[Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Joseph Wu



I apologize for sarcastically nitpicking on John’s final point and for 
ignoring the first part of his message.

His insights on the experiences of OPF were interesting and useful.
And looking at some of the other responses, it seems that there is 
actually some useful data out there that could be analyzed to provide 
some answers to the original question. I wonder if anyone would be 
willing to take up that task.
Moving forward, it should be relatively easy to collect current data. 
All that would be required would be to set up an online questionnaire 
and then promoting it widely across all the various origami 
organizations. Granted, that would skew the data towards people with 
internet access, but it would probably be able to generate more data 
than previously gathered.

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On Aug 12, 2022, at 12:30, jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com wrote:

On the question of gender (use any definition of gender here) differences in 
origami, we at Ohio Paper Folders have a somewhat unique experience in this, as 
we have taught literally tens of thousands of random people in hospitals, 
libraries, and especially at the Ohio Asian Festival, Columbus Arts festival 
and several similar events.

We pay to have a tent there and we teach the public beginner models at no 
charge.

We have seen essentially NO bias of gender, age, race, education level, income 
class, native born vs immigrant...Obviously downtown Columbus arts festival 
trends towards higher income people, but pretty broad racially.  Asian festival 
trends towards higher non-white percentage (both because of the type of 
festival and the fact that the venue borders a neighborhood that is very high 
percentage African American).  But...both no real gender bias.

And at the CenterFold origami convention based solely on the names of attendees this year 
was 52% "female".  2019 was 54%.  Some of those are non-binary, trans etc.  
Just going by eyeballing the list of names, so hardly scientific...but should be close 
enough for jazz.

John Scully








Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread jscully
I do actually know these people.  This years convention was one week ago.  
Let's put this one to bed.  I could say that rain is wet and you would object.

Joseph Wu said:

I'm impressed you could tell so much from a list of names.




Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Papirfoldning.dk
> On 13 Aug 2022, at 18.03, Alex Matthews via Origami
> The link for it is: 
> https://origamiusa.org/news/update-2-origamiusa-survey-results-2015-2016. 
> There is a wealth of information there that may help you in your research.
That is an amazing amount of data.

The male/female distribution says 47.2 % : 52.2 % which is very close to the an 
even distribution, given that with the age distribution these percentages are 
close to the general distribution (eye-balling the numbers at 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/)

/Hans

Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 4:20 PM Joseph Wu  wrote:

> On 2022-08-12 10:46, jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com wrote:
> > And at the CenterFold origami convention based solely on the names of
> attendees this year was 52% "female".  2019 was 54%.  Some of those are
> non-binary, trans etc.  Just going by eyeballing the list of names
>
> I'm impressed you could tell so much from a list of names.
>

As my mom used to say to us on road trips: "Don't make me pull over, you
two."

Since of course one cannot accurately deduce someone's gender from their
name, I interpreted this as meaning that as convention organizer, from
personal interactions, John knows that the numbers are not 100% accurate,
but are just rough ballpark figures.

 ... and moved on, keeping the discussion about *origami*. Which is what I
request we do, here.

Anne


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Alex Matthews via Origami
Hello Elina,

OrigamiUSA conducted a survey back in 2015 of over 1,700 individuals that 
looked at various trends in origami and its relation to OrigamiUSA, and part of 
that study looked at differences between gender, ethnicity, location, level of 
education, categories of models folded, and much more. The link for it is: 
https://origamiusa.org/news/update-2-origamiusa-survey-results-2015-2016 
. 
There is a wealth of information there that may help you in your research.

Best,
Alex



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> Hello origami fellows,
> I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if 
> there are any.
> Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields 
> differences.
> 
> Thank you,
> Elina Gor
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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-13 Thread Anne LaVin via Origami
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:43 AM Elina Gor via Origami <
origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:

> Thank you everyone who answered my request.
> I tried different academic databases like Google scholar, Proquest etc.
> But I didn't find what I was looking for. That's why I used this platform
> to find the answers.
> Thanks again to all of you who replied to me and shared their thoughts and
> experience.
> I would be happy to accept more of this.
>

I wonder if there's enough data in, say, the Origami Database (
https://oriwiki.com/) to pull out information along the lines of "how many
pieces of what type have been designed by folks who identify as a
particular gender per year?" This would only capture things
designed-and-published, but still could be could be an interesting thing to
chart over time.

