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Susan Taylor
Orchids Editor at BellaOnline

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Today's Topics:

   1. Frustration, dislikes, amd missing comprehension (Prof. Dr. Braem)
   2. Schltr.'s Dendrobium in Die Orchidaceen von
      Deutsch-Neu-Guinea (Peter O'Byrne)
   3. Re: the apparent Icones-Braem controversy (John Stanley)
   4. Re: Subject:  Mealy Bugs Q & A, Imidicloprid ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   5. Re: caudatum vs. wallisii vs. warscewiczianum (Stephen Manza)
   6. Phrag caudatum and Phrag wallisii (Sandy)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:30:32 +0200
From: "Prof. Dr. Braem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [OGD] Frustration, dislikes, amd missing comprehension
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Icones wrote:

"I am glad to hear that my discussions with Guido are useful and that people do 
learn things.
However, it is very tiresome to have to work around his obvious dislike for the 
world and all the
people in it"


This, my dear Icones, shows how little you know of me and how biased you are 
about me. As for Kew,
I have no dislike for the place. I have never said that the weight of the 
decision of Kew botanists
is not as important as those of others. Again, you put words in my mouth. As 
for Phil Cribb, I have
no dislike for the man. I only have dislike for his actions.

As for Seidenfaden, he was a great man. For Kr?nzlin, well, Kr?nzlin was the 
student of Reichenbach
fil. and we know that the latter was not such a great botanist as may be 
deduced from his
"reputation".

I is indeed frustrating and tiring to discuss this with someone who simply does 
not want to
understand plain English. It correlates with you fear of putting your name to 
your messages.

Back to important work.

Guido J. Braem



-- 
Prof. Dr. Guido J. Braem
Naunheimer Str. 17
35633 Lahnau
Deutschland/Germany
Tel. +49 6441 65333




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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:57:36 +0800
From: "Peter O'Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [OGD] Schltr.'s Dendrobium in Die Orchidaceen von
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In OGD V8 #193, "icones" said: "In fact Schlechter was so disappointed
in Kraenzlin's work on Dendrobium, that he published a complete
revision of the genus in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea,
notwithstanding that all dendrobiums do not grow in what was then
German New Guinea."

Sorry, but that is (a) wrong, and (b) a misrepresentation of the way
botanists publish their findings.

a) What Schlechter published in Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea
was not even close to a "complete revision of the genus", but a
proposal for dividing the subtribe Dendrobiinae (as understood at that
time) into genera and sections, with keys and short notes. Some of the
items in his proposal get only the briefest of mentions, for instance
Macrocladium gets 9 lines, Eleutheroglossum gets 8 lines, Kinetochilus
gets 4 lines, while Porpax (a whole genus) is limited to one word in
the introduction, and one line in a key. A complete revision would
involve a full critical examination of every species.

b) Schlechter used Die Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea as an
opportunity to publish his ideas for the taxonomic division of almost
every group of orchids in S.E.Asia, so in the book you'll find a
similar treament accorded to Bulbophyllum, Coelogyne, the Thelasinae
and the Sarcanthinae, among others. It is perfectly normal for
botanists to publish where and when they can, regardless of the name
of the publication. Leslie Garay published his generic treatment on
the Aeridiinae in Harvard Papers on Botany, notwithstanding that zero
Aeridiinae occur naturally in Harvard. Gunnar Seidenfaden included
descriptions and diagrams of orchids that are endemic to Myanmar and
Malaysia in his "Orchid Genera in Thailand", and I'm very grateful
that he did; it makes his work much more useful.

Cheers,

Peter O'Byrne



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:36:42 +0100
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The Icones-Braem (Apparent) controversy,
Ken; first, Guido Braem is quite right in, if I interpret correctly to his 
satisfaction (!) that expertise and authority are not the same. You mention 
Phil Cribb who, in the world I inhabit, is extremely well regarded. However, 
he is human and in the book he co-authored - The Manual of Cultivated 
Orchids - there are nomenclatural/taxonomic errors that I'd be embarrassed 
to have slipping through an editor's scrutiny. Peer review, in taxonomic 
matters, is notoriously problematical since there can be occasions when a 
peer reviewer, specialised enough in an authors taxonomic area, may not be 
available. In the small world of the taxonomy of some plant (or animal) 
groups a single person may be the only real expert.

and Guido; although I think you are right in being so assertive about your 
'correct' viewpoint, I think you should take into account that we mortals in 
taxonomy, nomenclature and faith in authors need to converse and that we may 
sometimes be guilty of fuzzy language. You are probably far more used to the 
avoidance of ambiguity or misinterpretation as anyone familiar with the 
pitfalls of nomenclatural accuracy have to be. Most of the time, most of us, 
deal in shades of meaning. Most of the conversations in this forum aren't 
for 'publication' in the formal sense. You are right to correct us but do 
remember that we aren't all involved in professional research!

