Re: [OGD] Houston Tex Orchids Digest, Vol 10, Issue 278
My heart goes out to all hurricane survivors. Here are some pictures. Houston rose to the task in Katrina, got hit by Rita, and hit again. http://www.tpicks.com/pictures%20people%20have%20sent%20me.html And there was that Internet hurricane that never got into the press, the one against the surviving businesses who faced organized assaults, DOS, and every filthy tactic that hate-based crowd in Illinois could throw at us. Look at these pictures and understand one thing, those of you who do not live in Texas have no idea what it is like not only to face this kind of hurricane but then to face the second wave of attacks that came at the survivors and everyone who tried to raise money to help them and to keep the food pantries stocked for them. I will NEVER FORGET that Illinois crowd that attacked every single business that was scrambling to raise the funds necessary to start over. People were showing up in my town in the hotel rooms and first thing was to get hold of family members and hold online sales to pay for recovery. Every one who could help was on board. We had no clue of the depth of hatred we were about to face online. I saw the silence that greeted a recent orchid business needing help. You all can thank Leo Schordje and the culture of his Illinois hate-based group for that. He named my business here because he thought he had helped kill it off during the Katrina aftermath. There was an organized assault on every business who had an address registered in the Hurricane region. Record numbers of us lost tens of thousands of dollars when that Illinois-based hate group organized a campaign of malicious complaints and internet libel, attacking people who maintained their addresses in the weeks following the hurricanes while they contacted their customers and made arrangements to recover. We didn't just face off with those petty thugs masquerading as scambusters and promoting the kind of fake credentials Schordje wants to use in the orchid world. FEMA came into our churches and told us we did not have the right to open our homes and we told FEMA to get out. Then this year, during Gustav, while the Northern media sent reporters in to harass (not interview) those who chose to stay, there was that horrific little vignette in which a young man was being asked to compare Katrina with Gustav, and this is what he said, while standing in front of a very sturdy if unglamourous big gov't housing project building: My folks were able to stay in there (pointed at it) and so everyone who had a relative in the projects did ok, but this time the projects are not here because this is one of the last ones and nothing is being built to replace them as the peop0le have been evicted, hundreds of families, and this is outside of the hurricane-displaced. Instead of rebuilding, the US government has been tearing down the remaining sturdy structures, and now every time there is a hurricane, it gets worse. The media prepares the ground by attacking the people who choose to stay, and they hound the survivors from shelter to shelter. I watched one chicago-area reporter verbally abuse some Cajuns who were holding a traditional hurricane party, as if they were being stupid to wait out Gustav together. They were in the same building in which they all survived Katrina, came out dry, rested, and ready to rebuild And everyonje knows, now, that if you leave, no matter how well your property may have survived, the governement won't let you back in, and you may end up like some folks did here: they ran out of gas with children in the car while they were turned away from one full shelter after another. In Austin the media is even characterizing it as a big problem that a senior citizen tennis match had to wait for the hurricane evacuees to be removed from their athletic building. Those affluent individuals who can rely on other affluent individuals by virtue of family/friend contacts may do ok, but the wave of organized hate causes even them to hesitate to team up and hold good old-fashioned barnraising-style benefits. They need to start reading memoirs written by Jews from the 1930's, because the German Jews were affluent, middle-class, secular people, and within ten years they were herded into death camps, because the tactics of the Nazi media were so efficient. The same tactics characterizes the US media as our gov't slowly commits genocide by natural disaster. 2. Houston Tex (Bill Bergstrom) 3. Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 10, Issue 275, How are our Texans? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Pteroglossaspis pottsii - a fairly new orchid to science. (Prem Subrahmanyam) -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:19:49 -1000 From: Bill Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Houston Tex To: Orchid orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My best friend in the world is Dave Hunt in
[OGD] 1. P. vejverutianum (Paul Phillips)
Subject: [OGD] Paph.vejvarutianum To: orchids@orchidguide.com P. vejverutianum (Paul Phillips) Dear Paul, when you would see the plants especially in bud then yu would understand why the species was described. Thank for the clarification by Tennis Maynard. The plants, which were described as Paph. vejvarutianum came to USA more than 20 years ago as Paph. charlesworthii va. Kanchanaburi. The leaves are similar to Paph. gratrixianum, the bud is the same like charlesworthii and the flower in the end is similar to Paph. barbigerum. Now I have seen more plants and so today I would decide that it is a real distinct variety of Paph. barbigerum. It is not the same like Paph. rhizomatosum, but very similar in the flower and different in the growth. The correct name would also not be Paph. rhizomatosum because the same plants were described earlier as natural hybrid, Paph. x areeanum. Nowerdays it would be better to see it also as a variety. To Pauls words about the commercial interests. When these plants were described there exist no commercial interest. The describer did and do not sell plants and did not get any money for the description. On the other side these plants are not so beautiful or so rare that there will be payed a lot of money for. I have seen plants in flower in Europe and USA for 15 $. For this time best greetings Olaf Olaf Gruss In der Au 48 83224 Grassau [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Ich benutze die Vade Retro http://www.vade-retro.com/de/desktop antispam software, um meinen Posteingang gegen unerwünschte Nachrichten zu schützen. Seit seiner Installation hat Vade Retro 62 spams von 2558 erhaltenen Nachrichten blockiert. _ Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter, die bei mir bis jetzt 668 Spammails entfernt hat. Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails. Jetzt gratis testen: hier klicken http://www.spamfighter.com/lde . ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Orchid Keeper's Rant