Though there is no gender information in the database (at the moment) it's
not such a large community that that would be impossible to gather; and
information about where something is published and the date of the
publication is in there, I believe, or at least obtainable. Perhaps the
database maintainers could be convinced to do some interesting queries on
the existing data?

Much harder to capture is if there's any difference in *interest in folding
particular styles/types/etc. of origami* tied to any particular genders.
Maybe some kind of online survey could yield some interesting numbers?

And as a list admin I'll add a mild plea to everyone to recall that the
purpose of this list is to discuss origami, and that arguments about
gender, per se, are not appropriate here. Polite corrections or additions
to someone's content are fine, but let's please give everyone the benefit
of doubt and not assume anyone is trying to be insulting or non-inclusive.
This is an area of discourse where language and norms are rapidly evolving.
Be careful in what you say, and lenient in what you accept.

Anne


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-12 Thread Joseph Wu

On 2022-08-12 10:46, jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com wrote:

And at the CenterFold origami convention based solely on the names of attendees this year 
was 52% "female".  2019 was 54%.  Some of those are non-binary, trans etc.  
Just going by eyeballing the list of names


I'm impressed you could tell so much from a list of names.

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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-12 Thread jscully
On the question of gender (use any definition of gender here) differences in 
origami, we at Ohio Paper Folders have a somewhat unique experience in this, as 
we have taught literally tens of thousands of random people in hospitals, 
libraries, and especially at the Ohio Asian Festival, Columbus Arts festival 
and several similar events.

We pay to have a tent there and we teach the public beginner models at no 
charge.

We have seen essentially NO bias of gender, age, race, education level, income 
class, native born vs immigrant...Obviously downtown Columbus arts festival 
trends towards higher income people, but pretty broad racially.  Asian festival 
trends towards higher non-white percentage (both because of the type of 
festival and the fact that the venue borders a neighborhood that is very high 
percentage African American).  But...both no real gender bias.

And at the CenterFold origami convention based solely on the names of attendees 
this year was 52% "female".  2019 was 54%.  Some of those are non-binary, trans 
etc.  Just going by eyeballing the list of names, so hardly scientific...but 
should be close enough for jazz.

John Scully




Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-12 Thread Elina Gor via Origami
Thank you everyone who answered my request.
I tried different academic databases like Google scholar, Proquest etc. But
I didn't find what I was looking for. That's why I used this platform to
find the answers.
Thanks again to all of you who replied to me and shared their thoughts and
experience.
I would be happy to accept more of this.

Best wishes
Elina


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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread Joseph Wu

On 2022-08-11 20:37, John R. S. Mascio wrote:
I'm sorry to use such charged language on a sensitive topic.  I'm sorry 
to have brought the topic up.


Please don't be sorry. I didn't mean to pick on you. I just used your 
quote because it was concise. The original topic, and the ensuing 
discussion, was predicated on the word "gender" but was treating it as 
binary.


So, again I ask everyone who has chimed in so far: are we talking about 
biological sex or are we talking about gender? The two things are 
different.


Most of the discussion has been anecdotal, but I think Hans was right 
when he pointed out that "to make solid conclusions you need data on 
lots of people". Anecdotes are interesting, but they do not provide the 
sort of rigor required for publishing a paper, and Elina did 
specifically ask about published papers.


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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread John R. S. Mascio
I'm sorry to use such charged language on a sensitive topic.  I'm sorry 
to have brought the topic up.


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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread Mary Drews
Well done Joseph, thanks for your comment, there are way more than 2 
genders.


MaryD

On 8/11/2022 3:23 PM, Joseph Wu wrote:

Are we talking about biological sexes or about gender. Big difference.

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On Aug 11, 2022, at 14:37, John R. S. Mascio  wrote:

I've dealt with both genders


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread Joseph Wu
Are we talking about biological sexes or about gender. Big difference. 

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> On Aug 11, 2022, at 14:37, John R. S. Mascio  wrote:
> 
> I've dealt with both genders


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread John R. S. Mascio
In my experience, here in the US, young girls are big on modular boxes.  
And generally have the patience to fold 4 or 8 pieces, all mostly alike 
to assemble.