That's why I, for one, am learning alot from what looks like a sparring 
match whether intended or not. I just fear the development of argument 
turning to a row and that would be no use to anyone.
Cheers
John
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:53:55 EDT
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Thanks, Ed, for your comments on the Bayer Advanced Rose & Flower  Insect 
Killer, differentiating between it and. other Bayer insecticides on the  
market. 
I was just about to post saying that we had been using the Rose &  Flower 
Insect spray (which says "also for houseplants" on the label front) for a  
month 
or so now, with little indications of adverse human reaction. We may be  good 
"mine canaries", as I do have rapid reactions to a number of chemicals,  
including many commonly used in the home and in public places, and my  husband 
has a 
kidney condition, which means we pick our chemicals carefully. So  far, 
neither of us has had any problem from the B.A.R.&F.I.K., using it as  Ed 
describes.
 
As to Merit, we have been impressed with its effectiveness when applied  at 
the roots of our hemlocks (for woolly adelgids and scale) and locusts  (for a 
recurring leafhopper infestation), both of which only needed one  application 
to eradicate these pests which have not recurred for almost nine  years now. We 
originally chose the Merit because it could be applied underground  and taken 
up systemically which seemed to be the best way by far to limit  exposure for 
us. In the orchid spray, so far it seems to be equally  effective....
 
One other comment about the original posting on this subject, which came  
from an article in the Washington Post: we have had problems with using any of  
the oils as a dip. They settle out very fast and we have had orchid damage when 
 we tried using them as a dip. I suppose if you have a slave ( who 
undoubtedly  used to wave fronds interminably over potentates' heads)  
constantly 
agitating the mix, you'd be alright--but this slave's  arms couldn't take that 
method very long!  Maybe this will not  happen to your plants, but a word of 
caution.
 
Ann
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:03:41 -0400
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According to traditional usage, the easiest way to distinguish between
these 3 species/ varieties is to look at the color of the flower,
especially the lip.

caudatum - greenish-yellow flower, lip greenish-yellow with brown near the rim
ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragcaudatum1.jpg

wallisii - yellowish flower, lip creamy
ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragwallisii2.jpg

warscewiczianum - yellowish-brown flower, lip with yellowish
background and a very dark brown area near the rim.
ex. http://www.slipperorchids.info/phragspecies/Phragwarscewiczianum3.jpg

There is a newer version of the above key detailed in:
Braem, G.J., S. Ohlund, and R.-J. Quene. "Will the Real Phragmipedium
warszewiczianum Please Stand Up?" Australian Orchid Review 70, no. 6
(Dec/Jan 2004-05): 4-15.

According to that article, Phrag. caudatum is the same as above,
Phrag. warscewiczianum is now the proper name for Phrag. wallisii
above and Phrag. wallisii is reduced to the synonomy of Phrag.
warscewiczianum.  A new species, Phrag. popowii, is described to take
the place of what used to be Phrag. warscewiczianum.  (I think this is
how it goes, but Dr. Braem would be the one to ask).

For the most part, the traditional names are still used, but if
purchasing a plant of any of the three it would probably be best to
ask to make sure which taxon you're getting.

--Stephen



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 00:15:41 -0500
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Martin wrote:  
Subject: [OGD] Phragmipedium caudatum and wallisii

Can anyone tell me how to distinguish between these tow species?

Martin

Hi, Martin---

     I find it quite easy to distinguish between caudatum and what has been 
called wallisii. 
Wallisii will have the dorsal and synsepal veined, with few 
cross-veins---caudatum will have a
strongly tessellated dorsal sepal and synsepal.  The rim of the pouch of 
wallisii is flared while
the rim of the pouch of caudatum is not as flared and has an area of cilia on 
the rather flat edge,
also.  Pouch shape is different, too, with wallisii having a more elongated, 
slipper-like pouch
while caudatum's pouch is more rounded.  I also find wallisii to be an easy 
grower, not
particularly subject to rot, while caudatum is a more finicky grower, and quite 
subject to rot. 
Although color is not a criterion to distinguish between species, wallisii is 
quite light, with a
cream-colored pouch with spots showing through from the inside, whereas the 
pouch of caudatum is
much darker, typically with lots of veining.  Both have rather tall foliage, in 
contrast to the
darker Central American species popowii, aka warscewiczianum.
    The lumpers will tell you that all the long-tailed phrags are one species, 
but the splitters
among us recognize 5 species or subspecies, depending on the taxonomist you 
choose to follow.  
Since some of the various award systems have only fairly recently recognized 
different species
among the long-tailed phrags, there are many "species" which are really hybrids 
of plants that were
thought to be simply color or geographic variants.  And of course there are the 
hybrids made with
those variants and other phrags.....  For more information on the long-tailed 
phrags, see the
articles I co-authored with Guido Braem and Robert-Jan Quin? in Richardiana, 
the Australian Orchid
Review and the Colombian journal Orquideolog?a in 2004-2005.  If you do not 
have access to these
journals, I can send you a copy; also, the articles will be published this year 
in in the US in the
Slipper Orchid Alliance Newsletter.  Just for the splitters, we recognized 5 
species:  caudatum,
warszewiczianum (aka wallisii), lindenii, popowii (aka warszewiczianum) and 
exstaminodium.  

Cheers---Sandy Ohlund, in northern Indiana, USA
    
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