In a message dated 7/14/04 5:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> The have the right to refuse admission and detain the person until a 
> plain leaves for that person's country or have the right to call in a 
> representative of that person's country from the ambassy. They surely 
> don't have the right to harrass and menatlly and physically torture that 
> person.
> 
> And what your beloved "Lacey act" is" ... that is not international but 
> US law ... No "Lacey Act" has ever been passed in any European country.


No one ever said the Lacey Act is international law.  What I said is that 
every country in the world asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction to some degree 
or another, and that the Lacey Act is facially well within accepted parameters 
in that regard.  Do you not understand what "extraterritorial jurisdiction" 
means?  (Unfortunately, my German dictionary has gone missing for the moment or 
I would try to find a translation.  As it is, I'll leave it as an exercise for 
the reader.)

As for your curious attempts at amateur legal analysis: do you actually have 
any idea at all what you're talking about, or do you, as I strongly suspect, 
just make this stuff up as you go along?  Before you comment any further on 
what international law is, you ought to look into it - not just make 
pronouncements on what you happen to imagine it is or want it to be.  I won't tell you 
to 
study and train in it - as you suggest anyone who wants to comment about 
taxonomy should - but you should at least do a little research because you're 
clearly way out of your depth.  Since you're an academic, surely you must be able 
to find someone at your university who knows something about the subject.  If 
you don't mind being laughed at to your face, check with them about your 
thoughts on "international law" and then get back to me.

At this point, there really isn't any point in trying to continue what is 
passing for a discussion of the issue since you aren't discussing anything, 
you're just stamping your foot and insisting you're right without any attempt at 
justification.  I have neither the time to waste nor the inclination to waste it 
on a one-sided discussion.  If you ever manage to cite any authority for your 
rather curious positions, I'll be all ears.

As for your childish attempts to personalize this by calling it "my beloved" 
Lacey Act, well, that's just pathetic.  And stupid.  I won't deign it with any 
further comments.  Period, as you say, full stop.  No wait, I will make one 
further comment.  Go piss up a rope!  Preferably against the wind, after 
drinking a liter of dark beer and half a kilo of asparagus. LOL

Michael Gerzog
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