Dear anonymous Orchid Keeper. OGD is not a local publication; please remember that it goes out to people (like me) all around the world. I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Your accusations against shadowy hate-based crowds from Illinois, tales of harassment by unidentified media from the North (Canada ?), petty thugs in ornate masks, truncated capitalized females in churches that are somehow your homes none of this has any meaning at all to someone who doesn't already know what you're talking about. Please try to be more coherent in future. And please sign your postings with your name. We do like to know who is talking to us. Cheers, Peter O'Byrne in Singapore ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Houston Tex Orchids Digest, Vol 10, Issue 278
OK, I'm clueless. What hate organization? What on Earth is this rant about? -Original Message- From: Orchid Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 23, 2008 8:33 PM To: orchids@orchidguide.com Subject: Re: [OGD] Houston Tex Orchids Digest, Vol 10, Issue 278 My heart goes out to all hurricane survivors. Here are some pictures. Houston rose to the task in Katrina, got hit by Rita, and hit again. http://www.tpicks.com/pictures%20people%20have%20sent%20me.html And there was that Internet hurricane that never got into the press, the one against the surviving businesses who faced organized assaults, DOS, and every filthy tactic that hate-based crowd in Illinois could throw at us. Look at these pictures and understand one thing, those of you who do not live in Texas have no idea what it is like not only to face this kind of hurricane but then to face the second wave of attacks that came at the survivors and everyone who tried to raise money to help them and to keep the food pantries stocked for them. I will NEVER FORGET that Illinois crowd that attacked every single business that was scrambling to raise the funds necessary to start over. People were showing up in my town in the hotel rooms and first thing was to get hold of family members and hold online sales to pay for recovery. Every one who could help was on board. We had no clue of the depth of hatred we were about to face online. I saw the silence that greeted a recent orchid business needing help. You all can thank Leo Schordje and the culture of his Illinois hate-based group for that. He named my business here because he thought he had helped kill it off during the Katrina aftermath. There was an organized assault on every business who had an address registered in the Hurricane region. Record numbers of us lost tens of thousands of dollars when that Illinois-based hate group organized a campaign of malicious complaints and internet libel, attacking people who maintained their addresses in the weeks following the hurricanes while they contacted their customers and made arrangements to recover. We didn't just face off with those petty thugs masquerading as scambusters and promoting the kind of fake credentials Schordje wants to use in the orchid world. FEMA came into our churches and told us we did not have the right to open our homes and we told FEMA to get out. Then this year, during Gustav, while the Northern media sent reporters in to harass (not interview) those who chose to stay, there was that horrific little vignette in which a young man was being asked to compare Katrina with Gustav, and this is what he said, while standing in front of a very sturdy if unglamourous big gov't housing project building: My folks were able to stay in there (pointed at it) and so everyone who had a relative in the projects did ok, but this time the projects are not here because this is one of the last ones and nothing is being built to replace them as the peop0le have been evicted, hundreds of families, and this is outside of the hurricane-displaced. Instead of rebuilding, the US government has been tearing down the remaining sturdy structures, and now every time there is a hurricane, it gets worse. The media prepares the ground by attacking the people who choose to stay, and they hound the survivors from shelter to shelter. I watched one chicago-area reporter verbally abuse some Cajuns who were holding a traditional hurricane party, as if they were being stupid to wait out Gustav together. They were in the same building in which they all survived Katrina, came out dry, rested, and ready to rebuild And everyonje knows, now, that if you leave, no matter how well your property may have survived, the governement won't let you back in, and you may end up like some folks did here: they ran out of gas with children in the car while they were turned away from one full shelter after another. In Austin the media is even characterizing it as a big problem that a senior citizen tennis match had to wait for the hurricane evacuees to be removed from their athletic building. Those affluent individuals who can rely on other affluent individuals by virtue of family/friend contacts may do ok, but the wave of organized hate causes even them to hesitate to team up and hold good old-fashioned barnraising-style benefits. They need to start reading memoirs written by Jews from the 1930's, because the German Jews were affluent, middle-class, secular people, and within ten years they were herded into death camps, because the tactics of the Nazi media were so efficient. The same tactics characterizes the US media as our gov't slowly commits genocide by natural disaster. 2. Houston Tex (Bill Bergstrom) 3. Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 10, Issue 275, How are our Texans? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Pteroglossaspis pottsii - a fairly new orchid to science. (Prem Subrahmanyam) -- Message: 2
[OGD] Mormodes Out Of Phase
Remember Sea Breeze Orchids? I have had this Mormodes aromatica from him lo these thirty years. Every year it blooms faithfully in August or September. Then when the plants come indoors in October, I put it on a windowsill until it is ready to dry off go dormant. This year it was starting an inflorescence in August, but it broke off. Then we had a lot of rain in September. Today we have frost threatening the orchids tropical plants came in. The Mormodes is in full leaf with two inflorescences starting. What should I do with it? I could put it on the windowsill, which is a little cool, or put it under lights, which is warmer. Iris ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
