[Origami] (Forwarding) Request for Origami Artist for a Private Event

2024-10-09 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
We received this request; please do not reply to me or to the list, but use
the contact info listed in the message if you're interested! (Of course, if
you do take the job, and it's cool, please do come back and tell the list
about your experience!)


 ***
I’m inquiring about hiring an Origami artist for a private event on
November 9th, 2024, in Houston, Texas. We are interested in having an
origami artist as part of the entertainment for our guests.

If you are available and interested, please send more details about your
services and pricing to willowbyeve...@gmail.com. We would love to discuss
how you could help make this event even more special.

Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Rachel Gleitman
willowbyeve...@gmail.com


Re: [Origami] Yet Another Birthday for the O-list!

2024-05-24 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:31 PM Laura R via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> Happy birthday dear O-List!
> Anne, do you happen to keep a copy of the first (or some of the first)
> email exchange?


The short answer is: yes, we have the data, possibly even all of it.

The longer answer is: it's not in easily shareable/archivable/viewable
format(s). It did take a while for things to get rolling, so the first
bundles of conversations are not all that interesting, really.

That said, "getting the o-list archives somewhere usable, sometime" has
long been on the list of things that would be nice to do for the list...
but it's a Pretty Serious Project, at this point. The data is stored in
multiple chunks, in random formats, so putting them all into something that
could act like a single mail archive would be quite a job. A huge pile of
the early messages were not kept as actual email messages, so their unique
message-IDs, which systems use for creating threading, don't exist any
more. They would likely take human intervention [and there are tens of
thousands of them!] to clean up into something like a real mail archive.
I've wondered, on and off, if there's a way to somehow wiki-fy [not
*actually* a wiki, just the concept] the information, and get volunteers
with the right mindset to attack it, and gradually tidy it up. But
wrangling that, and/or running/creating a system that would make such a
collaborative effort possible, is itself a pretty big project.

Anne



>
> > On May 23, 2024, at 5:12 PM, Anne LaVin via Origami <
> origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, the List is another year older.
> >
> > For this is the day when, back in 1988 (!) the first messages were
> exchanged in what would eventually migrate to this version of the List, run
> on a private server my husband and I maintain, using the open-source
> Mailman mailing list system.
> >
> > Pretty much everything has changed a lot since then, but the List is
> still getting used, so we're still here. Maybe this will be the year to
> migrate things to a forum-style backend (I hear good things about
> Discourse) but there will always be an email component for you diehards,
> never fear!
> >
> > I hope everyone is having a grand day. Do go fold something, and come
> back and tell us about it!
> >
> > Anne
> >
>
>


[Origami] Yet Another Birthday for the O-list!

2024-05-23 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
Yep, the List is another year older.

For this is the day when, back in 1988 (!) the first messages were
exchanged in what would eventually migrate to this version of the List, run
on a private server my husband and I maintain, using the open-source
Mailman mailing list system.

Pretty much everything has changed a lot since then, but the List is still
getting used, so we're still here. Maybe this will be the year to migrate
things to a forum-style backend (I hear good things about Discourse) but
there will always be an email component for you diehards, never fear!

I hope everyone is having a grand day. Do go fold something, and come back
and tell us about it!

Anne


Re: [Origami] New instructional video release (Joseph Wu)

2024-05-13 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
We are all, of course, very sorry to see anyone go, but wish you the best
of luck on 'net.

If anyone needs assistance with their list subscription, please contact the
list owners at:

  origami-own...@lists.digitalorigami.com

and we'll be happy to help.