Young boys want to go for the "coolest model", whether or not it is 
within their ability.  It's hard to dissuade a boy who does not have 
either the patience or eye-hand coordination to fold a square in half, 
that they want to do one of Kamiya's eastern dragons (lots of 
pleating!), 'cause "It's cool".  Oh and want to have it in about 5 
minutes because they get bored.


In to the mid teens to adult, all bets are off.  I've dealt with both 
genders, ranging from a crane is a real challange, to willing to take 
the time to do aforementioned dragon, or equally complex models.


So, I'd say, at least in the N. Texas areas, about equally balanced 
between the genders both in interest, and skill.


JRSM



Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread paperfolder
I have been folding paper since 1978/79. When I started it was very hard to find

Origami books then. Internet was yet to come. People were surprised that a grown up 

man ( though I was 23 yrs) was folding paper; enjoying it and was happy.

In India; Origami to a large extent is still a craft activity for children. Moreso; for 

Craft Teachers, who were mostly ladies.

Most of the parents wanted their sons to learn to make an airplane and daughters

to learn to make flowers etc.

Fortunately there has been some changes in last one and half decades

Govind Kulkarni
 

Kaagaz Ka Karigar!!!

 
 

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 9:07 AM
From: "Anna via Origami" 
To: "Elina Gor" , "The Origami Mailing List" 
Subject: Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami



Elina Gor wrote:


> I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if there are any.

> Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields differences.

 

My personal observations over the years is, that there are differences that often depend on the regional culture and age of the folders. In north western societies, like most of Europe and the USA, there is often a strong gender difference, in that women tend to fold simple practical and pretty things like modular boxes, modulars, and jewelry, whereas men are more keen to fold realistic replicas of things around them, like animals or game characters. Most young folders hereby want to test out the limits of what is possible, the more complex, the better. With age paradigms often shift and people prefer nice folding sequences over difficulty, leading in turn to fold more abstract yet often more refined models, often these are simpler in appearance too. At conventions in these regions, you often stumble upon women that only fold boxes and simple modulars, upon groups of young men folding complex dragons and other figurines and upon people of all ages and sexes that fell in love with tessellations and stopped folding anything else. When I attended a convention in Colombia I was surprised to see none of those gender differences, everyone folded everything, there were men selling their self made jewelry and women giving/attending classes for complex dragons and such things. For the north western regions, I think that these gender differences are strongly anchored in the society itself. From a young age boys are encouraged to explore, to study their surroundings, to be interested in technical things, whereas girls are expected to do girly things, to act responsible and do quiet things without asking too many questions.

Origami is very diverse. There are many styles, areas and niches to choose from. Some people specialize in one of those fields, others like to do a little bit of everything.

As for work fields, I found that there are many scientists that are drawn to origami. No wonder, scientists love logical patterns and Origami provides exactly that.

 

Nice greetings from someone who likes to fold almost anything but has a slight preference towards complex things from single sheets, with nice folding sequences and ingenious colour changes.

 

Anna from Vienna, Austria








Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread Anna via Origami
Elina Gor wrote:
> I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami,
if there are any.
> Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields
differences.

My personal observations over the years is, that there are differences that
often depend on the regional culture and age of the folders. In north
western societies, like most of Europe and the USA, there is often a strong
gender difference, in that women tend to fold simple practical and pretty
things like modular boxes, modulars, and jewelry, whereas men are more keen
to fold realistic replicas of things around them, like animals or game
characters. Most young folders hereby want to test out the limits of what
is possible, the more complex, the better. With age paradigms often shift
and people prefer nice folding sequences over difficulty, leading in turn
to fold more abstract yet often more refined models, often these are
simpler in appearance too. At conventions in these regions, you often
stumble upon women that only fold boxes and simple modulars, upon groups of
young men folding complex dragons and other figurines and upon people of
all ages and sexes that fell in love with tessellations and stopped folding
anything else. When I attended a convention in Colombia I was surprised to
see none of those gender differences, everyone folded everything, there
were men selling their self made jewelry and women giving/attending classes
for complex dragons and such things. For the north western regions, I think
that these gender differences are strongly anchored in the society itself.
>From a young age boys are encouraged to explore, to study their
surroundings, to be interested in technical things, whereas girls are
expected to do girly things, to act responsible and do quiet things without
asking too many questions.
Origami is very diverse. There are many styles, areas and niches to choose
from. Some people specialize in one of those fields, others like to do a
little bit of everything.
As for work fields, I found that there are many scientists that are drawn
to origami. No wonder, scientists love logical patterns and Origami
provides exactly that.

