Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum tingabarinum

2006-03-14 Thread Mike O'Connor



Thanks Jose. I looked up Seidenfaden (pages 37 to 
39) and according to him no definite type specimen is available. That being 
the case then how can Kew accept a description without a type specimen? Perhaps 
since Seidenfaden's work was published a type specimen has turned 
up.
Once again many thanks for the much appreciated 
reply.
Keep well and kind regards
Mike

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  The Rolfe entity does not have priority.  As a matter of fact, if one 
  accepts Kew as the arbiter for species nomenclature ( as the AOS does), 
  Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum cannot be transfered to Bulbophyllum ( the Kew 
  accepted generic concept ) since there is a 1904 publication for a 
  Bulbophyllum miniatum ( a supposedly Tropical African species) 
  [Bulbophyllum miniatum auct., Orchid Rev. 12: 118 (1904).]
  Kew makes the whole nomenclature issue more fun  by reducing 
  Bulbophyllum tingabarinum and Bulbophyllum flaviflorum to synonyms to 
  Bulbophyllum pecten-veneris (Gagnep.) Seidenf., Dansk Bot. Ark. 29: 
  37 (1973 publ. 1974).  based on the replaced basionym Cirrhopetalum 
  pecten-veneris Gagnep., Bull. Soc. Bot. France 78: 6 (1931).  
  which is the name with priority once the Rolfe's 1914 name is reduced to 
  non-usability.
   
  Jose
  
  

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[OGD] Bulbophyllum tingabarinum

2006-03-14 Thread tiosuper



The Rolfe entity does not have priority.  As a 
matter of fact, if one accepts Kew as the arbiter for species nomenclature ( as 
the AOS does), Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum cannot be transfered to 
Bulbophyllum ( the Kew accepted generic concept ) since there is a 1904 
publication for a Bulbophyllum miniatum ( a supposedly Tropical African species) 
[Bulbophyllum miniatum auct., Orchid Rev. 12: 118 (1904).]
Kew makes the whole nomenclature issue more fun  by reducing 
Bulbophyllum tingabarinum and Bulbophyllum flaviflorum to synonyms to 
Bulbophyllum pecten-veneris (Gagnep.) Seidenf., Dansk Bot. Ark. 29: 37 
(1973 publ. 1974).  based on the replaced basionym Cirrhopetalum 
pecten-veneris Gagnep., Bull. Soc. Bot. France 78: 6 (1931).  which 
is the name with priority once the Rolfe's 1914 name is reduced to 
non-usability.
 
Jose



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Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum tingabarinum

2006-03-11 Thread Mike O'Connor
Many thanks to all those who replied to my taxonomic query regarding
Epidendrum cristatum vs Epidendrum raniferum.
I now have another taxonomic query on which I would value guidance.
I bought a plant labelled as Bulbophyllum tingabarinum (which has just
finished flowering now in our autumn) and as is my habit I always try and
verify that the label is correct.
In Seidenfaden's "Notes of Cirrhopetalum" he transfers Cirrhopetalum
flavflorum Liu & Su to Bulbophyllum flaviflorum and gives as a synonym
Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum.
In Siegerist's "Bulbophyllums and their allies" she lists Bulbophyllum
tingabarinum (described by Garay, Hamer and Siegerist in 1994)  and gives as
a synonym Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum but states that Bulbophyllum
flaviflorum (Liu & Su) Seidenfaden is NOT a synonym.
My queries are these :
1) If Rolfe's name was published in 1913 why does it not have preference?
2) If Liu & Su's description was valid and Rolf'e's not, I can understand
Seidenfaden transferring it to Bulbophyllum from Cirrhopetalum but why, if
Rolfe's description is a synonym for some technical reason for the
Seidenfaden plant, is Bulbophyllum tingabarinum then also not a synonym of
Bulbophyllum flaviflorum. It is true that the colours are different but my
plant looks identical to Seidenfaden's line drawings.
3). Is Garay et al's description valid?
Many thanks in advance.
Oh! by the way the plant is a delghtful little plant and as Shakespeare said
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".
Keep well and kind regards
Mike
South Africa



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