Anne LaVin


On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:52 AM Anne Arrowsmith  wrote:

> Was waiting for the response. This is different. Unsubscribing.
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:58 PM Anne LaVin via Origami <
> origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
>
>> We're very sorry that you found Joseph's post objectionable.
>>
>> Prior to his posting it, we discussed the content, and whether it would
>> cause problems on the list.
>>
>> We decided that, as stated in the message, sometimes art is indeed
>> political, and that folks might not agree with or be offended by the cause
>> it was created to support. The title of the piece made the content clear,
>> and readers could choose whether or not they wished to follow the link, or
>> ignore it.
>>
>> That an artist might make art supporting their views around such a
>> contentious, complex and difficult situation is hardly surprising. Posting
>> about the existence of such art was not intended to offend, nor make anyone
>> feel unwelcome or threatened in any way.
>>
>> And, at the end of the day, the post was about *origami art* - you might
>> not like how it was executed, what it represents, or what it is in support
>> of, but that happens, sometimes, with art.
>>
>> Anne LaVin
>> list admin
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:55 PM Leslie Mitchell via Origami <
>> origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This posting & its linked video/commentary are entirely inappropriate
>>> for this list & I'm very surprised that it was allowed. I've been on this
>>> list for 20+ years & it's always been a fun, creative &
>>> *non-threatening* space for folders of any race/creed/religion, until
>>> today. The suggestion of discussing its art-related aspects rather than
>>> political implications for such inflammatory content is ridiculous. My
>>> comments have nothing to do with free speech, but rather with poor
>>> discretion, despite the link's origami-related content. I believe that this
>>> post is what should find another venue.
>>>
>>>
>>> Leslie
>>> __
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 12:31:23 -0700
>>> From: Joseph Wu 
>>> To: List Origami Mailing 
>>> Subject: [Origami] New instructional video release
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> This list is not a place for political discussions, but art is sometimes
>>> political. I've created a piece (and released an instructional video for
>>> it) in support of a cause with which you might not agree, or find
>>> offensive. Please discuss the *art* or *origami* aspects of this here; if
>>> you wish to engage in political dialog, you'll need to find another venue.
>>>
>>> This piece, ?Cat Head for Palestine?, was originally designed for the
>>> Origami World Marathon 2024. Since I almost never make instructions of any
>>> kind, I decided to withdraw it from that event and to release it for this
>>> purpose instead.
>>>
>>> You can find the video, with more information about the design, here:
>>> https://vimeo.com/910557067
>>>
>>>


Re: [Origami] New instructional video release (Joseph Wu)

2024-05-12 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
We're very sorry that you found Joseph's post objectionable.

Prior to his posting it, we discussed the content, and whether it would
cause problems on the list.

We decided that, as stated in the message, sometimes art is indeed
political, and that folks might not agree with or be offended by the cause
it was created to support. The title of the piece made the content clear,
and readers could choose whether or not they wished to follow the link, or
ignore it.

That an artist might make art supporting their views around such a
contentious, complex and difficult situation is hardly surprising. Posting
about the existence of such art was not intended to offend, nor make anyone
feel unwelcome or threatened in any way.

And, at the end of the day, the post was about *origami art* - you might
not like how it was executed, what it represents, or what it is in support
of, but that happens, sometimes, with art.

Anne LaVin
list admin


On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:55 PM Leslie Mitchell via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> This posting & its linked video/commentary are entirely inappropriate for
> this list & I'm very surprised that it was allowed. I've been on this list
> for 20+ years & it's always been a fun, creative & *non-threatening*
> space for folders of any race/creed/religion, until today. The suggestion
> of discussing its art-related aspects rather than political implications
> for such inflammatory content is ridiculous. My comments have nothing to
> do with free speech, but rather with poor discretion, despite the link's
> origami-related content. I believe that this post is what should find
> another venue.
>
>
> Leslie
> __
>
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 12:00:05 PM EDT,
> origami-requ...@lists.digitalorigami.com <
> origami-requ...@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
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> --
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 12:31:23 -0700
> From: Joseph Wu 
> To: List Origami Mailing 
> Subject: [Origami] New instructional video release
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> This list is not a place for political discussions, but art is sometimes
> political. I've created a piece (and released an instructional video for
> it) in support of a cause with which you might not agree, or find
> offensive. Please discuss the *art* or *origami* aspects of this here; if
> you wish to engage in political dialog, you'll need to find another venue.
>
> This piece, ?Cat Head for Palestine?, was originally designed for the
> Origami World Marathon 2024. Since I almost never make instructions of any
> kind, I decided to withdraw it from that event and to release it for this
> purpose instead.
>
> You can find the video, with more information about the design, here:
> https://vimeo.com/910557067
>
> --
> Joseph Wu, Origami Artist (via iPhone)
> e: josep...@origami.as
> w: http://www.origami.as
> flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/josephwuorigami/
> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/joseph.wu.origami
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[Origami] March O-list Reminders: how to post, modify your subscription, etc.

