Re: [OGD] WOC Proceedings

[stanhopi]

I had put in an inquiry to the WOC offices on behalf of a number of the members 
of my local orchid society here in Florida.  We wanted to know whether we could 
make a group order for the Proceedings and what quantity would afford us a 
price break.  The lady I spoke to advised me that she would present my request 
the the next WOC Trustees meeting and get back to me with their decision.



I then left on a vacation out of the country and was gone three month.




When I returned, I phoned (this past week) and left a message and the same 
person then phoned back the next day to advise me that the decision by the 
trustees was that no group discounts would be offered and that each book would 
be priced, boxed, and sent individually, no matter how many were ordered, even 
to the same customer/address.




She also advised me -and this, more to the point of the original OGDer's query- 
that they were currently wrapping up collecting and organizing the papers that 
would be included in the Proceedings and expected that first copies to begin 
being sent out around the first week of September.




If you have further questions about the Proceedings, here is the phone number 
that I called:   786-621-9962.




Hope this is useful for you...




Cheers!




Paul Mitchell

Tampa, FL / Alajuela, Costa Rica

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[OGD] WOC Proceedings

[Wilella Stimmell]

On February 7, I purchased a copy of the 19th WOC Proceedings. On my
receipt, the address listed to contact regarding an inquiry was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . I sent a message to that address, and it was returned to me
as being "undeliverable". It was my understanding that the proceedings would
be available in June. Has anyone else received the Proceedings? If not, does
anyone know when the publication is scheduled to be shipped?  Thanks!

Wilella Stimmell




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[OGD] Woc proceedings

[Paul Phillips]

I have been asked to obtain copies of previous WOC Judging Rules and
guidance for the Committee organising the 2014 WOC in South Africa.
If anyone has copies they can offer, please let me know
I will contact you directly
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[OGD] WOC Catt changes

[Steve Marak]

Cassio van den Berg, who I believe was part of the team that shook up the 
Laelias, was scheduled to speak on Cattleya and Sophronitis 
classification, but there was so much to do and so little time I didn't 
attend (and, if I dare admit it, I'm just not that into cattleyas).

I did attend a talk on that subject by Thomas Mirenda of the Smithsonian 
at another show within the last couple of months. He talked with van den 
Berg & team while putting together the talk to keep his information 
current. At that time, although there was at least one alternative scheme 
proposed by another group (involving, if my memory and quick search are 
correct, Dungsia, Hydrolaelia, Microlaelia, and Hoffmannsegella), most 
people still favored van den Berg & Chase's moving the Brazilian Laelias 
to Sophronitis (if they really had to go somewhere else), as that both 
made sense taxonomically and resulted in less(!) confusion than the 
alternatives.

Most breeders, I think, are still crying over the idea of "Sophronitis 
purpurata" (or "Hydrolaelia purpurata" in the other scheme) ...

Sorry I don't recall more of the details. 

Steve


> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:33:43 +
> From: K Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [OGD] WOC Catt changes
> 
> Supposedly the Brazilians were going to present comments on the recent 
> RHS changes in the Cattleya alliance at the Miami WOC.  Maybe present 
> their own analysis or tree based on genetics or cladistic analysis.  
> (?) Anyone have any further information? AFAIK there had been some 
> discussion of renaming the genus for the Brazilian laelias to one that 
> honored Brazil, but it was hinted that a more in depth assessment or 
> taxonomic realignment was coming.

-- Steve Marak
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[OGD] WOC Catt changes

[K Barrett]

Supposedly the Brazilians were going to present comments on the recent RHS 
changes in the Cattleya alliance at the Miami WOC.  Maybe present their own 
analysis or tree based on genetics or cladistic analysis.  (?) Anyone have any 
further information? AFAIK there had been some discussion of renaming the genus 
for the Brazilian laelias to one that honored Brazil, but it was hinted that a 
more in depth assessment or taxonomic realignment was coming.
 
