[Origami] Help identifying creator

[Janet Hamilton via Origami]

I am trying to help someone identify the creator of the model pictured below. I 
can find it online, but no attribution. Does anyone know the creator ? Is it 
traditional?



Janet

Re: [Origami] Origami Digest, Vol 218, Issue 14

[Laura R via Origami]

Sorry, I found the date in a stripe at the lower end of the inner backcover. It 
says in Japanese:
Origami 1, 1958, July 16. Akira Yoshizawa. Printer: Kyuryudo Printing Company 
Ltd. 2-232 Kami Ogikubo, Suginami-ku, Tokyo, International Origami Research 
Society, transfer number: TOkyo 75163. Retail price: 150 yens

Laura Rozenberg

> On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:54 PM, Laura R  wrote:
> 
> Here at the Museo del Origami, we have a copy of this book. It was a gift 
> from Lillian Oppenheimer to Ligia Montoya of Argentina. The dedications says: 
> “To Ligia, whose generosity exceeds only her creative talents”. Ligia died in 
> in 1967. So this is a confirmation that the book was published not in 1978 
> but earlier, possibly in 1958 if you have the date in the book (I don’t see 
> it). 
> 
> The lower right corner of the cover is missing. Perhaps the date was there, 
> because I can’t find any date in the rest of the book. 
> 
> The inner back cover has: “This book has been published by my association in 
> two versions: Japanese and English,with the kind permission of Kyuryudo 
> Printing Company, Ltd. We will continue to publish books for the general 
> public.”
> 
> I also see 150 yens (all with the google translator).
> 
> What’s different from earlier books by AY is that the drawings are much 
> bigger (facilitating the comprehension of beginners). To me, they were not 
> drawn by Yoshizawa himself. They look very different from his drawings, are 
> much bigger, some of them with an illustrtion of hands holding models. They 
> look like drawings made at the publishing company. Maybe he granted 
> permission for someone else to adapt his illustrations? The book is 
> definitely a collaboration between AY and the publisher, as said in the 
> introduction.
> 
> It also has some traditional models, like the flapping bird and the frog. 
> 
> Laura
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2024, at 11:40 AM, David Kirkland via Origami 
>> mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Contents Origami Digest Vol 218, Issue 14, Topic 1:
>> Hi Lorenzo,
>> This book matches most of the book numbered 3 in British Origami Society’s, 
>> David Lister’s compilation, The Books Of Akira Yoshizawa.  I was able to 
>> acquire one from a Yoshizawa book lot. 
>> 
>> It does have 50 pages.  The dimensions are 19cm by 17cm.  The front and back 
>> card covers are in multi-color.  A monochromatic presentation is used for 
>> each origami subject and there are at least 6 different colors.  It is bound 
>> with a thick paper ribbon instead of string.  The arrangement of the bound 
>> pages are colorfully symmetrical with the center middle of the book.  There 
>> are 26 simple models.
>> 
>> The title page does have a bold number 1!  There is no ISBN number.  This is 
>> all that can be verified from your picture, Lister’s book #3 description, 
>> and my copy. 
>> 
>> The publication date is now the mystery.  Is it 1978 or is it 1958?  Lister 
>> did have a few typos in his origami Lists, but he was also a lawyer.  I 
>> would vote that his dates were spot on.  I think that Lister was correct 
>> about this book’s 1978 publication date.  I’m also thinking that the colors 
>> used for this publication could help determine the date.  Another data point 
>> for detective investigation is the original price of 150 yen.  So where does 
>> the 1958 come from?  
>> 
>> Inside the back cover of this book is a reference to 1958 . 7 . 16 and 6 
>> pictures of origami (face, sailboat, peacock, ?, ostrich, and nun) that are 
>> not diagrammed in this book.  The fourth origami pictured is so small; it 
>> could be a baby bird or puppy.  I could speculate that the inside back cover 
>> is a tribute to Yoshizawa’s Cooper Union exhibition in New York in 1958.  
>> Could it be a twenty year anniversary highlight?  Maybe this is why the 
>> picture that you have provided has a label referencing 1958.  I really want 
>> to learn Japanese!  We could have cleared up that inside back page in a 
>> jiffy.
>> 
>> There IS something mysterious about this book.  Please help us to focus our 
>> discoveries.
>> 
>> Many Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>>  wrote:
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Re: [Origami] Origami Digest, Vol 218, Issue 14