2024-03-16 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
*This month's factoid:*
This past month I've noticed a number of one-line messages consisting of
only a link URL in the message body. While this type of posting is common
in other types of social media, it doesn't actually work that well in email.

*One technical reason:* a single-line, URL-only message looks a lot like
spam to some of the over-zealous ISPs out there. You'll have far better
chances that your message will actually get delivered if you put some
commentary text in there with your link.

*And a human/communications reason:* email is, still, intended to be a
medium that involves at least little reading - part of the point of the
continued existence of the List is to provide a place for you to express
opinions, expound a bit on what something meant to you... a bit more than a
simple thumbs-up/unhappy-face/etc.

So, accompanying text is not a requirement - but it's highly encouraged!


*Things To Remember About This List:*
This mailing list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list,
etc., is: unaffiliated with any particular origami association;
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You can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
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To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

If you're having trouble with the list, you can reach *only the list admins*,
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Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and please, never send
mail to the admins' personal email addresses with list admin stuff.

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] FEBRUARY O-list REMINDER: how to post, modify your subscription, etc.

2024-02-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
*This month's factoid:*

Tired of getting O-list mail one message at a time? You can get the mail in
"digest" format instead, once per day.

Specifically, each day at about midday US East Coast time, the server
bundles together the past 24 hours' worth of messages and sends it out in a
special format. Note that if there are no posts in a 24-hour period - which
does happen if the list is in a quiet phase - there will be no digest sent
out.

You can choose this setting in the user subscription area - see below.

(Also, no, you're not mis-remembering, there was no January reminder.
Entirely my fault, I forgot to set up the auto-delivery. Sorry 'bout that!)

*Things To Remember About This List:*

This mailing list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list,
etc., is: unaffiliated with any particular origami association;
international; public; publicly archived; and set up to be entirely
self-service.

You can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page, which you should bookmark somewhere secure:

 https://lists.digitalorigami.com/mailman/listinfo/origami

There will be a password associated with your subscription which you will
need to use to get to your profile page - please note that somewhere, as
well. (But if you lose it, you can ask the system to send it to you, never
fear.)

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

If you're having trouble with the list, you can reach *only the list
admins*, at either of these addresses:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
distinguish where you're sending your mail.

For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and please, never send
mail to the admins' personal email addresses with list admin stuff.

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] DECEMBER REMINDER: how to post, modify your subscription, etc.

2023-12-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is:
unaffiliated with any particular origami association; international;
public; publicly archived; and is set up to be entirely self-service. You
can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page:

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Please bookmark it somewhere secure! There will be a password associated
with your subscription which you will need to use to get to your profile
page - please note that somewhere, as well. If you lose it, you can ask the
system to send it to you.

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

To reach *only the list admins*, address your mail to either:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] ADMIN - Attachments, formats, etc. on the O-list

2023-11-23 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:12 AM Bernie Cosell 
wrote:
>
> It appears that this list doesn't allow attachments.. sigh.

Well, the List most definitely *does* allow attachments, it just didn't
allow the kind of attachment mechanism used in this particular email. (We
were allowing attachments via a restrictive "these types are ok, everything
else gets discarded" mechanism, instead of a more flexible "allow
attachments, except for these bad types" setup.)

I have modified the list settings to let more stuff through, hopefully it
will avoid this kind of thing in the future.

Of course, if anyone notices specific content or whole messages that do not
display in their mail app, please do NOT post the problem to the list
itself; instead inform either the original author of the message, or the
list admins - via email to either admin address:

 
 

...which you have all saved, right? - and we'll take a look! When you are
reporting a problem, please be prepared to describe the type of device,
operating system and mail application that you are using; screenshots of
the situation are also highly appreciated.