K Barrett
N Calif, USA
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[OGD] WOC and Flamingos

[Jay Pfahl]

Dear K Barret and OGD's
 I was at the WOC all week and asked R Fuchs and the birds' owner about the 
flamingos which were very much alive. I saw them brought in each morning at 9am 
by their owner. They said that the flamingoes were raised as chicks living on 
grass and that they would not step off of it. If you saw the display up close 
you would see that there was grass only in the small area at the back. They 
have their wings clipped from birth so have never learned to fly. It made a 
very impressive display and it was outside so if they were not sure that they 
would not move out of the display they could have made a break for freedom. The 
only problem is they would have been loose in downtown Miami, not too 
hospitable place for man or flamingos.
 Krull Smith's Paph's were incredible, there was a P lowii that had a spread of 
7' from the tip of one inflorescence to the other and their display was 
absolutely the best. It should have taken 1st place, but RF dispaly did that. 
There was a tree made out of Phalaenopsis, another of Dendrobium and another of 
Oncidium that were at least 12 to 15' tall. 
 All in all it was an incredible show. If you got there early in the week you 
got to see P kovachii in bloom in the Peruviflora display, and through the rest 
of the week a variety of hybrids with it were visible. Andy Phillips had a 
great wardian case chock full of fabulous miniatures. Hoosier Orchids had a 
wardian case full of Terrestrials and George Hauserman of EFG orchids actually 
had a 20' tall volcano that went off every 45 minutes and would belch smoke and 
rumble away as lava spilled down it's sides. I can still hear the repetitive 
tune that played growing in intensity until the volcano would explode only to 
repeat itself for the next explosion.
 The best part was meeting the orchid world, Phillip Cribb, Cal Dodson, Robert 
Dressler, Tom Sheehan, Eric Hagsater, Franco Pupulin, Carlos Figetti, Isaais 
Rolando, Wesley Higgins, Carlos Uribe, Juan Felipe Posadas, Stig Dalstrom, 
Joyce Stewart, Johan Hermans, Milton Carpenter, Patricia Harding, Weyman 
Bussey, Rueben Sauleda were just a few of the orchid luminaries that were 
present. The talks were interesting and everyone was very approachable. 
 My only complaint was that the hall was very cold and because of it I came 
down with a bigtime cold. I am still trying to fight it off. I am definitely 
making plans for Singapore in 2011 and South Africa in 2014!
Happy Orchid Growing
Jay Pfahl
www.orchidspecies.com 
7701 species in 697 species

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[OGD] WOC

[BevTall]

I just returned from the World Orchid Conference and it is the best 
one yet.  The displays were wonderful and the quality of the plants 
unsurpassed.  Krull Smith received 47 medals for their plants 
alone.  Their paphs were unbelievable! They had to do a lot of 
climate control to get the multi-florals to bloom this time of 
year.  There were many wonderful exhibits and it looked like the 
whole event was well attended.  The speaker line up had a wide 
variety that would satisfy just about everyone.  Florida did a great 
job! Singapore is the next one in 3 years.   They have a high 
standard to meet after this one.  Congratulations Florida!!!
Bev



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[OGD] WOC / funds vetoed / Florida (US)

[viateur . boutot]

"Florida...

The governor has vetoed or, in a few cases, recommended for further 
study... in budget projects...

The state's total budget for the year is $71.5 billion.

... Gov. Charlie Crist...
Crist said. "... I carefully considered each item proposed by the 
Legislature, I focused on the fact that we are spending the hard-earned 
money of the people of Florida, and we have a responsibility to spend it 
wisely."
...
the state's 2007-08 budget...

Red penned
...
  $50,000 under special categories of economic development projects that 
would have gone to the 19th World Orchid Conference... The veto note states 
the funds were not requested by the Office of Tourism, Trade and Economic 
Development or recommended by the governor."

article URL : 
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2007/05/21/daily34.html?from_rss=1

*
Regards,

VB 


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[OGD] WOC 19

[Barbara]

Yeah, I know the date has changed. That has got to screw up 
someone's calendar. THAT's inevitable. But, jeepers! Quit whining. The 
discussion about who gets to judge, when it's going to be, what it will 
compete with... gets old. Get a grip! And get an orchid!

I'd much rather have someone tell me the truth, the whole truth, and 
nothing but the truth about the rumors surrounding the Phrag kovachii 
flasks that are soon to be "out there".

Barbara

P.S. Has anyone remembered to change the dates on the Official 19WOC Poster?

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[OGD] WOC Miami

[Colin.Hamilton]

Title: WOC Miami






From: "Jose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: [OGD] The Miami WOC: I heard it through the grapevine


 That the Miami WOC Organizing Committee (Read: Robert Fuchs) is proposing a change for the WOC from the originally proposed date  to of all months JANUARY.  Is this true? What criteria did he used to change the date? Are there enough flowers in the Northern Hemisphere , specially the US to have a successful show of that magnitude in January?

What is the AOS position on this?


What is happening? Is everyone going nuts?

***

Hi Jose,

This seems very strange to me too but the WOC Trust website now shows the following message

19th World Orchid Conference

Miami, Florida, USA
18-27 January 2008


Colin Hamilton

Webmaster

Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"

Rockhampton, Qld. Australia

www.orchidsaustralia.com

Christians have only one spouse. This is called monotony.