Nice greetings from someone who likes to fold almost anything but has a
slight preference towards complex things from single sheets, with nice
folding sequences and ingenious colour changes.

Anna from Vienna, Austria


Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-11 Thread wanderer via Origami
Thank you Elina, for asking this question. 

Also, thank you to the journal search suggestions; I think I will search as 
well. I’m curious to see what research has found out…

From my own experience as a long time folder in NYC, it did seem to me that 
there were differences in what different genders folded. But that that 
difference was also related to age, imo. 

For a long time it was mainly male folders doing tessellations and complex 
animals etc. And females were more into practical objects, flowers, stars etc.  
Again, these are just my observations. 

Also - I think some of these differences are being broken down by the newer 
younger set of ppl coming into the fold. There are more well-known female 
folders now, known for tessellations and complex models etc.  I think that 
seeing women creators doing these new model types, is a great way to encourage 
young girls to do them as well. 

Btw - i don’t wish to say at all, that complex models and tessellations are 
greater (in anyway) than any other models. There are stars and modulars with 
amazing folding sequences, creative locks, and beautiful results! 

For me personally, I see a change in what I want to fold these days. When I was 
younger, I did fold more complex items. I didn’t fold dragons and insects much 
but def complex models. Now, as an older folder, I am finding myself liking 
much simpler models, and being quite specific about what I’ll learn and fold. 
Like modulars w less than 12 pcs only, or flat models of birds and flowers, or 
bird models, etc. Not sure if my changing folding inclinations (vis-a-vis age) 
is something others have experienced or not but it’s been a surprising 
revelation to me. 

I hope everyone is doing well. Staying healthy and folding happily. 

Best
Vishakha 
NYC
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On Aug 10, 2022, at 16:07, Elina Gor via Origami 
 wrote:


Hello origami fellows,
I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if 
there are any.
Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields 
differences.

Thank you,
Elina Gor




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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-10 Thread Mizu-randa
Hi all,
No articles or any proof, just an observation.
Historically in the Netherlands fine creative crafts are generally considered 
‘for girls’. In the (not even very) old days the craft lessons in school were 
knitting and embroidery for girls and carpentry for boys. Of course this was 
also the case in every day life because we didn’t know better. Over time most 
differences faded or disappeared but for some reason the creative crafts kept 
the label ‘girls’.
The strange thing is that in kindergarten Fröbel-folding was a standard subject 
for girls and boys, the teachers were even schooled in it during their studies. 
But folding wasn’t followed up in primary school back then. Nowadays there are 
a lot of teachers that use origami in school. Not so much to stimulate 
creativity but rather to enlarge the attention span and refine hand-eye 
coordination.
Anyway, thinking back to conventions and other gatherings I guess ca. 95% of 
Dutch folders are female. But ‘we’ fold everything, from practical things like 
boxes to abstract things like tesselations and everything in between.
Origards,
Miranda

Mme A.M. van de Beek
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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-10 Thread Papirfoldning.dk
A good question. There is some research related to origami and gender, see e.g. 
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=da&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=origami+gender&btnG=
At least a number of those conclude they didn't see any gender differences. I 
haven't read enough of the abstracts to see if none exist - I suspect some do, 
after all 1 out of 20 experiments can be expected to come out positive if you 
test for the 5 % significance.

The rest of this mail is my personal take and observations.

Up front part of my story talking to other people is that origami is a hobby 
for everyone, transgressing gender, age and social differences.

Laura's observations from Argentina are surely valid, but might be cultural 
differences rather than gender related. 

Here in Denmark I would say 50-50 in men and women, at least at the level where 
people are interested enough to attend workshops and talks about origami. And 
that is across all ages, 5-90.

Also, I have not been able to discern a gender bias in the choice of models, 
neither among those who passed through our society foldning.dk (perhaps 40 over 
the years) or those I've seen at workshops and talks (counting hundreds). I 
haven't made any counting, but I believe that at least no overwhelming 
differences exist.