Anne
for the list admins


[Origami] NOVEMBER REMINDER: how to post, modify your subscription, etc.

2023-11-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is:
unaffiliated with any particular origami association; international;
public; publicly archived; and is set up to be entirely self-service. You
can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page:

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Please bookmark it somewhere secure! There will be a password associated
with your subscription which you will need to use to get to your profile
page - please note that somewhere, as well. If you lose it, you can ask the
system to send it to you.

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

To reach *only the list admins*, address your mail to either:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] OCTOBER REMINDER: how to post, modify your subscription, etc

2023-10-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is:
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send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] MONTHLY REMINDER: how to post, modify your subscription, etc.

2023-08-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] MONTHLY REMINDER: list info link and email addresses

2023-07-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is
public, publicly archived, and is intended to be entirely self-service. You
can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page:

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Please bookmark it somewhere secure! There will be a password associated
with your subscription which you will need to get to your profile page;
please note that somewhere, as well. If you lose it, you can ask the system
to send it to you.

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

To reach *only the list admins*, address your mail to either:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] MONTHLY REMINDER: list info link and email addresses

2023-06-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is
public, publicly archived, and is intended to be entirely self-service. You
can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page:

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Please bookmark it somewhere secure! There will be a password associated
with your subscription which you will need to get to your profile page;
please note that somewhere, as well. If you lose it, you can ask the system
to send it to you.

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

To reach *only the list admins*, address your mail to either:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
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For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


[Origami] ADMIN REMINDER: list info link and email addresses

2023-05-15 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
Recent list-admin-related activity has motivated me to resurrect an old
list service, that of a monthly admin post reminding folks how the list
works, including important links and addresses. So:

This list, variously referred to as The Origami List, The O-list, etc., is
public, publicly archived, and is intended to be entirely self-service. You
can find the archives, subscribe, unsubscribe, and modify your list
subscription via this page:

 https://lists.digitalorigami.com/mailman/listinfo/origami

Please bookmark it somewhere secure! There will be a password associated
with your subscription which you will need to get to your profile page;
please note that somewhere, as well. If you lose it, you can ask the system
to send it to you.

To post a message *to the entire list*, address it to:

 

To reach *only the list admins*, address your mail to either:

 
 

Please make a note of them all in a way that makes it possible to
distinguish where you're sending your mail.

For the sake of your fellow list members and your admins, please try not to
send administrative stuff to the main list address, and never send admin
mail to the admins' personal email addresses!

Thanks. Now, go fold something, and come back and tell us about it!

Anne LaVin
for the o-list admin gang


Re: [Origami] Blind-accessible/telephone origami (was: How to fold an Origami Crane according to Chat GPT)

2023-02-19 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:41 PM wanderer via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> Thanks Laura - that’s a great article.
>
> And I think parts of it are online on instagram as well. However - if
> anyone wants to read article, but cannot because of NYT paywall, lmk. I’ll
> be happy to make PDF or take screenshots for y’all.
>

The digital interfaces to the NYT generally give subscribers the ability to
share ("gift") a certain number of articles per month for free. Please
consider using this facility to share articles, rather than sending
copyrighted material around on the list. If you cannot find the "gift this
article" link, or your subscription doesn't give you that access, let me
know, I can do so.

Thanks,

Anne


Re: [Origami] Books discussions + Re: Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)

2022-12-31 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
First off, let me wish all the O-list members, far and near, a very happy
new year!

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 7:40 AM Lorenzo via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

>
> Just a note about this topic (books/publications): I held back from
> sending these kinds of messages to the list, in the past, because I thought
> (and still think) these are interesting topics for a small part of the
> origamists only. And I didn't want to bother the list.
> Recently, I received only a few signs of interest for a separate group
> (focused to books/publications only). Too few, in my opinion, to give life
> to something that has a future, and certainly I don't want to promote any
> separation or "restricted" group, at all, and furthermore I'm also
> discontinuous in my activities, so it has to be a shared effort.
> So, please, keep contacting me privately, if interested in discussing
> about collecting books, as we can sort out a proper solution (such as a
> public FB page which anyone can consult, without having the email inbox
> flooded).
>

I will play devil's advocate, here, and ask *why* a group mailing list is
not a "proper" solution for this discussion? Even if a particular topic is
of interest to only part of the community, isn't that nearly always true,
for any given thread?