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[OGD] WOC Judging

[Gerald H Fisher]

Not wishing to further stir up a couple of people I would ask that someone 
other than Andy or Bert (listed in Alphabetical sequence) respond. If either 
of them wish to respond directly to me - fine, I will grant any response the 
respect that it deserves..

At the WOC sponsored/sanctioned shows/events.  Who sets the criteria for 
selection of judges and for the judging of plants? Does the sponsoring 
local/national society? Can/Does the local/national society ALSO make awards 
under their judging criteria - along with their 'selected' judges?

By what authority can Andy say, "However, I do know I can confirm your 
second statement. You will, most definitely not be judging at Miami in 2008. 
Judging will be restricted to credentialed judges."  Whose credentials?  In 
the recent history of the WOCs has any person without 'approved' credentials 
acted in the capacity of judge?

In recent history I can remember an election where credentialed judges 
seemed to wing it as they went along and I would not like to see this happen 
again. US/us really don't need to once again have something happen with 
international repercussions. (LOL)

Jerry in IN 


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[OGD] WOC and Orchid Stamps

[Peter\(Can\) Croezen]

 
 
For the 16th WOC in Vancouver, Canada issued a 
booklet with several
orchid species postage stamps.
 
These were sold at the WOC, so people did not have 
to get out of he building 
and find a post office.
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[OGD] WOC, CFIA and Canadian plants returning from Dijon

[Howard Ginsberg]

This will in all probability be of interest to Canadians only and those
people who wish to read about petty bureaucracy in action.

 

First of all, I echo the words of Peter Furniss and the opinion of
virtually everyone that I spoke to when I say that this was one of the most
beautiful shows I have ever attended and one of the best organized mega-shows.
Did things go wrong? Of course but, as a rule, they were corrected – and quite
quickly.

 

The French offered both Phytosanitary and CITES Certificates free of
charge from an office on site. The people in that office were very nice and well
intentioned. However, it is probable that these people have never either
imported or exported a plant in their lives. These people were not from the
Ministry of Agriculture. The people from the Ministry of Agriculture were all
in Beaune on a computer network hooked up to the Museum
of Natural History in Paris. In this way, they checked on species
names, etc.

 

In any case, people in certain countries require import permits to
bring back plants. Those countries include Canada,
Israel and Australia. The
Canadian Import permit states that one of these 2 statements MUST be on the
Phytosanitary Certificates:

 

“Material was grown in soil where potato wart disease
(SYNCHYTRIUM
ENDOBIOTICUM) has not been recorded and where, based on official soil
surveys or other precautionary practices, the potato cyst nematode
(GLOBODERA ROSTOCHIENSIS and GLOBODERA PALLIDA) and the soybean cyst
nematode (HETERODERA GLYCINES) are not known to occur."

OR 

"Potato wart disease (SYNCHYTRIUM ENDOBIOTICUM), potato cyst nematode
(GLOBODERA ROSTOCHIENSIS and GLOBODERA PALLIDA) and soybean cyst nematode
(HETERODERA GLYCINES) are not known to occur in the country of origin of the
plant material."

 

In Dijon,
they did not ask for import permits and, when import permits were presented, they
were apparently never forwarded to the Ministry of Agriculture. Accordingly,
the Ministry of Agriculture did not know that they had to add these statements.
Therefore, these statements did not appear on most, if not all, the Phytosanitary
Certificates issued in France.

 

In addition, the CFIA (Canadian Food Inspection Agency, responsible for
orchids) insists upon Phytosanitary Certificates for flasks. The French Ministry
of Agriculture understands that plants grown in agar are sterile. The Canadians
do not. The Canadians insist on a Phytosanitary Certificate. 

 

Those people arriving from France
in any city in Canada other
than Toronto
experienced no problem of any kind whatsoever. Those people arriving in Toronto faced Wes Kurek
and Judy Smith. (In 2002, I arrived from Australia with a flask and a
Phytosanitary Certificate. Mr. Kurek not only detained the flask but, as he
said, he opened the flask “because I can”. A complaint brought no
disciplinary action of any kind. CFIA apparently encourages petty, vindictive
and arrogant behaviour in addition to apparent incompetence.) 

 

The people who arrived in Toronto
had to deal with Judy Smith. In the dictionary, next to bureaucrat, there must
be a picture of her. Petty, capricious, arbitrary are some of the printable
adjectives that I have heard to describe her. A friend had his plants detained.
Because I am bilingual, I tracked down the French Ministry of Agriculture in
Beaune. I spoke to the people who had signed the Phytosanitary Certificates. They
agreed to re-issue the certificates and did. 