[Laura R via Origami]

Here at the Museo del Origami, we have a copy of this book. It was a gift from 
Lillian Oppenheimer to Ligia Montoya of Argentina. The dedications says: “To 
Ligia, whose generosity exceeds only her creative talents”. Ligia died in in 
1967. So this is a confirmation that the book was published not in 1978 but 
earlier, possibly in 1958 if you have the date in the book (I don’t see it). 

The lower right corner of the cover is missing. Perhaps the date was there, 
because I can’t find any date in the rest of the book. 

The inner back cover has: “This book has been published by my association in 
two versions: Japanese and English,with the kind permission of Kyuryudo 
Printing Company, Ltd. We will continue to publish books for the general 
public.”

I also see 150 yens (all with the google translator).

What’s different from earlier books by AY is that the drawings are much bigger 
(facilitating the comprehension of beginners). To me, they were not drawn by 
Yoshizawa himself. They look very different from his drawings, are much bigger, 
some of them with an illustrtion of hands holding models. They look like 
drawings made at the publishing company. Maybe he granted permission for 
someone else to adapt his illustrations? The book is definitely a collaboration 
between AY and the publisher, as said in the introduction.

It also has some traditional models, like the flapping bird and the frog. 

Laura

> On Jun 21, 2024, at 11:40 AM, David Kirkland via Origami 
>  wrote:
> 
> Contents Origami Digest Vol 218, Issue 14, Topic 1:
> Hi Lorenzo,
> This book matches most of the book numbered 3 in British Origami Society’s, 
> David Lister’s compilation, The Books Of Akira Yoshizawa.  I was able to 
> acquire one from a Yoshizawa book lot. 
> 
> It does have 50 pages.  The dimensions are 19cm by 17cm.  The front and back 
> card covers are in multi-color.  A monochromatic presentation is used for 
> each origami subject and there are at least 6 different colors.  It is bound 
> with a thick paper ribbon instead of string.  The arrangement of the bound 
> pages are colorfully symmetrical with the center middle of the book.  There 
> are 26 simple models.
> 
> The title page does have a bold number 1!  There is no ISBN number.  This is 
> all that can be verified from your picture, Lister’s book #3 description, and 
> my copy. 
> 
> The publication date is now the mystery.  Is it 1978 or is it 1958?  Lister 
> did have a few typos in his origami Lists, but he was also a lawyer.  I would 
> vote that his dates were spot on.  I think that Lister was correct about this 
> book’s 1978 publication date.  I’m also thinking that the colors used for 
> this publication could help determine the date.  Another data point for 
> detective investigation is the original price of 150 yen.  So where does the 
> 1958 come from?  
> 
> Inside the back cover of this book is a reference to 1958 . 7 . 16 and 6 
> pictures of origami (face, sailboat, peacock, ?, ostrich, and nun) that are 
> not diagrammed in this book.  The fourth origami pictured is so small; it 
> could be a baby bird or puppy.  I could speculate that the inside back cover 
> is a tribute to Yoshizawa’s Cooper Union exhibition in New York in 1958.  
> Could it be a twenty year anniversary highlight?  Maybe this is why the 
> picture that you have provided has a label referencing 1958.  I really want 
> to learn Japanese!  We could have cleared up that inside back page in a jiffy.
> 
> There IS something mysterious about this book.  Please help us to focus our 
> discoveries.
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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>   1. Yoshizawa "misterious" book (at least for me) (Lorenzo)
>   2. OUSA Convention - I invite you to participate in the ATCswap
>   (gera...@neorigami.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:09:05 +0200
> From: Lorenzo mailto:lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com>>
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Re: [Origami] Origami Digest, Vol 218, Issue 14