While I am the first to agree that the use of email (and the technology
that people use to read and send it) has not evolved in a way that makes
true discussion lists all that common any more, this is a pretty
low-traffic list at the moment. It could, in my opinion, certainly
withstand some regular discussion of something as important to the
community as origami books and other publications.

If that level of list traffic were to be perceived as a "flood", or if this
sort of thing is somehow no longer desired by the list membership, well,
does anyone have a better idea for some sort of forum that would support
such a discussion? Should we finally find another underlying solution for a
home for the O-list community?

Personally, I do not think that a social-media page is really that great a
way to have a discussion; but then, email has its own limitations, too.
Honestly, no matter what you do, it's hard to have a *conversation* with
1200 people!

 - Email lists lately seem to mostly get used for one-way,
announcement-style stuff;

 - Facebook pages require a user to "go" to a spot to make sure they see
all the new material (and even then The Algorithm tries hard to only show
you what it thinks you want) and then dig through nested comments to follow
a conversation; and don't even go into what happens when users have blocked
or unfollowed each other so that no one can actually see a whole thread;

 - other social media's interfaces tend to focus on the imagery (still or
video);

 - forums or bulletin-board-like setups require a user to "go" there, and
then typically sub-divide content to the point that conversations die out
because they get hopelessly specific

And few systems are going to make it easy for folks to discuss something
for more than a few back-and-forth comments if they're coming in on a phone
or similar device.

It comes down to what specific sort of conversation does one want, and on
what topic, and how do you want people to interact with it, what people,
how often, etc.?  I think if one can try to nail down some of those
answers, then there's hope of creating a viable place for a particular
online (sub)-community to exist.

I have a server which could run any number of things - would something
other than email be useful, here?

Anne


Re: [Origami] Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)

2022-12-30 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 8:22 AM Lorenzo via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> happy new 2023 (or Guten Rutsch, as they say in Germany).
>
> Do any of you know who owns the Convention book from the 1st Tanteidan
> Convention in 1995?
> If you have any hint for me, where to search / who to ask... it'd be very
> appreciated.
>

This book is long (long) out of print, was privately printed (no ISBN)
and had a small production run. It is quite rare, in other words. A copy
has occasionally been sold (for, as I recall, several hundred dollars) when
auctioned a couple of times at Tokyo Tanteidan conventions in the past.

Wishing I owned a copy, myself!

I wonder if the Tanteidan powers-that-be could be persuaded to re-issue it,
and/or its similarly out-of-print siblings...

Anne


Re: [Origami] Questions about the establishment of Origami Day in Japan

2022-11-10 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 9:40 PM gera...@neorigami.com 
wrote:

> So I'm a bit curious about the stablishment of November 11 as Origami Day
> in Japan. Who participated in its establishment? In what year was it
> established?
>
> I know of two versions as to why was that date chosen as Origami Day: (a)
> 11/11 represent the four sides of a square of paper like the ones used most
> often for origami nowadays, and (b) the First World War Armistice was
> signed in that date, but in 1918, and since the origami crane became a
> symbol of peace with the passing of Sadako Sasaki, November 11 was
> considered a good date to celebrate origami.
>
> Is one of these two the main reason as to why that date was chosen? If so,
> which one? Was there another reason?
>

Here's some background direct from the JOAS website:

  https://origami.jp/world-origami-days/

which also attempts to link to this page (the link is broken, but I figured
out what it was supposed to be) which states that the 11/11 is indeed a
reference to 4 equal sides of a square, but doesn't give more detail:

  https://www.kinenbi.gr.jp/main.php?MD=3&NM=218

"Origami Day
Established by the Japan Origami Association for the purpose of letting
many people know the fun and educational effects of origami. This is
because if each 1 of this day, which has four 1s in a row, is regarded as
one side of a square origami, it will represent a total of 4 sides."