 

They added the first of the 2 statements (“Material was grown in
soil where potato wart disease (SYNCHYTRIUM
ENDOBIOTICUM) has not been recorded and where, based on official soil surveys
or other precautionary practices, the potato cyst nematode (GLOBODERA
ROSTOCHIENSIS and GLOBODERA PALLIDA) and the soybean cyst
nematode (HETERODERA GLYCINES) are not known to occur.”)

 

This was judged unacceptable by Judy Smith because, according to her, the
French could not know what type of soil the plants had been grown in. When I
attempted to explain to Mark McCombs, general counsel for CFIA, that the plants
had not been grown in soil, he began screaming, “Then why did they say
that the plants were grown in soil?” I tried to explain that the French
had simply written what the Canadians wanted to see verbatim and that, since the plants were NOT grown in SOIL,
stating that the soil did not have the harmful pests was in fact correct. Aubie
Schwartz, senior counsel, proved to be a legend in his own mind. Moira
Nicholson appears to be the only member of the senior legal staff that returns
calls and that can think intelligently.

 

The French then amended the Phytosanitary Certificate using the second
of the two statements, 

 

"Potato wart disease (SYNCHYTRIUM ENDOBIOTICUM), potato cyst
nematode
(GLOBODERA ROSTOCHIENSIS and GLOBODERA PALLIDA) and soybean cyst nematode
(HETERODERA GLYCINES) are not known to occur in the country of origin of the
plant material."

 

Judy Smith said that this was no good because the 

[OGD] WOC photo captions -- correction

[Sandy Gillians]

It's just been brought to my attention that some of the photos on my
site were not labelled properly. The gorgeous display that I took so
many pictures of was put together by the Bournemouth Orchid Society.

Specifically,

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/woc2005/dsc_1713.html

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/woc2005/dsc_1712.html

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/woc2005/dsc_1710.html

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/woc2005/dsc_1708.html

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/woc2005/dsc_1707.html

Sorry about that!

Sandy
-- 
www.pollenatrix.com
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[OGD] WOC in Dijon and elsewhere

[baruk]

Title: WOC in Dijon and elsewhere







All,


the point is  ….Critizing the WOC held in Dijon is ok with me but critizing the country or/and the people living there is stupid. We have a set of "rules" called CITES and that's the problem. Custom officers worldwide don't have the same level of education/skills and for this reason you can get severely fee'd in Madagascar if you have phalaeopsis hybrids in your luggage or try to introduce flasked orchids into the USA. 

AS if custom officers wasn't enough there is also the inspectors (or plant police). I met one of these guys at the WOC, he's was unable to distinguish between jungle collected and artificial raised plants, and believe me there were quite a lot of "maked up" paphs at the sales boots there. 

Now hopefully the Miami WOC (Right Andy?) will be a much better event than Dijon WOC, but as Colin Hamilton said: 


"Seems nothing has changed with WOC's. Full of promises but fail to deliver"


Now if that's a challenge!!!



Uri Baruk France

  

  



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[OGD] WOC Website Competition

[Colin.Hamilton]

Viateur posted the following (OGD Vol. 7 No. 170)

>Best Amateur website M. ARAUJO Sergio http://www.delfinadearaujo.com
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>
>
>
>***
>and
>
>Orchids web sites
>http://www.riks.be M. NEIRYNCK Rik
>
>congratulations !

Allow me to give some additional details regarding the website competition 
since I have been asked "What gives?
When nominations were called in November 2004 the document listed 4 Sections:
*   Amateur on a purely private basis 
*   Amateur for an institution or a company 
*   Professional for an institution or a company 
*   Professional for a trade undertaking
I was not in Dijon, so I don't know what happened, but it seems that there were 
three Sections judged - Commercial, Private and Society.  The following were 
the Medal Awards:

GOLD
M. ARAUJO Sergio, Best Amateur website http://www.delfinadearaujo.com VI-1 
M. BARFIELD Glen, Best Professional website http://www.theorchidworks.com VI-2 
M. JENNINGS Colin, Institution or non profit org. web site 
http://www.orchidsaustralia.com VI-3 
(Colin Jennings was the Australian Orchid Council's representative at the 
Conference)

SILVER

M. NEIRYNCK Rik   http://www.riks.be
M. KOELTZ Sven   http://www.koeltz.com
Mme BENAY Nancy   http://www.nhos.org
BRONZE
M. FUCHS Robert   http://www.rforchids.com
M. SMITH Graham   http://www.british-orchid-council.info
I presume the Bronze Medals were awarded for Commercial and Society sections 
only.
Our congratulations to all the other medal winners.