Right now the lady next to me folds cross-pleated lamps, a highly geometric 
fold. Earlier, two other ladies folded angels. I've been folding flowers and 
leaves today, and an insect. A statistically totally insignificant sample size, 
but yet in my experience representative: no gender bias I can see. 

With children I can see some differences: When painting eyes on jumping frogs, 
small girls are more likely to make them very detailed than small boys. 
Similarly, there might be a (small) tendency in their choice of colours, but 
that might be cultural and my influence. I am not aware of gender related 
differences concerning the choice of models or genre.

There is one experiment you could do: Find a large amount of photos from 
origami convention exhibitions, note down which categories of models are folded 
by whom and the gender of the folders and designers (may or may not be the 
same), and see if there are statistical differences. 

Please note that to make solid conclusions you need data on lots of people, in 
particular if you don't control for other variables such as cultural or 
geographic bias and if the differences are not very clear.

You could also make an experiment where you let groups of people (children or 
adult) select whatever they want, and see if there is any difference there. 
Again, you might expect cultural differences overshadowing gender differences. 
Also, I guess you might get different results if you let children choose one at 
a time, or in mixed groups, or in groups of girls only or boys only. I.e. the 
experimental setup and how you control for other variables are important. 

Best luck, and please send us a write-up of what you find,
Hans


> On 10 Aug 2022, at 18.32, Kate Honeyman via Origami 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting. 
> I'm from the deep Midwest. (Nebraska), and most of the very few origami men I 
> know are about modular, complex dragons etc, and tessellations. The other 
> woman I know illustrates children's book, does animal origami at cultural 
> fairs, and the public schools teach the crane to both genders equally.
> Kate
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 8:08 AM Laura R via Origami 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Elina, 
>> 
>> I don’t know of any published article (I’d like to know) but I can tell some 
>> curious differences that I noted over time. It’s just all empirical. 
>> In Argentina, where I was born and grew up, I was always surprised to see 
>> how the majority of paperfolders are women and the most folded type of 
>> models are 2D and 3D modulars (when I say surprised, I mean because social 
>> networks and the internet offer many possibilities in the current times to 
>> get out of the usual and engage in something new and exciting.) So much so 
>> that mostly any group, meeting, etc., will teach only modulars. 
>> 
>> Modulars, it is said, are interesting because you can use them to teach math 
>> and geometry (more women than men are school teachers in Argentina.) But 
>> more than anything else, modulars like 2D stars and 3D kusudamas, are used 
>> as decorative items, for your own, for gifts, parties, etc., which is 
>> another occupancy that women engage with. 
>> 
>> Modulars, I was told, are easier to teach in virtual and in-person meetings, 
>> especially for newcomers. But still, there are quite a lot easy animals to 
>> teach, so I’m not sure this is a good reason (again, this is my only 
>> opinion.) 
>> 
>> I can count with my fingers the number of men that do origami in Argentina. 
>> I know they do like to fold animals and non-figuratives (other than 
>> modulars). Some are also good with crease patterns and complex models. A few 
>> excel in tessellations. As opposed, women in Argentina -who larg

Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-10 Thread gera...@neorigami.com
Elina Gor is asking about articles on gender diferences and origami, or other 
types of human and social differences and origami.
What awesome topics, Elina! I love that kind of subjects! To be honest, the 
vast majority of papers I've heard about are regarding origami and math, or 
engineering, or education... so no, sorry. If you do find something, would you 
please let me know? I'd love to read more on the subject.
By the way, have you tried any journal databases? If you haven't, I really 
suggest that you do. I personally recommend JSTOR and EBSCO, but there are 
others, like ProQuest and many more.  Hope you do find something! And if you 
don't, then you might actually have encountered a knowledge gap and a great 
opportunity .
I also suggest that you try:Academia: https://www.academia.edu/
ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/
One last thing, I did compile a lengthy conversation regarding women, men, and 
origami, which took place on the CfC WhatsApp group. When I compiled it, I 
asked and they authorized me to share it with others. If you are interested, I 
must ask you to email me privately and that you don't post it anywhere. My 
email address is gerardo(a)neorigami.com

