. Plant back in 1962. The main orchid mixes are based off of half strength MS, and get more dilute from there for most species (i.e., 35% label strength M&S), which makes sense since MS is pretty darned "hot" stuff. Because of some fairly straightforward nutritional issues, fertilizers and plant tissue culture media have developed some similar characteristics, and are used interchangeably by some people. However, for a lot less hassle and guesswork, you can purchase P668 (germination) and O156 (replate) from PhytoTech for $2.50 a liter from PhytoTech Labs (www.phytotechlab.com). The complimentary formulations with agar added escape me, but they're in the catalog there somewhere. Pre-measured, just add water. They also use MES buffer to keep the pH straight- no adjustment required. However, their O156 is a little "hot," except for phals. It should be used at 60-80% of label strength, but this will dilute the gelling agent (agar), so more must be added. They list no distributor for .nz, although they do have one in .au. Cheers, -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Greenhouse fans
Joe, Trying using some penetrating oil to free up the bearings and then apply some light machine oil to the bearings. There should be open ports you can apply the penetrating oil and the machine oil through. Many of them are difficult to reach. I have an oil can with a 2 foot thin plastic extension on it to reach the oil holes on my fans. Check the manufactures maintenance requirements for the fans. If they have sealed bearings there is little you can do. I would imagine that expensive fans like this have bearings you need to oil. With proper maintenance should last for 10 or 20 years. I find that some of the better fans I can buy at Lowes, Menards, or similar places have bearings I can oil. They last me longer than some of the fans I have purchased from greenhouse suppliers. I try to oil all my fans every fall and spring equinox, the same time I set my clocks forward and back for day light savings time. My current fans vary from 4 to 15 years old. Tom Hillson At 9:32 PM -0400 4/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We recently noticed that 3 or 4 fans in our greenhouse have locked up. Presumabley, the bearings are frozen. These are expensive fans (Patton high velocity) costing over $200 each. They were purchased about 5 years ago. What is the life expectancy of such fans? Joe Linger 460 Central Ave New Haven, CT 06515-2208 http://linger.dyndns.org ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: AQ Disaster
Marylou Porlick, please contact me. I don't have your e-mail address offhand. I started working on it. Good Lord! Iris ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
RE: [OGD] Re: Growing from seed
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hometissueculture/ >-Original Message-On Behalf Of Michael O'Connor >... >... Any references to articles on how to >do it in the home kitchen would be welcomed. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 21-Apr-05 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Growing from seed
Many years back a friend of mine found a formula for sowing orchid seed somewhere (?in a book). The method was a simple one based on fish emulsion, sugar, agar and some other constituents. Does anybody have a simple kitchen recipe (i.e. add one drop of "X" to a litre of water into which you have mixed 5 heaped teaspoons of sugar and 6 heaped teaspoons of agar) for media for sowing orchid seed ? I want a formula that an ordinary person without access to scales/balances can make up in their home kitchen. Any references to articles on how to do it in the home kitchen would be welcomed. Many thanks in advance. Keep well and kind regards Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