Colin Hamilton
Webmaster
Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"
Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
www.orchidsaustralia.com
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

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[OGD] WOC Dijon treatment of vendors

[Peter\(Can\) Croezen]

Stuart who asked :
 
>Any word on were the plants confiscated have ended 
up?
>Were the plants sent to botanical or other 
institutions?? 
>(perhaps local growers commercial or 
otherwise??)
 
David Hunt's original post gives us one 
clue.:
 
>Philippines stall had all their plants confiscated and force to donate 
all their orchids 
>to the botanical garden, due to the French authority believe their 
CITES documents 
>were fake, but they allow them to sell appendix I -fern.
 
Right, confiscate  App II, but allow App 
I sales.
 
Someone, French citizen preferably, explain 
the French Cites Authority logic of this  
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[OGD] WOC Dijon, treatment of vendors (part 1)

[Peter\(Can\) Croezen]

 
 
 
I understand how embarrassed Uri 
Baruk probably is about all that happened 
at the WOC held in his country, 
France.
 
Whether he agrees or disagrees with the vendor's 
claims neither matters, 
nor does it make them go away. 
 
I do know a few vendors who were at 
Dijon. One of them happens to be a 
friend, 
who just told me this morning  that he 
knows the source of  David Hunt's 
OGD post 
and that ALL ELEVEN VENDOR COMPLAINTS in it 
are true.
 
I believe my WOC Dijon vendor 
friend. 
 
Uri's  disagreement with some of the 11 claims 
is meaningless. Let him tell us which ones
are not true. 
 
Actually what happened to my friend and other 
vendors at the WOC in Dijon 
is worse than David's post tells 
us.
 
Here are just a few statements from my vendor 
friend:
 
>Yes, all is true and unfortunatelly I was the 
"xxx country" vendor!!! 
 
>I had sold a good amount in pre-orders so I 
could deliver them at the WOC. 
>These customers came and went in the first five days, and I did not have my 
>plants to deliver to them, for my plants were held up for 5 days. I also lost the 
>money I paid for transport of 
these "lost" sales.
 
>I lost 5 days selling at the show, for the 1st 
selling  day starts during the work 
>on the displays and everything. These would have been the best days, because 

>all the hobbyists  were there during the 5 days of the CONGRESS. We received 

>our plants just after the congress
.>As for the one who wrote the vendor 
complaints to David Hunt, (and I know who 
>it is,) we had contracted the  same 
Freight Broker (indicated by the WOC organization, 
>a company called ZIEGLER FRANCE), we sent  
by freight 5.000 plants and when we 
>left our country we  received 
by e.mail our Import Permit, but the original one?? 
>Who knows where it is 
 
>We brought with us another 60 plants for a 
friend who had the import permit already 
>done and when we arrived in Dijon we asked 
for customs to check the plants, we 
>paid the taxes and started selling the few 
plants we had. After 3 days the customs 
>came and told  us that we could not  
continue selling,  because they did not have the 
>origial import permit.   (They did 
not have the one we gave them the  1st day). 
>After the weekend, they finally found the 
Import Permit and we started selling again.
continued in next 
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[OGD] WOC-Dijon

[David Hunt]

I received this from a good friend who went as a 
vendor to the WOC. Seems like the French are behaving as usual. Also had reports 
on the scams the French pulled on visitors such as $100.00 for a short cabride, 
etc.
 

We got back from WOC-Dijon last week, still abit 
jet lagged, but almost  recovering now. 
Not sure if you knew anything about WOC in Dijon, 
but we can say it's a mess. The French Authority seems not welcoming any foreign 
participants.almost all foreign participants got into trouble, either with 
custom or the CITES. 
To start with: 
1) Philippines stall had all their plants 
confiscated and force to donate all their orchids to the botanical garden, due 
to the French authority believe their CITES documents were fake, but they allow 
them to sell appendix I -fern.
2) Brazil orchids- had their plants in custom for a 
week, due to custom formality and the authorize freight forwarder missing in 
action. They didn't release their plants last 4 days of the show.
3) Peru-had their plants in custom for as long as 
the Brazil orchid. But had all their very expensive species flask broken at the 
base. All flasks broke the same manner and 50% of the seedlings missing during 
custom.
4) Only few boxes of Madagascar orchid were 
release, as they believe that others were collected from the wild and CITES 
provided were fake.
5) Few Taiwan stall had compound and had some of 
their plants confiscated, due to not listed in their list of CITES.
6) 2 foreign participants-refuse entry at Paris 
.didn't even have the chance to come close to Dijon.
7) Few arrested by the CITES police and charge to 
court for  illegally smuggling orchids to France from 
Germany.
8)Thailand stall was smart, before coming to France 
they enter from Germany sold whole shipment to a German nursery and then 
re-buy for WOC-Dijon. So as long as entry point in EU, their  plants become 
legal. But the France authority still not happy with it and issue a compound. 

