Re: [Origami] Modular icosahedron with plain faces?

[Meenakshi Mukerji]

Both Origami Omnibus by Kasahara, and Unit Origami Multidimensional
Transformations by Fuse have equilateral triangular flat units for
constructing polyhedra, including icosahedron. Fuse's method uses separate
joint units. None of these are particularly stable.

Meenakshi



>
> So if you know such model please let me know the name, author and if
> possible where its diagram is published.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Jorge Jaramillo
>
>

Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Andrew Hans]

Ilan Garibi wrote:

 Do we really ask a permission from every writer to read his book in front
 of our class? It doesn't make sense at all, just like with any other
 creation. Do we ask permission from a painter to talk about his paintings
 in class?

Laura Rozenberg wrote:

I totally agree and second Ilan’s thoughts. In the past I used the same
analogy
as this questions surfaces time and again.
We don’t ask permission to the authors of text books in a chemistry class,
or a biology class,
We don’t call Sony records (or whoever holds the copyright) to use The
Beatles’s scores
to teach their music in a conservatory teaching room.

I am curious then, as to why Origami OUSA has a different opinion. They
require us to get permission from the model designer or the estate if
deceased in order to teach a model at their convention. Is there someone
from that organization that cares to comment and offer their perspective on
things?

Andrew Hans

Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Laura R]

On Sep 7, 2017, at 6:12 AM, Koshiro Hatori  wrote:
> 
> I would be on the safe side and ask permissions when I use someone's 
> origami models in my classes.
> 
> Hatori, Koshiro

I do agree. I I were to teach a model I would search for the author 
to let him/her know and ask for permission. I learnt that being
part of the origami community, and I think it is 
a polite thing to do. If he said “no”, I would look for something else. 
But I try to see the big picture as well. I am aware that most people
these days, who purchase an origami book on Amazon or elsewhere
may not even be aware of this sort of discussion, and simply do what
they are accustomed to do in workshops, classes, etc. —grab the
book and teach. He might live in the middle of Patagonia and might
never heard or even imagine that they need to reach out for an author
through emails or any other means of communication. It seems
to me a tacit rule for certain countries and places, not for everyone. 
Common sense. 

A parallel discussion would be: an origami teacher should be entitled 
of a payment for his/her services if he wishes so? 
My opinion is a strong yes, whether he teaches a traditional model 
or someone else’s model. He’s getting paid for his knowledge as a teacher, 
which comprises a certain set of skills, experience, and personal 
characteristics.
Should she share the profits or pay
a percentage with the author in case there is one? Again, for those
who happen to be in the “little bubble” where we are all in here, we can discuss
this and mostly will agree. Either because we believe it’s the right thing to 
do 
or because we don’t want to upset our friends. ;) 
But for those (big universe) who might not even know about
the origami community, well, we can’t expect something too far
from general common sense. 

Laura

Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Koshiro Hatori]

> > Do we really ask a permission from every writer to read his book in front
> > of our class? It doesn't make sense at all, just like with any other
> > creation. Do we ask permission from a painter to talk about his paintings
> > in class?
> > Ilan Garibi
> 
> I totally agree and second Ilan’s thoughts. 
> Laura Rozenberg

Though Ilan's and Laura's points make sense as personal opinions, I am
sure 
not everyone think the same way.

In Japan, we happens to have almost the same disputes in music. JASRAC,
the 
Japan's largest copyrights agency for composers and musicians, wants to 
charge license fees for musical works that are used in private music
schools.
The agency believes the music schools need licenses to use music works
in 
paid music classes. Of course, all music schools disagree. It seems many
Japanese are on music schools' side, but at least some layers say JASRAC 
has legal rights to charge license fee for tunes played in private music 
schools.

I would be on the safe side and ask permissions when I use someone's 
origami models in my classes.

Happy folding,

Hatori, Koshiro
mailto:orig...@ousaan.com
http://www.ousaan.com/