[David Kirkland via Origami]

Contents Origami Digest Vol 218, Issue 14, Topic 1:Hi Lorenzo,This book matches 
most of the book numbered 3 in British Origami Society’s, David Lister’s 
compilation, The Books Of Akira Yoshizawa.  I was able to acquire one from a 
Yoshizawa book lot. 
It does have 50 pages.  The dimensions are 19cm by 17cm.  The front and back 
card covers are in multi-color.  A monochromatic presentation is used for each 
origami subject and there are at least 6 different colors.  It is bound with a 
thick paper ribbon instead of string.  The arrangement of the bound pages are 
colorfully symmetrical with the center middle of the book.  There are 26 simple 
models.
The title page does have a bold number 1!  There is no ISBN number.  This is 
all that can be verified from your picture, Lister’s book #3 description, and 
my copy. 
The publication date is now the mystery.  Is it 1978 or is it 1958?  Lister did 
have a few typos in his origami Lists, but he was also a lawyer.  I would vote 
that his dates were spot on.  I think that Lister was correct about this book’s 
1978 publication date.  I’m also thinking that the colors used for this 
publication could help determine the date.  Another data point for detective 
investigation is the original price of 150 yen.  So where does the 1958 come 
from?  
Inside the back cover of this book is a reference to 1958 . 7 . 16 and 6 
pictures of origami (face, sailboat, peacock, ?, ostrich, and nun) that are not 
diagrammed in this book.  The fourth origami pictured is so small; it could be 
a baby bird or puppy.  I could speculate that the inside back cover is a 
tribute to Yoshizawa’s Cooper Union exhibition in New York in 1958.  Could it 
be a twenty year anniversary highlight?  Maybe this is why the picture that you 
have provided has a label referencing 1958.  I really want to learn Japanese!  
We could have cleared up that inside back page in a jiffy.
There IS something mysterious about this book.  Please help us to focus our 
discoveries.
Many Thanks,Dave





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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:09:05 +0200
From: Lorenzo 
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Subject: [Origami] Yoshizawa "misterious" book (at least for me)
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Hi everybody,

Does anyone know what book this is, and maybe have more information or a
better picture of it?

https://www.oriwiki.com/showPub.php?BookID=5379
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I wasn't able to link this cover to any of the books listed by David lister
in his compilation of books written by Yoshizawa:
https://www.britishorigami.org/cp-lister-list/the-books-of-akira-yoshizawa/

Regards,
Lorenzo



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Duesseldorf - Germany
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:21:37 + (UTC)
From: "gera...@neorigami.com" 
To: Origami Lists Digitalorigami 
Subject: [Origami] OUSA Convention - I invite you to participate in
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In just a couple of days (Monday, July 24) it will be the deadline for 
registering to the OrigamiUSA convention - artist trading card swap. I'll be 
participating and hope I can share cards with you. That is why I'm sending this 
email to invite you to register as well. 

If you'll attend the convention you can participate in person, but if you 
won't, you can still be a part of the swap. Read all the details here: 
https://origamiusa.org/convention2024-activity-atc-swap 

And if you have origami friends where you live, you can also take their cards 
to the swap. Just make sure you talk about it with the swap host ASAP.

[Origami] Do not miss Sok Song's talk about his BA in Origami and Fine Art - Tomorrow

[Ilan Garibi via Origami]

Dear fellow folders,

The CFC is happy to host Sok Song for our fourth in a series of interviews.

This talk is free and open to all CFC members, both folders and creators.

Time and Day: Tomorrow, June 22nd, Saturday, 18:00 Paris time

Sok Song has a BA in Origami and Fine Art, and he is going to tell us all
about that!

 Please visit the CFC site to register .
You must be logged in to reach this page.

We hope to see you with us!

Ilan Garibi
CFC Manager
www.cfcorigami.com