9) 4 stalls simply pack and go when the authority 
starts visiting their stall. We see them in the morning, by afternoon they were 
gone.
10) Japan orchid had to pay a compound for some 
formality reasons.
10) For us, they believe we have smuggle the orchid 
into France and had all our plants seized for a few days.. When we arrived 
at Paris, we can't find the freight forwarder, they had the original import 
permit from France and suppose to do all formality for us, later we found out 
that they were on strike. So we presented all our documents, CITES, Phyto, 
Export Cert as well as copy of French import permit to the custom 
at Charles de Gaulle. The custom officer looked through all the 
document, without endorsement nor even bother to check our cargo  they told 
us to go. We arrived at Dijon, do our display and started selling for 21/2 days. 
Then the CITES police came and after one full day of statement, they decided to 
seize all our plants.fortunately we have a witness at the airport, which is 
the porter that had help us with translation as well as pushing the cargo 
out of the airport..after confiscating our plants for 3 days, they finally 
decided to release our plants, but we have to pay tax. Not much damage to us as 
we had sold most of our pre-ordered plants during first 2 days, but we feel 
sorry for all those foreign  participants  that had problem with the 
French authority.
So far for now, catch up with you some other 
time.
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[OGD] WOC Award list

[Rik Neirynck]

Dear All,
The 18° WOC Award lsit is online and in *.pdf format on
 

Best wishes,
Rik.

Rik Neirynck
Bottelare
Belgium-Europe

www.riks.be 

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[OGD] WOC - Dijon

[viateur . boutot]

Thanks Michael [O'Connor]
for your comment on how the site for the 2011 WOC was chosen.
Hopefully, we will eventually learn from someone who actually participated 
in the decision what actually went on at the meeting of the Site Selection 
Committee in Dijon.

Comments are interesting and may be based on facts but there is nothing 
like a primary source to set the record straight.

As a reminder, the 10th WOC was held in Durban, South Africa, in 1981, with 
1126 participants from 32 countries. Of course, that did not disqualify 
South Africa from possibly hosting another WOC, 30 years later.

If commercial interests would have prevailed, I presume that Taiwan would 
have had a chance.

*
in the news :
In Dijon, for lack of proper CITES documentation, 1 839 orchid plants were 
confiscated during the WOC.

Additionally, 85 pots of ladyslippers (no genus mentioned in the article) 
were also seized, 3 plants of the same "genus", another unspecified species 
in a pot, and 11 bulbs.

At the WOC in Dijon some 150 000 orchid plants were displayed, about 10 000 
species and hybrids.

[my translation]
source [in French] :
http://filinfo.france3.fr/popup_afp.php?nameRegion=bfc&id=%20050321113431.wzg2n24o
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[OGD] WOC note from Peter Furniss

[hoosier orchid company]

Peter Furniss, who does not subscribe to the Digest, asked if I would post 
this note with his comments regarding the WOC.  I am pleased to be able to 
do so.

William Rhodehamel
"As an American Orchid Society appointed World Orchid Conference (WOC) 
Trustee, I looked forward to the Dijon conference, but admit to being a bit 
apprehensive about it.  Vinciane Dumont and her organizing committee didn't 
have the luxury of time that normally precedes a WOC.  Successful 
applicants usually spend a great deal of time preparing their bids, and 
then have some six years after being awarded a WOC to "get ready" for the 
massive hosting endeavor.  Vinciane volunteered to take on this monumental 
task between the 16th WOC in Vancouver and the 17th in Shah Alam so as to 
ensure that the WOC would take place in France.

All of the registrants and attendees owe her a rousing thank you because 
the results far surpassed what many people had come to expect.  The staging 
erected for Florissimo and the WOC was absolutely stunning, thus assuring 
that virtually every orchid exhibit was lovely.  The conference portion was 
a complete success, and the simultaneous translators were outstanding.  And 
it goes without saying that the food (and wine) of the Dijon area lived up 
to the reputation the French have for culinary excellence!