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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-10 Thread Kate Honeyman via Origami
Interesting.
I'm from the deep Midwest. (Nebraska), and most of the very few origami men
I know are about modular, complex dragons etc, and tessellations. The other
woman I know illustrates children's book, does animal origami at cultural
fairs, and the public schools teach the crane to both genders equally.
Kate

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 8:08 AM Laura R via Origami <
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> Hi Elina,
>
> I don’t know of any published article (I’d like to know) but I can tell
> some curious differences that I noted over time. It’s just all empirical.
> In Argentina, where I was born and grew up, I was always surprised to see
> how the majority of paperfolders are women and the most folded type of
> models are 2D and 3D modulars (when I say surprised, I mean because social
> networks and the internet offer many possibilities in the current times to
> get out of the usual and engage in something new and exciting.) So much so
> that mostly any group, meeting, etc., will teach only modulars.
>
> Modulars, it is said, are interesting because you can use them to teach
> math and geometry (more women than men are school teachers in Argentina.)
> But more than anything else, modulars like 2D stars and 3D kusudamas, are
> used as decorative items, for your own, for gifts, parties, etc., which is
> another occupancy that women engage with.
>
> Modulars, I was told, are easier to teach in virtual and in-person
> meetings, especially for newcomers. But still, there are quite a lot easy
> animals to teach, so I’m not sure this is a good reason (again, this is my
> only opinion.)
>
> I can count with my fingers the number of men that do origami in
> Argentina. I know they do like to fold animals and non-figuratives (other
> than modulars). Some are also good with crease patterns and complex models.
> A few excel in tessellations. As opposed, women in Argentina -who largely
> surpass the number of men- I think only a few are very good with
> tessellations (not sure about their skills with complex animals), and I
> know of one or two that can draw diagrams.
>
> Conclusion: it’s as if “animals” are a boy's thing and “modulars, stars
> and flowers” a girls thing.
>
> Again, I can be biased in my observation. Perhaps others can follow-up in
> my observations.
>
> Good luck with your research
> Laura Rozenberg
>
>
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> Hello origami fellows,
> I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if
> there are any.
> Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields
> differences.
>
> Thank you,
> Elina Gor
>
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Re: [Origami] Research on gender differences in origami

2022-08-10 Thread Laura R via Origami
Hi Elina, 

I don’t know of any published article (I’d like to know) but I can tell some 
curious differences that I noted over time. It’s just all empirical. 
In Argentina, where I was born and grew up, I was always surprised to see how 
the majority of paperfolders are women and the most folded type of models are 
2D and 3D modulars (when I say surprised, I mean because social networks and 
the internet offer many possibilities in the current times to get out of the 
usual and engage in something new and exciting.) So much so that mostly any 
group, meeting, etc., will teach only modulars. 

Modulars, it is said, are interesting because you can use them to teach math 
and geometry (more women than men are school teachers in Argentina.) But more 
than anything else, modulars like 2D stars and 3D kusudamas, are used as 
decorative items, for your own, for gifts, parties, etc., which is another 
occupancy that women engage with. 

Modulars, I was told, are easier to teach in virtual and in-person meetings, 
especially for newcomers. But still, there are quite a lot easy animals to 
teach, so I’m not sure this is a good reason (again, this is my only opinion.) 

I can count with my fingers the number of men that do origami in Argentina. I 
know they do like to fold animals and non-figuratives (other than modulars). 
Some are also good with crease patterns and complex models. A few excel in 
tessellations. As opposed, women in Argentina -who largely surpass the number 
of men- I think only a few are very good with tessellations (not sure about 
their skills with complex animals), and I know of one or two that can draw 
diagrams.

Conclusion: it’s as if “animals” are a boy's thing and “modulars, stars and 
flowers” a girls thing.

Again, I can be biased in my observation. Perhaps others can follow-up in my 
observations. 

Good luck with your research 
Laura Rozenberg


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> Hello origami fellows,
> I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if 
> there are any.
> Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields 
> differences.
> 
> Thank you,
> Elina Gor
> 
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2022-08-10 Thread Elina Gor via Origami
Hello origami fellows,
I'm looking for published articles about gender differences in origami, if
there are any.
Other subjects of interest are age differences, education and work fields
differences.

Thank you,
Elina Gor




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