(Original Japanese:
おりがみの楽しさ、教育的な効果などを多くの人に知ってもらうことを目的に株式会社日本折紙協会が制定。日付は数字の1が4つ並ぶこの日のそれぞれの1を正方形のおりがみの1辺と見立てると、全部で4辺を表すことになるため。)

This references NOA ( 日本折紙協会), not JOAS, so I'm gathering it was something
originally started by them. You might try writing to them, or JOAS, for
more of the history.

Anne


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 4:20 PM Joseph Wu  wrote:

> On 2022-08-12 10:46, jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com wrote:
> > And at the CenterFold origami convention based solely on the names of
> attendees this year was 52% "female".  2019 was 54%.  Some of those are
> non-binary, trans etc.  Just going by eyeballing the list of names
>
> I'm impressed you could tell so much from a list of names.
>

As my mom used to say to us on road trips: "Don't make me pull over, you
two."

Since of course one cannot accurately deduce someone's gender from their
name, I interpreted this as meaning that as convention organizer, from
personal interactions, John knows that the numbers are not 100% accurate,
but are just rough ballpark figures.

 ... and moved on, keeping the discussion about *origami*. Which is what I
request we do, here.

Anne


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:43 AM Elina Gor via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> Thank you everyone who answered my request.
> I tried different academic databases like Google scholar, Proquest etc.
> But I didn't find what I was looking for. That's why I used this platform
> to find the answers.
> Thanks again to all of you who replied to me and shared their thoughts and
> experience.
> I would be happy to accept more of this.
>

I wonder if there's enough data in, say, the Origami Database (
https://oriwiki.com/) to pull out information along the lines of "how many
pieces of what type have been designed by folks who identify as a
particular gender per year?" This would only capture things
designed-and-published, but still could be could be an interesting thing to
chart over time.

Though there is no gender information in the database (at the moment) it's
not such a large community that that would be impossible to gather; and
information about where something is published and the date of the
publication is in there, I believe, or at least obtainable. Perhaps the
database maintainers could be convinced to do some interesting queries on
the existing data?

Much harder to capture is if there's any difference in *interest in folding
particular styles/types/etc. of origami* tied to any particular genders.
Maybe some kind of online survey could yield some interesting numbers?

And as a list admin I'll add a mild plea to everyone to recall that the
purpose of this list is to discuss origami, and that arguments about
gender, per se, are not appropriate here. Polite corrections or additions
to someone's content are fine, but let's please give everyone the benefit
of doubt and not assume anyone is trying to be insulting or non-inclusive.
This is an area of discourse where language and norms are rapidly evolving.
Be careful in what you say, and lenient in what you accept.

Anne


[Origami] ADMIN: a note about adding people to a post via CC

2022-08-10 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
In short: please don't.

Slightly longer: Please do not intentionally add anyone (or any other list)
via the CC field when posting to the list.

Why? Read on:

We generally have not allowed multiple recipients on O-list postings in
order to stop cross-posting between lists (makes for unwieldy
conversations) and to stop people from mass-CC'ing a ton of people on a
post (potentially exposing their addresses to the public list without their
consent).

We've had to very-slightly-relax this requirement to allow the *author* of
a post to be copied on a reply, which sometimes happens automatically due
to a complicated side effect of some modern email security settings.

So while you may sometimes see a list posting whose "To:" field looks like
this:

  To: , 

You should not, generally, see - nor, more importantly, *try to create* -
one that is of the form:

  To: 
  CC: 

with or without an extra person on the "To" field. I've just let one
through that has someone CC'd, but they're already on the thread, so there
is no particular harm in it, and it was easier to approve than have the
author re-write it.

But if you add someone to the CC field, it will likely cause the admins to
have to approve the message, which delays your message, and is more work
for us, neither of which is optimal.   :)

So, go fold something, come back and tell us, eschew CC'ing, &c.

Anne