Nothing is perfect, though, and certain pre-WOC administrative aspects left 
a bit to be desired, particularly by those who were frustrated with 
unanswered e-mails or answers that didn't seem to make sense.  Even during 
the WOC, a few felt there were glitches in arrangements and 
scheduling.  One thing you can be sure of is that the people who have 
problems will make a lot more noise than those who don't.  I'd be willing 
to bet that there are considerably larger numbers of individuals applauding 
than those deriding the 18th WOC.

Those of us who can only speak English never seem to be able to give people 
whose native tongue is some other language a break.  If they misinterpret 
our words or answer us with words that seem logical to them but might not 
to us, we condemn them.  I have been fortunate enough to visit a number of 
countries where English is not the predominant language, and it makes me 
sad that my educational system (or my family) didn't ensure I had language 
skills drummed into my head so that I could communicate without having to 
resort to "English."  If you want to feel inferior, go to some European 
country where the businessmen speak five or six languages fluently, and 
listen to them move from one to another without ever missing a beat.

There's no doubt that the trip to France was expensive, but that's 
primarily because the dollar has nose-dived over the past several 
years.  When the planning for Dijon started, I dare say the Euro was in the 
ninety to ninety-five cent to the dollar range.  Compare that with today's 
one dollar thirty-three Euro and you can readily see what it did to 
visitors from the United States (or any other country that bases its 
currency on U.S. dollars).  That occurrence certainly was not Vinciane's 
fault and none of us should sit back and blame her.  What if the Euro ended 
up being 60 cents now?  We'd all be happy, but we wouldn't give Vinciane 
the credit, now would we?

Dijon is a beautiful city in a beautiful country and the citizens of Dijon 
where extremely cordial.  I am indebted to so many people who worked behind 
the scenes to ensure the show and conference were just as "beautiful" as 
the city and country.

The WOC is over and I already miss it.  I can't wait for another three 
years to roll around so I can head to Miami Beach for the 19th WOC.

Peter Furniss"
Hoosier Orchid Company
8440 West 82nd Street
Indianapolis, IN  46278-1062  USA
317 291-6269, 888 291-6269
Fax: 317 291-8949
www.hoosierorchid.com

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[OGD] WOC

[Colin Avery]

There is a Brazilian web site giving details of all the winners.
It is http://www.delfinadearaujo.com/.
Choose English and on the next page go to the bottom for details of WOC at Dijon. 

 

    Colin. 








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[OGD] WOC Grand Champion Orchid

[Colin.Hamilton]

Olaf Gruss wrote:

>Dear Colin,
>it is necessary to write more detailed about the winner of the Grand
>Champion with Calanthe sieboldii. >The winner was benched by 
>Franz Glanz - Wossner Orchideen, a well known
>cultivator and hybridizer from Unterwossen in the south of Bavaria in
>Germany. 
>Best greetings from the Achental, the same valley were Franz has his nursery
>
>Olaf Gruss

Thanks very much Olaf.  Obviously I am not in Dijon so I am reliant on others 
for information (even about our website win).  Your information fills in the 
gap. Perhaps my
informant couldn't find out in time.


Colin Hamilton
Webmaster
Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"
Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
www.orchidsaustralia.com
And on the 8th day God said "OK Murphy, you take it from here."

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[OGD] WOC Website Competition

[Colin.Hamilton]

Judging of the website competition held in conjunction with the World Orchid 
Conference was finalised at the weekend and the winners were announced at the 
Banquet on Monday night.  I am pleased to say that I have been advised that our 
website was the winner in the Category: Amateur Designer for 
Institution/Organization.

Other results from Dijon (as advised by Murray Shergold of Easy Orchids, 
Australia, and OGD member):
Grand Champion and Reserve Champion were both won by species orchids. 
Grand Champion was Calanthe sieboldii benched by a grower from Germany and 
Paphiopedilum hirsutissimum was reserve champion, benched by KR Orchids of 
Denmark.

Murray also comments in his Newsletter
The show is huge and dominated by pot plants, especially phalaenopsis. The 
Taiwanese have the best for sale and on show and their display must be seen to 
be believed. There are a number of strange species of interest to the species 
grower including such gems as Bulbophyllum bufo, Dendrobium himenanoglossum, 
Dendrobium glomeratum and others.


Colin Hamilton
Webmaster
Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"
Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
www.orchidsaustralia.com
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[OGD] WOC - past, present and future

[viateur . boutot]

Thanks Sandy [Gillians]
for taking the time to put online some of her photos taken at the 18 WOC in 
Dijon.
If you take photos of Colombian participants or displays, I would be 
delighted to see them.

