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Susan Taylor Orchids Editor at BellaOnline ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:03 +0200 Subject: Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 194 Send Orchids mailing list submissions to orchids@orchidguide.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Orchids digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Frustration, dislikes, amd missing comprehension (Prof. Dr. Braem) 2. Schltr.'s Dendrobium in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea (Peter O'Byrne) 3. Re: the apparent Icones-Braem controversy (John Stanley) 4. Re: Subject: Mealy Bugs Q & A, Imidicloprid ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Re: caudatum vs. wallisii vs. warscewiczianum (Stephen Manza) 6. Phrag caudatum and Phrag wallisii (Sandy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:30:32 +0200 From: "Prof. Dr. Braem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Frustration, dislikes, amd missing comprehension To: orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Icones wrote: "I am glad to hear that my discussions with Guido are useful and that people do learn things. However, it is very tiresome to have to work around his obvious dislike for the world and all the people in it" This, my dear Icones, shows how little you know of me and how biased you are about me. As for Kew, I have no dislike for the place. I have never said that the weight of the decision of Kew botanists is not as important as those of others. Again, you put words in my mouth. As for Phil Cribb, I have no dislike for the man. I only have dislike for his actions. As for Seidenfaden, he was a great man. For Kr?nzlin, well, Kr?nzlin was the student of Reichenbach fil. and we know that the latter was not such a great botanist as may be deduced from his "reputation". I is indeed frustrating and tiring to discuss this with someone who simply does not want to understand plain English. It correlates with you fear of putting your name to your messages. Back to important work. Guido J. Braem -- Prof. Dr. Guido J. Braem Naunheimer Str. 17 35633 Lahnau Deutschland/Germany Tel. +49 6441 65333 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:57:36 +0800 From: "Peter O'Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Schltr.'s Dendrobium in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea To: orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed In OGD V8 #193, "icones" said: "In fact Schlechter was so disappointed in Kraenzlin's work on Dendrobium, that he published a complete revision of the genus in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea, notwithstanding that all dendrobiums do not grow in what was then German New Guinea." Sorry, but that is (a) wrong, and (b) a misrepresentation of the way botanists publish their findings. a) What Schlechter published in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea was not even close to a "complete revision of the genus", but a proposal for dividing the subtribe Dendrobiinae (as understood at that time) into genera and sections, with keys and short notes. Some of the items in his proposal get only the briefest of mentions, for instance Macrocladium gets 9 lines, Eleutheroglossum gets 8 lines, Kinetochilus gets 4 lines, while Porpax (a whole genus) is limited to one word in the introduction, and one line in a key. A complete revision would involve a full critical examination of every species. b) Schlechter used Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea as an opportunity to publish his ideas for the taxonomic division of almost every group of orchids in S.E.Asia, so in the book you'll find a similar treament accorded to Bulbophyllum, Coelogyne, the Thelasinae and the Sarcanthinae, among others. It is perfectly normal for botanists to publish where and when they can, regardless of the name of the publication. Leslie Garay published his generic treatment on the Aeridiinae in Harvard Papers on Botany, notwithstanding that zero Aeridiinae occur naturally in Harvard. Gunnar Seidenfaden included descriptions and diagrams of orchids that are endemic to Myanmar and Malaysia in his "Orchid Genera in Thailand", and I'm very grateful that he did; it makes his work much more useful. Cheers, Peter O'Byrne ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:36:42 +0100 From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OGD] the apparent Icones-Braem controversy To: <orchids@orchidguide.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The Icones-Braem (Apparent) controversy, Ken; first, Guido Braem is quite right in, if I interpret correctly to his satisfaction (!) that expertise and authority are not the same. You mention Phil Cribb who, in the world I inhabit, is extremely well regarded. However, he is human and in the book he co-authored - The Manual of Cultivated Orchids - there are nomenclatural/taxonomic errors that I'd be embarrassed to have slipping through an editor's scrutiny. Peer review, in taxonomic matters, is notoriously problematical since there can be occasions when a peer reviewer, specialised enough in an authors taxonomic area, may not be available. In the small world of the taxonomy of some plant (or animal) groups a single person may be the only real expert. and Guido; although I think you are right in being so assertive about your 'correct' viewpoint, I think you should take into account that we mortals in taxonomy, nomenclature and faith in authors need to converse and that we may sometimes be guilty of fuzzy language. You are probably far more used to the avoidance of ambiguity or misinterpretation as anyone familiar with the pitfalls of nomenclatural accuracy have to be. Most of the time, most of us, deal in shades of meaning. Most of the conversations in this forum aren't for 'publication' in the formal sense. You are right to correct us but do remember that we aren't all involved in professional research! That's why I, for one, am learning alot from what looks like a sparring match whether intended or not. I just fear the development of argument turning to a row and that would be no use to anyone. Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <orchids@orchidguide.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 193 > Send Orchids mailing list submissions to > orchids@orchidguide.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Orchids digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. What controversy? (Prof. Dr. Braem) > 6. Re: The Guido-Icones controversies (icones) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:53:55 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OGD] Subject: Mealy Bugs Q & A, Imidicloprid To: orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Ed, for your comments on the Bayer Advanced Rose & Flower Insect Killer, differentiating between it and. other Bayer insecticides on the market. I was just about to post saying that we had been using the Rose & Flower Insect spray (which says "also for houseplants" on the label front) for a month or so now, with little indications of adverse human reaction. We may be good "mine canaries", as I do have rapid reactions to a number of chemicals, including many commonly used in the home and in public places, and my husband has a kidney condition, which means we pick our chemicals carefully. So far, neither of us has had any problem from the B.A.R.&F.I.K., using it as Ed describes. As to Merit, we have been impressed with its effectiveness when applied at the roots of our hemlocks (for woolly adelgids and scale) and locusts (for a recurring leafhopper infestation), both of which only needed one application to eradicate these pests which have not recurred for almost nine years now. We originally chose the Merit because it could be applied underground and taken up systemically which seemed to be the best way by far to limit exposure for us. In the orchid spray, so far it seems to be equally effective.... One other comment about the original posting on this subject, which came from an article in the Washington Post: we have had problems with using any of the oils as a dip. They settle out very fast and we have had orchid damage when we tried using them as a dip. I suppose if you have a slave ( who undoubtedly used to wave fronds interminably over potentates' heads) constantly agitating the mix, you'd be alright--but this slave's arms couldn't take that method very long! Maybe this will not happen to your plants, but a word of caution. Ann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/orchids_orchidguide.com/attachments/20060530/777bb5c5/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:03:41 -0400 From: "Stephen Manza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OGD] caudatum vs. wallisii vs. warscewiczianum To: orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed According to traditional usage, the easiest way to distinguish between these 3 species/ varieties is to look at the color of the flower, especially the lip. caudatum - greenish-yellow flower, lip greenish-yellow with brown near the rim ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragcaudatum1.jpg wallisii - yellowish flower, lip creamy ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragwallisii2.jpg warscewiczianum - yellowish-brown flower, lip with yellowish background and a very dark brown area near the rim. ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragwarscewiczianum3.jpg There is a newer version of the above key detailed in: Braem, G.J., S. Ohlund, and R.-J. Quene. "Will the Real Phragmipedium warszewiczianum Please Stand Up?" Australian Orchid Review 70, no. 6 (Dec/Jan 2004-05): 4-15. According to that article, Phrag. caudatum is the same as above, Phrag. warscewiczianum is now the proper name for Phrag. wallisii above and Phrag. wallisii is reduced to the synonomy of Phrag. warscewiczianum. A new species, Phrag. popowii, is described to take the place of what used to be Phrag. warscewiczianum. (I think this is how it goes, but Dr. Braem would be the one to ask). For the most part, the traditional names are still used, but if purchasing a plant of any of the three it would probably be best to ask to make sure which taxon you're getting. --Stephen ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 00:15:41 -0500 From: "Sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Phrag caudatum and Phrag wallisii To: "Post in OGD" <orchids@orchidguide.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Martin wrote: Subject: [OGD] Phragmipedium caudatum and wallisii Can anyone tell me how to distinguish between these tow species? Martin Hi, Martin--- I find it quite easy to distinguish between caudatum and what has been called wallisii. Wallisii will have the dorsal and synsepal veined, with few cross-veins---caudatum will have a strongly tessellated dorsal sepal and synsepal. The rim of the pouch of wallisii is flared while the rim of the pouch of caudatum is not as flared and has an area of cilia on the rather flat edge, also. Pouch shape is different, too, with wallisii having a more elongated, slipper-like pouch while caudatum's pouch is more rounded. I also find wallisii to be an easy grower, not particularly subject to rot, while caudatum is a more finicky grower, and quite subject to rot. Although color is not a criterion to distinguish between species, wallisii is quite light, with a cream-colored pouch with spots showing through from the inside, whereas the pouch of caudatum is much darker, typically with lots of veining. Both have rather tall foliage, in contrast to the darker Central American species popowii, aka warscewiczianum. The lumpers will tell you that all the long-tailed phrags are one species, but the splitters among us recognize 5 species or subspecies, depending on the taxonomist you choose to follow. Since some of the various award systems have only fairly recently recognized different species among the long-tailed phrags, there are many "species" which are really hybrids of plants that were thought to be simply color or geographic variants. And of course there are the hybrids made with those variants and other phrags..... For more information on the long-tailed phrags, see the articles I co-authored with Guido Braem and Robert-Jan Quin? in Richardiana, the Australian Orchid Review and the Colombian journal Orquideolog?a in 2004-2005. If you do not have access to these journals, I can send you a copy; also, the articles will be published this year in in the US in the Slipper Orchid Alliance Newsletter. Just for the splitters, we recognized 5 species: caudatum, warszewiczianum (aka wallisii), lindenii, popowii (aka warszewiczianum) and exstaminodium. Cheers---Sandy Ohlund, in northern Indiana, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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