Thank you for sharing.
*
The presentation by the Singapore representative to hold a WOC:
"quite a number of reasons. One of them is that we believe we have got 
something fresh to show you, and we have given a little bit of evidence of 
this in our display...

About three years from now I hope we shall be able to offer you something 
further, and possibly even better orchids.

Someone has raised the question of the cost of travel. Some of us are 
fortunate enough I think to come long distances, but we are in a tropical 
country, described as Nature's hothouse. We have not many members who 
cannot travel long distances, they cannot afford it, either from Malaya, 
Java, Siam, Ceylon, Burma, Borneo, Japan, Formosa : Singapore is the focal 
point of the Far East.

We can offer decent hotel accommodation at very reasonable prices. We can 
offer you trips into the jungle either in Malaya, Borneo, Java or anywhere 
else, and other Eastern amusements, various types of food, and the glamour 
of the East. Some of you have been there before, but with us it goes a 
little deeper than that.

... We are commonly known as the under-developed countries. We are trying 
to develop ourselves, with the aid of the Governments of the United States, 
Australia and Great Britain. Governments and industrialists are helping us 
to try and keep off Iron or Bamboo curtains which are trying to engulf us. 
Anything the Westerners can do financially or morally could be of great 
assistance to us in that part of the world.

... We would be grateful to have you there. We can give you things that you 
will not see, possibly, anywhere else."

[result : the 4th WOC was held in Singapore in 1963]
source : Proceedings of the Third World Orchid Conference, London, 1960, 
pp. 422.423.

*
"16 respected orchid enthusiasts, who represent orchid growers and orchid 
societies around the world ... form the Site Selection Committee for the 
20th WOC to be held in 2011.

The Committee will meet in Dijon, France, at 11.00 a.m. ...[TOMORROW] to 
review applications from Taipei (Taiwan), Cape Town (South Africa) and 
Singapore.  In addition to the information contained in a detailed 
Application Form already submitted to the Trust, the presenters will 
emphasise how they would organise the various facets of the WOC that are of 
particular interest to Registrants, including the Conference, Show, Judging 
and Social Events, if successful in their bid.  Other details of the 
criteria that will be sought by the Committee and the Trust are published 
in the Guidelines.

Each organisation will be allotted 20 minutes for their presentation and up 
to a further 20 minutes for questions and answers if required.  These 
presentations will be followed by a closed session for the Committee's 
discussion, after which a vote will be taken by secret ballot.

The Trustees will not take part in the ballot unless there is a tie.  The 
result of the Committee's choice of venue for 2011 will be announced at the 
Closing Ceremony of the 18th WOC on Monday afternoon [21 March].

Members of the Site Selection Committee 2005 will be -
Chairman : Donna Craig  (USA)  (Trustee)
Members :
Gabriel Cayrol  (New Caledonia)
Ian Chalmers  (Australia)
Phillip Cribb  (UK)
Vinciane Dumont  (France)
Munekazu Ejiri  (Japan)
Ingeborg Gonella  (Kenya)
Eric Hagsater  (Mexico)
Cordelia Head  (USA)
Johan Hermans  (UK)
Alex Hirtz  (Ecuador)
Rudolf Jenny  (Switzerland)
Harold Koopowitz  (USA)
Stephen Monkhouse  (Bali)
Sandra Altenburg Odebrecht  (Brazil)
Michael Ooi  (Malaysia)
Joy Wray  (New Zealand))
Trustees in attendance :
Peter Furniss  (USA)
Henry Oakeley  (UK)
Joyce Stewart  (UK)"
source : http://www.woctrust.com/SSC-WOC2011.html

Regards,
Viateur 

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[OGD] WOC - Malaysia

[viateur . boutot]

Andy [Easton] :
Thanks for sharing your feelings about the WOC which will begin in Dijon, 
next Friday.

You mentioned the previous WOC which was held in Malaysia, in 2002.
Where you present at that conference ?
I have read comments that the AOS boycotted that conference.
What is your opinion about that assertion ?
***
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Viateur 

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[OGD] WOC Dijon

[jerry bolce]

I am going to the WOC in Dijon France.
The tour I am on starts in Geneva and goes south to Nice and then to 
Marseilles, Avignon and Dijon.

The question I have - what are the "must see" orchid collections, 
gardens or vendors along the way?

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[OGD] WOC Proceedings

[Mark Elliott]

Anyone know what is happening with the Proceedings of the 17th WOC?Who
should I contact to change my shipping address? The one email address I
had doesn't seem to work anymore.
Thanks
Mark Elliott
Vancouver, BC
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